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Post by josephdphillips on Mar 1, 2006 9:54:12 GMT -6
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Post by ima on Mar 1, 2006 10:37:46 GMT -6
Welcome to the board, Ima! I think that you should use your influence to get him to commit suicide or at the very least drop his appeals. I don't mean that to be mean, but it would be the best thing to do.[/quote]
Why thankyou for the welcome. Since I no longer speak to, write to or hear from my husbnd I wouldn't be able to do so. The reason I don't have any contact is because I had no influence over him. I couldn't even get him to admit he was guilty.
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Post by nydesha logged out on Mar 1, 2006 11:09:57 GMT -6
I see you don't want to understand. You really need some professional help Joe. Or maybe you need another wife. You need a wife who gives you more satisfaction in every way. You seem to be very frustrated. You have to push up your self-esteem judging unknown people. Or maybe you need more action in your life. You miss anything. I don't know what. You need peace. Try yoga! Murderers as unknown people....LOL!! ;D You really are a hoot! OK, so you "know" murderers. Good for you. Do you swallow? Unknown people such as Ima. Start with thinking! The lady that you treat like *crap*. You don't even know her. |
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Post by josephdphillips on Mar 1, 2006 11:42:14 GMT -6
Unknown people such as Ima. Start with thinking! The lady that you treat like *crap*. You don't even know her. Murderers/murdererphiles -- hard for me to keep 'em straight. I know all I need to know about "Ima," whoever s/he/it is. |
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Post by pk on Mar 1, 2006 11:59:38 GMT -6
Joseph and Bigmama, thank you both for the invitation to join the board. I've considered joining several times, especially since Charlene closed most areas to non members. I used to post here often as a guest, for some reason the only time I can post now is when another post is from a guest, the reply button doesn't show up for me when a new thread is posted from a member.
I would have to use my name to join, it's on my E mail. If anyone disclosed who and where I am, my family would be in serious danger. The murderer and his two brothers that are also in prison for murder, blame the victims and our families for being caught. Perps never forgive the victims. One of his brothers will be on parole soon, his victims life was only worth seven years to the judge. Additionally, he has around fifty family members, that are just as dangerous as he is.
Like all the members of my group, I read here when I have time. I remember JBS, Rick, Glenn, Malkin (sp?) Donnie, DEE, and many of the other pros, from two years ago when I posted often. I was out of the country at that time, and knew the perp and his supporters couldn't reach me, I'm home now. My family will be back in the next few months and I'm trying to brace myself for the flood of emotions that will accompany their return, it's difficult. When you're sure you have everything under control you are knocked to your knees by the unawares. When unpacking the antiques left in storage, the men uncrated the rocking chair I used when the children were born. I had planned to have that chair refinished one day because she would crawl up through the arm of it and scrap her two little teeth on the arm. I knew those scraps were there and was prepared to see them. I wasn't prepared to see the perfect little oval bites under the arm of the chair from her eight tiny teeth. It destroyed me. They call us MVS's, in my case that's not true. I didn't survive it, I'm just walking around trying to go on.
There are so many people on this board that tell us to move on, get help and get over it. Short of a frontal lobotomy, I don't know how anyone can erase what's in the memory, it can't be medicated away. I did have one honest Dr. tell me that he couldn't do anything for a broken heart. The victims group helps more than anything, they all understand. This board full of pros also helps me. When I have days where I think no one cares about the victims, that they are forgotten statistics, I read here and know that's not true. Thank you all for that.
Joseph, I've considered offering to pay the airfare for Skyloom and Felix to California, as well as the black shoes and clothes, so they can catch the next Heavens Gate comet. Felix wouldn't even need the required surgery, you've already prepared him for that many times as evidenced by his constant high pitched whines on this board. I decided you wouldn't appreciate them being in your state, since they are in orbit anyway.
It's unfortunate when people use this board to get their psychotic fix for the day, and for entertainment. I must end this post by saying that every time you hammer them with the truth Joseph, we all cheer you on. Thank You again for standing up for the victims and our loved ones.
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Post by Rev. Agave on Mar 1, 2006 12:03:40 GMT -6
Great questions. Wrong forum. You seem to have us confused with people who like murderers. She needs to go over to the CCRAP or PTO boards and have a group pity party. They'd all have their handkerchiefs out before the end of her first post. Actually, being that she is a woman who admits to having been scammed by a DR inmate, she would probably get banned over there quicker than Spur or Joseph would! |
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Post by josephdphillips on Mar 1, 2006 12:15:59 GMT -6
It's unfortunate when people use this board to get their psychotic fix for the day, and for entertainment. I must end this post by saying that every time you hammer them with the truth Joseph, we all cheer you on. Thank You again for standing up for the victims and our loved ones. I'm sorry to hear of your anguish, PK. Stay strong and keep in touch. Let us know what is going on with these bastards. Thanks again for the kind words. I'll keep on keepin' on. A little levity is necessary here once in a while. Capital punishment can be a very dreary subject, but I strongly believe in its rectitude, and with the immorality of murder and murderers. Together, we can make a difference and have an impact. People vote. Influential people may read this board. A change will eventually come. |
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Post by josephdphillips on Mar 1, 2006 12:20:01 GMT -6
I've considered offering to pay the airfare for Skyloom and Felix to California, as well as the black shoes and clothes, so they can catch the next Heavens Gate comet. Felix wouldn't even need the required surgery, you've already prepared him for that many times as evidenced by his constant high pitched whines on this board. Gosh, what did California ever do to you?  Seriously, we have murdererphiles aplenty here. Look at all the chickenheads who flocked to San Quentin last December to fellate Tookie Williams. Thankfully, these types aren't very influential here. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2006 12:55:30 GMT -6
Joseph and Bigmama, thank you both for the invitation to join the board. I've considered joining several times, especially since Charlene closed most areas to non members. I used to post here often as a guest, for some reason the only time I can post now is when another post is from a guest, the reply button doesn't show up for me when a new thread is posted from a member. I would have to use my name to join, it's on my E mail. If anyone disclosed who and where I am, my family would be in serious danger. The murderer and his two brothers that are also in prison for murder, blame the victims and our families for being caught. Perps never forgive the victims. One of his brothers will be on parole soon, his victims life was only worth seven years to the judge. Additionally, he has around fifty family members, that are just as dangerous as he is. Like all the members of my group, I read here when I have time. I remember JBS, Rick, Glenn, Malkin (sp?) Donnie, DEE, and many of the other pros, from two years ago when I posted often. I was out of the country at that time, and knew the perp and his supporters couldn't reach me, I'm home now. My family will be back in the next few months and I'm trying to brace myself for the flood of emotions that will accompany their return, it's difficult. When you're sure you have everything under control you are knocked to your knees by the unawares. When unpacking the antiques left in storage, the men uncrated the rocking chair I used when the children were born. I had planned to have that chair refinished one day because she would crawl up through the arm of it and scrap her two little teeth on the arm. I knew those scraps were there and was prepared to see them. I wasn't prepared to see the perfect little oval bites under the arm of the chair from her eight tiny teeth. It destroyed me. They call us MVS's, in my case that's not true. I didn't survive it, I'm just walking around trying to go on. There are so many people on this board that tell us to move on, get help and get over it. Short of a frontal lobotomy, I don't know how anyone can erase what's in the memory, it can't be medicated away. I did have one honest Dr. tell me that he couldn't do anything for a broken heart. The victims group helps more than anything, they all understand. This board full of pros also helps me. When I have days where I think no one cares about the victims, that they are forgotten statistics, I read here and know that's not true. Thank you all for that. Joseph, I've considered offering to pay the airfare for Skyloom and Felix to California, as well as the black shoes and clothes, so they can catch the next Heavens Gate comet. Felix wouldn't even need the required surgery, you've already prepared him for that many times as evidenced by his constant high pitched whines on this board. I decided you wouldn't appreciate them being in your state, since they are in orbit anyway. It's unfortunate when people use this board to get their psychotic fix for the day, and for entertainment. I must end this post by saying that every time you hammer them with the truth Joseph, we all cheer you on. Thank You again for standing up for the victims and our loved ones. PK, it never seems enough to say it, but even I have trouble thinking of anything else to say at times - I am so sorry, I am so sorry, I am so sorry you have to live with this pain you never should have had to. Please don't be afraid to register and post if you want to, your e-mail has to be entered for you to join, but I believe it can be hidden (like mine is) so no one can see or use your e-mail but Charlene and the other moderators. But I hope you do whatever you think is best for you whatever the reason. Bless you! |
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Post by bigmama on Mar 1, 2006 15:24:26 GMT -6
PK, my heart breaks for you... Reading about your pain at seeing those little teeth marks really hit me. I'm so sorry for everything you now live with, including the continuing worry about what else the bastards might be able to do to you and your family.
I don't want to pressure you to join (I totally agree with JBS that you should do what you think best) but another thought is that maybe you can open a new email account with hotmail or yahoo, without your name, and use that to register? In any event, I'm glad you made your voice heard, if only temporarily. May God bless you.
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Post by bigmama on Mar 1, 2006 15:25:32 GMT -6
I really used to like Madonna so much better before she got all full of herself. She positively self-effacing compared to Garth Brooks. It's all a matter of perspective. I've seen Madonna's latest video. Good lord, she could give eyesight to the blind. Oh my! I have no idea how Garth Brooks is so I'll take your word for it. |
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Post by pk on Mar 2, 2006 9:31:34 GMT -6
JBS, thank you...I know that you understand what I'm going through, I wish you didn't. When I'm stronger and my family is home I will join this board. Her birthday is next week, it's a hard time of the year for me. I'm trying to stay busy and I have several projects going at the same time.
Today I'm going to finish the painting on my sisters ceiling, it's a spiral of angels headed towards heaven. It's been a month long project, twenty feet in the air and her talking all the time.
Yesterday I took a friend to lunch and the zoo. It was a beautiful day, got her out of the house, and avoided her emotional crash for another day.
I try to start each day by counting the many blessings I have in my life, so many, and that helps. But...there's always the BUT, I miss her and I can't stop the flashbacks, the nightmares and the rage I feel for the savage that took her life.
Take care JBS, I think of you and the others in our position often.
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Post by pk on Mar 2, 2006 10:22:26 GMT -6
Joseph, Thank you for understanding. I agree that change is on the way, I just wish it was faster and more severe. I agree with you about all murderers deserving the DP. I was glad when Tookie was executed, that's the way the old Tookie should crumble, and it did! None of the protesters said one word about the victims he was charged with murdering, or about the gang related murders he was responsible for as well. He started all conversations by saying " I was the founder of the crips, hoover 107 " he was proud of that, it defined who and what he was. Not one mention of all the lives wasted by him because of drugs and thugs. I laughed when the anti's said there would be a riot at his funeral. I'm sure most of his friends are either dead, in prison or have warrants out for their arrest, same as his son.
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Son of Crips founder sought in Fontana
03:17 PM PST on Tuesday, November 15, 2005
By LISA B. McPHERON / The Press-Enterprise
The son of Crips founder and death-row inmate Stanley Tookie Williams is wanted by Fontana police in the abduction and sexual assault of a 13-year-old girl.
Lafayette Jones, 36, told the girl, who is an acquaintance, that he wanted to take her to Ontario Mills Mall and buy her new shoes, said Fontana Sgt. William Megenney.
But once they got into his car, Jones put a handgun to her head and made her perform sex acts and drink alcohol, Megenney said.
"She knew him and she had confidence," she would be safe with him, Megenney said.
Jones, who is considered armed and dangerous, took the Fontana girl at about 5 p.m. Saturday. She broke away from him at about 11 p.m. at the Ontario Mills Mall and sought help, Megenney said.
During those six hours, Jones is suspected of committing a variety of sex crimes against the girl in his car, Megenney said.
Fontana police suspect Jones could be in the Los Angeles area. He has had prior sex crime convictions, Megenney said.
Williams, known mostly by his middle name Tookie, is slated to be executed Dec. 13 for four murders in 1979. Williams' planned execution has drawn anti-death penalty protests, including one held in Riverside in October.
Since convicted, Williams has written several children's books about the negative side of gangs. In 2004, Jamie Foxx starred in a movie about Williams.
Anyone with information about Jones' whereabouts is asked to contact the Fontana Police Department, (909) 350-7720, or another law enforcement agency.
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It's sickening to watch people fight for the life of a murderer. I'm glad it doesn't work most of the time.
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Post by pk on Mar 2, 2006 10:24:53 GMT -6
Bigmama, Thanks for your kind words, it helps.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2006 10:40:01 GMT -6
JBS, thank you...I know that you understand what I'm going through, I wish you didn't. When I'm stronger and my family is home I will join this board. Her birthday is next week, it's a hard time of the year for me. I'm trying to stay busy and I have several projects going at the same time. Today I'm going to finish the painting on my sisters ceiling, it's a spiral of angels headed towards heaven. It's been a month long project, twenty feet in the air and her talking all the time. Yesterday I took a friend to lunch and the zoo. It was a beautiful day, got her out of the house, and avoided her emotional crash for another day. I try to start each day by counting the many blessings I have in my life, so many, and that helps. But...there's always the BUT, I miss her and I can't stop the flashbacks, the nightmares and the rage I feel for the savage that took her life. Take care JBS, I think of you and the others in our position often. One of the hardest times of year for me too, as for so many of us. It sounds like you are approaching it in a way that helps YOU. That is the only thing we can do. A painter (how I wish I could!) that is such a gift to have such talent! And angels - one of my favorite subjects needless to say. Every Christmas ornament I've gotten for years now has been an angel. We seek our moments of peace where we must. You will be in my prayers, PK!!!!  |
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Post by josephdphillips on Mar 2, 2006 11:00:59 GMT -6
Joseph, Thank you for understanding. I agree that change is on the way, I just wish it was faster and more severe. I agree with you about all murderers deserving the DP. I was glad when Tookie was executed, that's the way the old Tookie should crumble, and it did! None of the protesters said one word about the victims he was charged with murdering, or about the gang related murders he was responsible for as well. He started all conversations by saying " I was the founder of the crips, hoover 107 " he was proud of that, it defined who and what he was. Not one mention of all the lives wasted by him because of drugs and thugs. I laughed when the anti's said there would be a riot at his funeral. I'm sure most of his friends are either dead, in prison or have warrants out for their arrest, same as his son. There were no riots because even most black people support capital punishment in California. Tookie Williams was not a "product of his environment." He didn't kill four people in cold blood for their money, or to feed his children. He killed four people who never meant anyone harm for the sole purpose of proving to his peers that he could do it and not lose sleep over it. If I knew where this bastard's ashes were scattered, I'd find the place and urinate on it, and I'd do it every December 13th, to prove my own point. No redemption for murderers. No forgiveness. Ever. Period. |
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Post by jennaleigh27 on Mar 3, 2006 9:40:42 GMT -6
I think that was very brave of you to share your story. As an anti I agree with you about death not being the answer. Having said that, though, I unlike most anti's I've come I've discussed this with, believe in justice being served.
I started posting on the ccadp board, but quickly discovered their judgment is clearly tainted. It is appalling to me to see most anti's, in cases where the inmate is admittingly guilty, discard that fact. They tend not to focus on the issue at hand which is the DP itself. Rather, they want to complain about how the inmate is being treated in prison, how solitary confinement is 'cruel and inhumane', how being shackled during visitation is humiliating and unnecessary, and the all time famous 'he was there, but he didn't pull the trigger!' That is complete and utter crap.
I'm anti dp, not anti justice. In my opinion, the inmate getting only one hour a day to see the sun shine is too much to me if the person is, in fact, guilty. As far as being humiliated during visitation, good! That's nothing compared to what his victims and their families suffered. Solitary confinement, nothing cruel and inhumane about that. If they didn't want a cell smaller than most peoples bathroom, they should have considered that before committing the crime. I don't advocate, promotoe or condone unlawful punishment, but solitary confinement in these cases is a sanction, and that I completely support.
Then you have the anti's that have the misconception that people are on in prison for the reasons of protecting the public and that murders can be rehabilitated. Wrong. There are many reasons under the law for imprisonment, one being PUNISHMENT. My stand on rehabilitation is this; I don't care even if they could be rehabilitated, if you murdered someone in cold blood you should sit the rest of your life in a lonely, dark cell with your conscience tormenting you every day as to why you committed such a heinous and immoral act.
While I understand every life is as important as the next I just think anti's should focus on people such as Cory Maye who was sentenced to death for killing an officer in self-defense, trying to protect himself and his child. But, no, they seem to get this immoral high from writing to an obviously guilty murderer. I think it's sickening and it gives the rest of us anti's a bad name. They should get their priorities straight.
I wish you much luck and hope the very best for you.
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Post by rain on Mar 3, 2006 9:50:11 GMT -6
I think that was very brave of you to share your story. As an anti I agree with you about death not being the answer. Having said that, though, I unlike most anti's I've come I've discussed this with, believe in justice being served. I started posting on the ccadp board, but quickly discovered their judgment is clearly tainted. It is appalling to me to see most anti's, in cases where the inmate is admittingly guilty, discard that fact. They tend not to focus on the issue at hand which is the DP itself. Rather, they want to complain about how the inmate is being treated in prison, how solitary confinement is 'cruel and inhumane', how being shackled during visitation is humiliating and unnecessary, and the all time famous 'he was there, but he didn't pull the trigger!' That is complete and utter crap. I'm anti dp, not anti justice. In my opinion, the inmate getting only one hour a day to see the sun shine is too much to me if the person is, in fact, guilty. As far as being humiliated during visitation, good! That's nothing compared to what his victims and their families suffered. Solitary confinement, nothing cruel and inhumane about that. If they didn't want a cell smaller than most peoples bathroom, they should have considered that before committing the crime. I don't advocate, promotoe or condone unlawful punishment, but solitary confinement in these cases is a sanction, and that I completely support. Then you have the anti's that have the misconception that people are on in prison for the reasons of protecting the public and that murders can be rehabilitated. Wrong. There are many reasons under the law for imprisonment, one being PUNISHMENT. My stand on rehabilitation is this; I don't care even if they could be rehabilitated, if you murdered someone in cold blood you should sit the rest of your life in a lonely, dark cell with your conscience tormenting you every day as to why you committed such a heinous and immoral act. While I understand every life is as important as the next I just think anti's should focus on people such as Cory Maye who was sentenced to death for killing an officer in self-defense, trying to protect himself and his child. But, no, they seem to get this immoral high from writing to an obviously guilty murderer. I think it's sickening and it gives the rest of us anti's a bad name. They should get their priorities straight. I wish you much luck and hope the very best for you. jennaleigh27 - Nice post. Join the board!!! |
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Post by jennaleigh27 on Mar 3, 2006 10:01:21 GMT -6
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Post by josephdphillips on Mar 3, 2006 10:47:10 GMT -6
I think that was very brave of you to share your story. As an anti I agree with you about death not being the answer. Having said that, though, I unlike most anti's I've come I've discussed this with, believe in justice being served. This is a fine essay, Jennaleigh27. I hope your membership arrives soon, and that you'll post often. |
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Post by pk on Mar 3, 2006 11:06:12 GMT -6
JBS, Thank you again. You and the other MVS's remain in my prayers as well.
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Post by pk on Mar 3, 2006 11:12:55 GMT -6
Joseph, What you said about Tookie is so true. I wonder why so many others won't admit that. I agree with everything you said about him. That coward said he found God, yet he never confessed...go figure. He wasn't trying to save his soul, he was trying to save his sorry butt!
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Post by ima on Mar 3, 2006 11:17:29 GMT -6
I think that was very brave of you to share your story. As an anti I agree with you about death not being the answer. Having said that, though, I unlike most anti's I've come I've discussed this with, believe in justice being served. I started posting on the ccadp board, but quickly discovered their judgment is clearly tainted. It is appalling to me to see most anti's, in cases where the inmate is admittingly guilty, discard that fact. They tend not to focus on the issue at hand which is the DP itself. Rather, they want to complain about how the inmate is being treated in prison, how solitary confinement is 'cruel and inhumane', how being shackled during visitation is humiliating and unnecessary, and the all time famous 'he was there, but he didn't pull the trigger!' That is complete and utter crap. I'm anti dp, not anti justice. In my opinion, the inmate getting only one hour a day to see the sun shine is too much to me if the person is, in fact, guilty. As far as being humiliated during visitation, good! That's nothing compared to what his victims and their families suffered. Solitary confinement, nothing cruel and inhumane about that. If they didn't want a cell smaller than most peoples bathroom, they should have considered that before committing the crime. I don't advocate, promotoe or condone unlawful punishment, but solitary confinement in these cases is a sanction, and that I completely support. Then you have the anti's that have the misconception that people are on in prison for the reasons of protecting the public and that murders can be rehabilitated. Wrong. There are many reasons under the law for imprisonment, one being PUNISHMENT. My stand on rehabilitation is this; I don't care even if they could be rehabilitated, if you murdered someone in cold blood you should sit the rest of your life in a lonely, dark cell with your conscience tormenting you every day as to why you committed such a heinous and immoral act. While I understand every life is as important as the next I just think anti's should focus on people such as Cory Maye who was sentenced to death for killing an officer in self-defense, trying to protect himself and his child. But, no, they seem to get this immoral high from writing to an obviously guilty murderer. I think it's sickening and it gives the rest of us anti's a bad name. They should get their priorities straight. I wish you much luck and hope the very best for you. I couldn't agree with you more! Even when I was going to visit my husband we would argue when he tried to tell me about the conditions in prison on DR. I used to tell him the same things you are saying. Why should these people get a candy bar, a visit, a phone call? Yes the conditions would be bad for someone who is innocent but 99.9999% aren't. So they do not deserve to any rights in my books. |
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Post by jennaleigh27 on Mar 3, 2006 12:00:12 GMT -6
Thanks guys for the positive feedback. I was skeptical that I might get the cold shoulder for being an anti, but the majority of posts I've read here everyone seems to discuss issues, rather than the 'my way or no way' logic the average anti tends to display.
Ima, I have a question for you if you don't mind. Reading your posts you speak as though you're still married to this guy. If so, why? I'm just curious because you spoke of how you were duped into believing one of many DR con stories. It angers me to know that people like your husband (with all due respect to you) is still able, to an extent, control and deceive innocent victims even behind bars. Your story is definitely a sad one and I just wish more anti dp women would take stories like yours serious.
I was watching an investigative show a couple weeks ago and there was this DR inmate at the Riverbend prison in Tennessee who murdered his four children. He stated that he misses his children sometimes, but that he couldn't say that he had any remorse.
I find that inconceivable. And the sad part of that is the fact that if he listed a penpal website, some anti dp woman would write to him, all while making excuses for his actions from everything like how horrible his upbringing was to he was under the influence of drugs at the time of the murders. None of which even remotely excuses or justifies the crime.
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Post by josephdphillips on Mar 3, 2006 12:03:42 GMT -6
Joseph, What you said about Tookie is so true. I wonder why so many others won't admit that. I agree with everything you said about him. That coward said he found God, yet he never confessed...go figure. He wasn't trying to save his soul, he was trying to save his sorry butt! Thanks, PK. The time to worry about your salvation is before you murder, not afterwards. Any god that would forgive a murderer isn't worthy of being worshiped, if you ask me. If you can kill someone in cold blood and be redeemed with "Sorry. I did a bad thing, You're the man," we might as well chuck it, because the temporal life isn't worth anything. As a people, we need to reward moral restraint and punish, as harshly as possible, those who have none. To do any less is to spit on the graves of those who did not deserve to die. And yes, that includes non-murderers we all despise, like child molesters, rapists and gangbangers. |
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Post by Ben on Mar 6, 2006 12:23:45 GMT -6
If you see some equivalency in the above careers and professions versus a death row inmate, I really don't feel the need to explain it to you, because your foothold on reality is so tenuous as to make it futile. I agree with you that I wouldn't look for a partner on DR either, but ther're some people that do. the human brain is complex, my friend Bet yours isn't very complex. You seem either VERy young or very limited in the brains department to me. |
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Post by Donnie on Mar 11, 2006 16:37:04 GMT -6
I was skeptical that I might get the cold shoulder for being an anti, but the majority of posts I've read here everyone seems to discuss issues, rather than the 'my way or no way' logic the average anti tends to display. Just please don't start flying with the loon (Skyloom). |
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Post by Donnie on Mar 11, 2006 16:54:46 GMT -6
Additionally, he has around fifty family members, that are just as dangerous as he is. Ah yes, those would be like the family members that we are supposed to feel sorry for when a murderer gets executed. I don't know what would happen to me or what I would do if a murderer caused me to become an MVS. That is what impells me to speak for those who cannot speak. You are all welcome for whatever meager help I can give. But I have to face the fact that I, as a person active against the DP, gave murders hope and comfort for many years. That is a debt to society that I will never be able to repay. So as long as their are things that I can do in recompense, I will, now that I have faced, in a small way, the pain and suffering that I helped promote. Those of us who once worked for the evil one can learn and move toward redemption, but it is a journey that never ends. |
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