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Post by whitediamonds on Dec 27, 2014 12:47:13 GMT -6
Murder has become so common place, every day happening all over the world. The only one's protected & treated with dignity is" we all know who by now. I agree with Bernard, use the n word & all hell breaks loose. Scream rape decades later to the public it is automatically gullty as charged no facts needed. Throw bacon at the police & call them pigs. Burn the place down. Kill two police officers in NY. A psycho in another country treatening the U.S censoring what movie's we can watch. I went to see the movie if for no other reason than to say f-u.
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Post by whitediamonds on Dec 7, 2014 12:49:46 GMT -6
Since he became religious "while inside"only took 8 mins for that exorcism.
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Post by whitediamonds on Dec 3, 2014 19:54:23 GMT -6
Very unfortunate people can use mental illness as an excuse to not pay for there crime.. Well, at least this one did not just become mentally ill when the date is near. To say he does not understand why he is being executed now all of a sudden must mean he is not mentally ill, he is criminally insane.
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Post by whitediamonds on Dec 3, 2014 12:33:46 GMT -6
I think this guy is as good as dead, they want to pull a rabbit out of a hat quick smart.. Nope, put on hold again. Federal Appeals Court asking TX to put on hold, until they review .
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Post by whitediamonds on Dec 3, 2014 12:07:00 GMT -6
I think this guy is as good as dead, they want to pull a rabbit out of a hat quick smart.. Nope, put on hold again.
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 25, 2014 17:18:48 GMT -6
Court of criminal appeals 11/25/14 voted agains't Panetti today.
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 24, 2014 9:17:46 GMT -6
The judge denied Panetti's appeal, it's now being sent to the Court of Criminal appeals.
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 20, 2014 18:48:38 GMT -6
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 20, 2014 14:31:47 GMT -6
I am with you, petiton signed.
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 17, 2014 14:52:10 GMT -6
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 17, 2014 9:57:03 GMT -6
Your point is valid as an example of society's hypocrisy but not as an ad-hominem criticism of myself as a physician nor my profession. I do not take part in any termination of pregnancy proceedings despite my role as a community physician placing me in a front line role. I also debate the pros and cons of ToP with my colleagues both face to face and online.
The whole point of my post was that as a person of naturally conservative opinions and politics, the Death Penalty stretches my ethical stance to its limits. This thread is entitled "A Plea for Change - (American) Justice. " -my parentheses; since the issue is far from solely American. The reason after much thought about this that I concluded I could not agree with the idea Capital punishment, is that I don't believe we are good enough as societies to get it right all the time. If we get it wrong once, we are cheapening the very lives we seek to defend and are just as culpable as the murderer who went free.
Lee Rigby Murder is the closest much of the UK has come in many years to calling for the reinstatement of capital punishment. These individuals were videoed in the street hacking an unarmed serviceman to death. How could there be any argument against executing these two? My own thoughts were that if you execute one, you have to execute them all and we know in that case we will inevitably execute innocents.
Regards,
Rob.
I was not critical personally of you, I am confused on why "your" in the profession you are, your not irrate (protesting) that the " Oath" is thrown out the window for abortions on "demand", yet at the same time anti's use the Oath to say the medical profession is not to be involved in DP's. That just seems it should be your first start before concerns of the "US" having a DP. "Your thoughts are if you execute one , you have to execute them all & we know in that case we will inevitabley execute innocents? Like abortion we are aborting innocent "on demand". Where as abortion to save a mothers life, or due to rape, etc are serious rational reasons for an abortion which still is taking a innocent life (violently. There are always exceptions, reality of life. With the DP we do not execute all murderers, & we never will. DP" no reason to do away with the DP anymore than totally do away with abortions. Society speaks volumes it's ok we will tolerate abortion "on demand" though. Yet, do not execute those who are raping & murdering our children/babies even. I am greatful we have a DP. Also it is insanity when someone incarcerated for murder (not on DR), murder's again inside those walls gets another 20 yrs or so added to their sentence.
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 16, 2014 19:39:06 GMT -6
Very much so! my career is devoted to the preservation of life and relief of suffering. It's what I do. I'm not entirely sure of the point you're getting at there?" Preservation of life & relief of the suffering, that is what you do. If that is what you do, then go after the medical field on all the abortions going on, for thousands of years the medical wislom has known abortion is a barbaric act of violence the kills innocent human beings. Human embryos & fetus are nothing less than tiny human beings. That is your profession seems all those innocents should be of your first & foremost concern. Abortions rip off arms & heads.
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 16, 2014 14:00:21 GMT -6
As a devotee of the principle of the sanctity of life quote] Are you really?
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 13, 2014 18:58:12 GMT -6
He owed up like a man. His parents did good for him.
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 13, 2014 16:23:37 GMT -6
I have to agree, be careful what you wish for. "I for one" certainly do not want to be like China's system of justice !!1
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 13, 2014 11:04:42 GMT -6
I admire Banks family, they appear to be very good people. They are supporting their son in the right way.
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 13, 2014 10:47:22 GMT -6
He didn't actually know someone had been caught. He had left the country shortly after the crime. This happened in the 1970s when just like the states sentences for homicide were ridicuously lenient. The standard penalty for murder here is 20 years for an adult (aggravating circumstances increase, mitigating circumstances decrease). The man had to be sentence under the laws in place in the 1970s as I am aware the killer serves his time and never came to the attention of the police again. Also, confessions for crimes where the criminal was unlikely to be detected otherwise do count as a substantial mitigating circumstance as it does show remorse. I don't know he may never have come to the attention" of the police again, but 17 yrs free after a murder by him & leaving the country right after? Seems the victims " life" was cheap & forgotten. Sad
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 12, 2014 11:07:57 GMT -6
I've explained this over and over, and you still don't get it. However the victim was killed by a stranger who had broken into her home. He confessed 17 years later and served 8 years www.miscarriagesofjustice.com.au/pohl.htmlI would have made his sentence 35 yrs not 8. He obviously did not have any "real" remorse (BS) for either the murder victim or for knowing an innocent man was incarcerated for his crime.
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 9, 2014 15:18:26 GMT -6
I have no ill feelings towards Nils, I believe he is a man of honor too. LOL I thought the tea & knitting on the veranda was just a funny tongue in cheek, not mean't hateful at all. I have a weird sense of humor that comes out at times. ..
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 8, 2014 10:14:06 GMT -6
does YOUR country/system/citizens NOT execute justice as it wishes? a bit arrogant and hypocritical then to tell us or others how to do it don't you think? in fact, how does YOUR country define justice and by what authority do they define it? maybe our idea of justice is better and YOU guys are fubar.
Though I do agree change is needed with some of our laws & sentencing, I do NOT agree this has any merit towards NOT having a DP at all. You handle your justice in Sweden, as far as the U.S goes on the DP" go back to your cloistered world of crumpets & tea @ 4 & knitting on the veranda . Sorry we shock your delicate sensibilities. Best Wishes WD. U.S. ]Hello ltdc and Whitediamond Best Euro wishes. Nils. By the way, I noticed you accidently left out in quoting me" " Best Wishes WD. U.S. leaving out the A... Not U.S , but U.S.A " America" !!!
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 8, 2014 7:51:22 GMT -6
The Days of official executions are probably a chapter that will never be reinstated... However, whom may possess any total knowledge of what the future holds?; Especially with the world getting more violent. [/p] [/quote] Hello. I think you are mistaken. The world is getting less and less violent over time. Not more violent. Best. Nils. [/quote] If your correct & I am mistaken, than why is that? What has made it less violent in regards to terrorist, criminals murdering?
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 8, 2014 7:38:25 GMT -6
does YOUR country/system/citizens NOT execute justice as it wishes? a bit arrogant and hypocritical then to tell us or others how to do it don't you think? in fact, how does YOUR country define justice and by what authority do they define it? maybe our idea of justice is better and YOU guys are fubar.
Though I do agree change is needed with some of our laws & sentencing, I do NOT agree this has any merit towards NOT having a DP at all. You handle your justice in Sweden, as far as the U.S goes on the DP" go back to your cloistered world of crumpets & tea @ 4 & knitting on the veranda . Sorry we shock your delicate sensibilities. Best Wishes WD. U.S. ]Hello ltdc and Whitediamond Have I ever said Swedish justice is near to Perfect? No i have not. And it is not. But thats not the subject of this board, let me remind you. The subject of this board is The DP. And plea bargains do present difficult problems. It is argued that capital punishment is a bargaining chip prosecutors need in order to secure life without parole pleas. And it is obvious that this tactic reveals profound ethical dilemmas as the threat of a death sentence can be used coercively, only increasing the risk of wrongful convictions. This is what I highlighted from the article in The Economist: Prosecutors hold all the cards. If a defence lawyer offers a witness $100 for a false alibi, he is guilty of bribery. But if a prosecutor offers a co-operating witness something far more valuable—the chance to avoid several years in a cell—that is just fine. With so much at stake, snitches sometimes tell prosecutors what they want to hear. One study found that nearly half of the cases in which people have been wrongfully sentenced to death hinged on false testimony by informants, typically criminals who were rewarded with lighter punishments. Isnt this an important problem? Best Euro wishes. Nils. I agree with what is highlighted is not good or working for the good. Still the DP should always remain on the table & used when qualifies..
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 7, 2014 10:48:17 GMT -6
Though I do agree change is needed with some of our laws & sentencing, I do NOT agree this has any merit towards NOT having a DP at all. You handle your justice in Sweden, as far as the U.S goes on the DP" go back to your cloistered world of crumpets & tea @ 4 & knitting on the veranda . Sorry we shock your delicate sensibilities. Best Wishes WD. U.S.A
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 3, 2014 11:16:21 GMT -6
I agree with this, change is needed as article states.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 29, 2014 10:01:26 GMT -6
Seems to me his defense attorney did not fail him miserably & were competent afterall. Missing a deadline that prevented filing any federal appeal ?
Guess I am getting jaded in my yrs of listening to crap, by being suspicious of this crap..
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 28, 2014 18:55:40 GMT -6
As of tomorrow ( Wednesday) his running days will be over. Time to face the consquences . Raped & cut the mothers throat, cut Kyles throat( 9 yrs old), pressed on Adrians throat until she suffocated (12 yrs old). Now that is cruel & unusual.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 28, 2014 18:38:17 GMT -6
As of tomorrow ( Wednesday) his running days will be over. Time to face the consquences .
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 28, 2014 18:33:41 GMT -6
Pronounced dead at 6:45 pm. CDT.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 22, 2014 21:00:47 GMT -6
The dog just made a bad choice, & had a bad puppyhood.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 21, 2014 8:56:58 GMT -6
;)Dec 12th, not far away & It's Howdy Doody time.
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