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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 16:00:37 GMT -6
Panetti Sane Enough For Execution At least for now, inmate cleared for death BY JORDAN SMITH, 10:09AM, THU. AUG. 22 Scott Panetti For the second time in nearly a decade, the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that Scott Panetti, a schizophrenic sent to death row for a 1992 double murder, is sane enough to be executed. Whether that means Panetti is actually closer to a date with the executioner, however, remains to be seen. Panetti was convicted and sentenced to death for the Sept. 8, 1992 slaying of his in-laws, Joe and Amanda Alvarado, at the couple's home in Fredericksburg. Panetti had been hospitalized in connection with his illness at least 11 times prior to the slaying and was last released just two months before he killed the Alvarados. When he turned himself into police the afternoon of the murders he told investigators that "Sarge," a recurring auditory hallucination, was responsible for the crime. Panetti was heavily medicated when deemed competent to stand trial, but by the time he actually went to court for the crime he was off his meds and insisted on representing himself, a request granted by Kerr County District Judge Stephen Ables. At trial, Panetti wore a purple cowboy suit and subpoenaed hundreds of witnesses, including Jesus Christ and Anne Bancroft. Despite his bizarre and disturbing behavior, he was ultimately convicted in 1995. Since then, however, Panetti's case has made it's way to the U.S. Supreme Court twice as questions persist about whether he is actually sane enough to be executed. At issue, in part, is whether Panetti has "rational understanding" of why he is to be executed. Panetti has repeatedly acknowledged that the state says it intends to kill him for the murder of the Alvarados, but that he believes that is a ruse to hide a satanic plot to kill him in order to stop him from preaching the "gospel of the Lord King." In 2004, federal District Judge Sam Sparks ruled that although Panetti is clearly seriously mentally ill, it was unlikely to make a difference to the Fifth Circuit, which held that Panetti only need a basic understanding of the relationship between his crime and execution in order to pass the Eighth Amendment ban on cruel and unusual punishments. That is indeed what the Fifth Circuit ruled, but that was later overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court, which concluded that the lower court's test for sanity was too restrictive (despite the persuasive efforts of then-Solicitor General Ted Cruz to convince the court that an ill inmate's awareness that the state has a reason for carrying out an execution is enough to satisfy the constitution). The case went back to Sparks for another hearing and this time, aided in part by the content of "secret" recordings of conversations between Panetti and family members that demonstrated he had a complex understanding of his case, the judge ruled that although still seriously ill, Panetti was likely sane enough to die. On Wednesday, the Fifth Circuit again agreed, ruling also that Panetti was afforded sufficient access to medical experts to present his case and that he was not entitled to relief based on a claim that Ables should have insisted that Panetti be represented by counsel at trial despite his desire to represent himself. In evidence before the court during the most recent hearing, in 2008, the court wrote, Panetti demonstrated "that he has thought about the death penalty and its moral and political implications, corroborating the State's experts' determination that he is capable of understanding the retributive connection between his crime and punishment." Still, when, or whether, Panetti will ultimately be executed is unclear. Because competency is fluid, what may appear to be malingering today may in fact be madness tomorrow. www.austinchronicle.com/blogs/news/2013-08-22/panetti-sane-enough-for-execution/
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Post by starbux on Aug 26, 2013 1:10:06 GMT -6
Keep him medicated until x day
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Post by charon on Aug 26, 2013 2:23:30 GMT -6
Yeah, blame it on satan, scumbag! Pathetic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 18:29:58 GMT -6
Doesnt every lawyer try & use the tard card at some time in the appeal process It seems to me they dont raise it untill they have a X date. If they realy was a nutter why dont they bring it up in the beginning of the case..
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Post by stillwaiting on Mar 27, 2014 6:57:32 GMT -6
it was my uncle who this so called crazy murdered. what i dont get is why if his family says he has mental problems since childhood why not put him in a institution where he couldnt hurt anyone? but no they wait till he cold blooded murdered two people in their home then says hes insane it makes me so mad my grandma has passed in 08 now she will never see justice for her first born!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2014 20:04:09 GMT -6
it was my uncle who this so called crazy murdered. what i dont get is why if his family says he has mental problems since childhood why not put him in a institution where he couldnt hurt anyone? but no they wait till he cold blooded murdered two people in their home then says hes insane it makes me so mad my grandma has passed in 08 now she will never see justice for her first born! I am sorry for your loss, & your grandma Not being here to see this non human put down like the rabid dog he is..
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Post by stillwaiting on Mar 28, 2014 8:27:10 GMT -6
Thanks! Hes about on last his last leg. Lawyers are just stalling. But i will be there with bells on when they put his sorry cowardly butt to death. And finally my grandma can rest in peace.!
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Post by stillwaiting on Oct 15, 2014 12:46:45 GMT -6
Great News recieved word yesterday" In case you haven’t heard, the United States Supreme Court denied Panetti’s appeal. I was told the hearing to set the execution date will be on December 12th at the Gillespie County Courthouse. I will keep you posted as I hear new information on the case" from Karen Martin victims advocate. Just thought id let yall know. Will keep you up to date as it progresses
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Post by starbux on Oct 20, 2014 22:03:11 GMT -6
Doesnt every lawyer try & use the tard card at some time in the appeal process It seems to me they dont raise it untill they have a X date. If they realy was a nutter why dont they bring it up in the beginning of the case.. That's just it they weren't at trial. Usually what happens is that DR inmates have different council for appeal. Usually the tard card is in conjunction with not having effective council at trial as their argument.
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Post by stillwaiting on Oct 21, 2014 8:25:21 GMT -6
Might i add that this was their defense all along, had him dress like howdy doody and had him call Jesus to the stand oh did i mention he was so insane that they let him represent his self but of course his parents said he was always mentally ill. But they never said how he was hyped up on drugs n booze but i guess your insane if you do drungs n booze right? Ah well his parents have used all their money cause the last appeal was done by court appointed attorney . But not only are they if not broke pretty close to it they will have to live the rest of their lives knowing bored and raised a cold blooded murderer but also all the money in the world wont erase that stigma theyy have to carry that to their graves.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 21, 2014 8:56:58 GMT -6
;)Dec 12th, not far away & It's Howdy Doody time.
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Post by moonlight on Oct 24, 2014 12:02:57 GMT -6
I hope he roast in hell for eternity this damned undesirable thing.
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Post by stillwaiting on Oct 29, 2014 9:18:34 GMT -6
Great News! The victim advocate was misimformed. Heres what she wrote to the family: Hi all,
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I was misinformed, but it’s still good news. Scott Panetti’s execution date is set forDecember 3, 2014 at 6:00 p.m. in Huntsville, Texas.
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Family members may request to view the execution.Â
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Karen L. Martin
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Post by stillwaiting on Oct 29, 2014 9:21:01 GMT -6
Just wanted yall to know now my grandma and uncle can finally rip :')
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Post by liljessncda on Nov 2, 2014 19:04:51 GMT -6
Just wanted yall to know now my grandma and uncle can finally rip :') Very happy you & the rest of your family will get Justice I'm so very sorry you lost your uncle so tragically. May he Rest in Peace.
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Post by unkelremus on Nov 9, 2014 7:28:10 GMT -6
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Post by stillwaiting on Nov 19, 2014 10:35:30 GMT -6
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 20, 2014 14:31:47 GMT -6
I am with you, petiton signed.
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Post by stillwaiting on Nov 20, 2014 19:13:54 GMT -6
Thank you white diamonds
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 24, 2014 9:17:46 GMT -6
The judge denied Panetti's appeal, it's now being sent to the Court of Criminal appeals.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 1:10:45 GMT -6
I am with you, petiton signed. Me to, signed sealed delivered via change.org
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 1:14:01 GMT -6
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 25, 2014 17:18:48 GMT -6
Court of criminal appeals 11/25/14 voted agains't Panetti today.
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Post by rayozz on Dec 1, 2014 22:16:27 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 1:21:41 GMT -6
I think this guy is as good as dead, they want to pull a rabbit out of a hat quick smart..
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Post by whitediamonds on Dec 3, 2014 12:07:00 GMT -6
I think this guy is as good as dead, they want to pull a rabbit out of a hat quick smart.. Nope, put on hold again.
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Post by whitediamonds on Dec 3, 2014 12:33:46 GMT -6
I think this guy is as good as dead, they want to pull a rabbit out of a hat quick smart.. Nope, put on hold again. Federal Appeals Court asking TX to put on hold, until they review .
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Post by liljessncda on Dec 3, 2014 16:10:56 GMT -6
Very unfortunate people can use mental illness as an excuse to not pay for there crime..
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Post by whitediamonds on Dec 3, 2014 19:54:23 GMT -6
Very unfortunate people can use mental illness as an excuse to not pay for there crime.. Well, at least this one did not just become mentally ill when the date is near. To say he does not understand why he is being executed now all of a sudden must mean he is not mentally ill, he is criminally insane.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 20:04:50 GMT -6
So he got a stay, so close, i thought he was toast
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