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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 21, 2014 8:04:24 GMT -6
Actually even China is putting the brakes on the DP.
One women had murdered her husband brutally & cut up his body. They found she had factually been brutally abused by him. So, she will not get the DP.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 19, 2014 11:14:16 GMT -6
A jury is only as good as what information they are given. Seems what is holding it up is, the jury decided to give Correll the DP sentence without some evidence presented to them.
This evidence denied Correll his rights to an individuallized Capital sentencing determination which ignored critical matters. Correll is the murderer though, that is confirmed.
Correll was on crystal meth most of his life, & had a bad childhood.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 16, 2014 14:32:38 GMT -6
Greg Davis was indicted in Collins County by a grand jury in 2010, tampering with Govermentmental records, though & a judge let him off.
Not connected to the Routier case, sure gives a good insight though.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 16, 2014 14:22:02 GMT -6
Where facts cannot not be disputed, murder continues inside those walls, murder has continued by a paroled murderer again outside those walls too many times, too many more victims. Murder inside those walls, in ( non DP states) just get more yrs added to their sentence as we know, no one really lives to 150 ys old..( not yet)
How do anti's reconcile those facts? They do not, they go mum.. How do you ignore all those victims? That should bring shame !!!
Is an execution of an innocent person strong enough to "completely" abolish the DP?
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 16, 2014 11:49:05 GMT -6
Except for one thing "Perfect justice is neither possible or desirable?" by Joseph D. Phillips. And that would have to include murder. You statement didn't say except for murder. You either believe in those words or you don't. I've explained this over and over, and you still don't get it. Perfect justice means there are no mistakes. That's all. Even if that were attainable, getting there would make convictions all but impossible. In that sense perfect justice is neither attainable or desirable. 2 way street, nor would justice be attainable or desirable to execute all murderers.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 16, 2014 10:43:51 GMT -6
On the contrary, it has everything to do with your position that, “there is no good reason to spare one murderer the death penalty and not the other.” After all, we’re not a nation of mindless automatons who are incapable of distinguishing the difference between a coldblooded serial killer and a mother who loses control and walks into a courtroom and blows the child molester away who just sodomized her ten year old son. Seriously, Phillips, one size doesn't fit all. One size does fit all when it comes to murder. From the point of view of the murder VICTIM, all murderers are the same. Your view of murder is decidedly irrational. We should be punishing the crime, not the criminal. Well yes, we could mindlessly & heartlessly kill them all. Even the mother who blows the child molester away who sodomized her son too, because murder is murder & dead is dead. Right? What would the victims(son) point of view be on his mother's execution later in his life when mature be on that? You paint with a wide brush speaking for all victims too.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 14, 2014 10:10:59 GMT -6
Sure I have wondered about that. She sure appears guilty to me & I guess you but.......... The transcript that was reviewed had 33,000 errors & omissions also. Not good if that is true. You cannot keep someone on DR without a new trial" if true". Or why fear a new updated DNA test with technology so improved? Over cost of? I haven't read the whole transcript. I'm sure every case has omissions and errors because we humans are imperfect. To me that is different than deliberately leaving something out. Just reading about the case once someone brought up that one point which to me is a "valid" point. I am curious on how 33,000 omissions and errors can be left out. I mean 33,000 what? Easy, how could 33,000 omissions & errors be left out. The biggest blunder is in the orginal transcript, a serious one. Which the court reporter lost her license over. This should have resulted in a new trial. She lied to the judge about the existence of the audiotape of the trial. One juror came forward & stated, he could not have voted guilty if he had seen the photo's of Darlies injuries " Not shown at the trial" To add: the jury saw snipets of the silly string which drew so much media attention too, leaving out if watching the rest showing the family praying & crying together. Friends brought the balloons & trinkets , Darlie's sister brought the silly string. They "illegally" wired tapped the events of June 14th which would have been Devon's 7th Birthday. Greg Davis, declared Darlie was a psychopath with no factual basis, no shrink testified to such in the trial, nor to this day as factual.. lack of ethics for sure. Though I am pro, ethics has gone out the door on this one.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 14, 2014 9:24:27 GMT -6
I don't know if anyone knows this but the youngest son Drake has Leukemia. Yes, I know I have been keeping up on their facebook page for Drake.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 13, 2014 21:49:34 GMT -6
DNA testing has advanced since 1996, like skin oils in fingerprints which were unidentified. I am pro DP but" too much on this case was iffy. There is no solid proof she is guilty or innocent. Haven't you ever wondered if someone was going to murder her and the kids wouldn't they go for her first and get her out of the way. To attack the kids first doesn't make sense. Sure I have wondered about that. She sure appears guilty to me & I guess you but.......... The transcript that was reviewed had 33,000 errors & omissions also. Not good if that is true. You cannot keep someone on DR without a new trial" if true". Or why fear a new updated DNA test with technology so improved? Over cost of?
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 12, 2014 15:06:46 GMT -6
When an inmate murder's again inside those walls (states with no DP), they just add another 30 yr's or so to his life sentence. Like they already live to a 150 yrs old . This appears rather absurd to me... What a waste of money and resources! Money, resources & more lives criminally lost.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 11, 2014 18:00:37 GMT -6
When an inmate murder's again inside those walls (states with no DP), they just add another 30 yr's or so to his life sentence. Like they already live to a 150 yrs old .
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 10, 2014 17:15:23 GMT -6
[quote author=" lordextinct" source="/post/624046/thread" timestamp="1412979794" we should rather execute the worst of these criminals ASAP, instead of keeping them alive. After all, what the devil is the point of storing them? . [/quote] Exactly, what is the point of storing them, who have cut short others lives. O/T : Another reason to raise the age to retire.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 8, 2014 11:44:01 GMT -6
it is so complex. Race, gender, state by state, plea bargains etc the list is long. So, yes it is inconsistently applied. Guess the only thing I can say is" No process completely controled by like minded individuals is going to end up unbiased either. One particular crime, and one ascribed punishment for that crime. There's no bias in that. The only bias accrues from the weak-willed in their baffling deference to murderers. That is "your" bias opinion I see a connection between the DP & abortion. If life is " really sacred "only then will I believe life is sacred when it works both ways.. DP involves medical doctors when they use their stethoscopes to determine the job is done they are dead, they are assisting in execution. Even more so with abortions. Fact !!!
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 7, 2014 11:09:15 GMT -6
I hope justice is based on ethics , not morality. Morality is more of a subjective issue. It's only subjective if applied inconsistently. There is no good reason to spare one murderer the death penalty and not the other. You know I have no answer for your reasoning, it is so complex. Race, gender, state by state, plea bargains etc the list is long. So, yes it is inconsistently applied. Guess the only thing I can say is" No process completely controled by like minded individuals is going to end up unbiased either.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 5, 2014 14:52:09 GMT -6
Well, there should be no problem with a more advanced DNA test to lock that guilty verdict in tight then. A good thing all the way around. I have a problem with it, on moral grounds. I hope justice is based on ethics , not morality. Morality is more of a subjective issue.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 4, 2014 11:20:47 GMT -6
DNA testing has advanced since 1996, like skin oils in fingerprints which were unidentified. I am pro DP but" too much on this case was iffy. There is no solid proof she is guilty or innocent. She was determined to be guilty, so she was, and is, guilty. Well, there should be no problem with a more advanced DNA test to lock that guilty verdict in tight then. A good thing all the way around.
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Post by whitediamonds on Sept 28, 2014 12:18:01 GMT -6
I do not think it is ironic people hate seeing blood etc. it is what we see in crime photos which is barbaric. It should be more like an assisted suicide is carried out,.or euthanasia methods.
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Post by whitediamonds on Sept 28, 2014 11:57:17 GMT -6
DNA testing has advanced since 1996, like skin oils in fingerprints which were unidentified.
I am pro DP but" too much on this case was iffy. There is no solid proof she is guilty or innocent.
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Post by whitediamonds on Sept 25, 2014 16:46:04 GMT -6
Agree, or four or five meals maybe. Instead of LI we should of starved her to death like she did to her poor kid.. My halo is a bit slanted, that is my first thoughts & feelings starve her & don't forget the child had bruises all over his body too. A hard long way for that poor child to die. She did have such an easy death in minutes. If there is an other side, I hope she has to feel all the pain/fear/ suffering she brought onto this child for eternity there.
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Post by whitediamonds on Sept 19, 2014 19:58:30 GMT -6
You would have to be a morbid loser to want to have a killers memorabilia.. Creepy isn't it..
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Post by whitediamonds on Sept 19, 2014 19:38:10 GMT -6
I believe it coming from her... Just like she acknowledged killing Travis "in self defense". Self defense in her twisted mind as having to stab him 30 times, slashed his throat "deeply" ( head almost detached completely, & shot him in the head. she has got this stare that seems to look straight through you, it might have something to do with her black eyes, you know, my grandmother told me never to trust someone with black eyes, glad i have never crossed paths with this bytch.. Her black eye's are scary, looking into her eyes you can really see & feel the evil inside her too..
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Post by whitediamonds on Sept 19, 2014 16:13:24 GMT -6
I believe it coming from her...
Just like she acknowledged killing Travis "in self defense". Self defense in her twisted mind as having to stab him 30 times, slashed his throat "deeply" ( head almost detached completely, & shot him in the head.
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Post by whitediamonds on Sept 17, 2014 17:39:36 GMT -6
Execution will be at 7pm now, 20 minutes from now.
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Post by whitediamonds on Sept 17, 2014 15:26:01 GMT -6
Relief just another hour & 1/2, then bye bye'
When the police found the nine year old child he appeared to be an 3 to 5 yr old. Starved to death kept in a c loset, with numerous bruises on his little body.
She still" I see makes sure she has plenty of food, look at her weight !!!
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Post by whitediamonds on Sept 17, 2014 11:24:57 GMT -6
I believe the death penalty doesn't deter Prison doesn't deter people will keep murdering no matter what the circumstances are . I agree, nothing deter's murderers even LWOP . No sentence time deters crimianls for any crimes.
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Post by whitediamonds on Sept 17, 2014 9:01:24 GMT -6
I believe the death penalty doesn't deter Prison doesn't deter people will keep murdering no matter what the circumstances are . I agree, nothing deter's murderers even LWOP .
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Post by whitediamonds on Sept 15, 2014 17:42:03 GMT -6
I agree on the express lane to the gurney, Porky. she should be denied a last meal..... or three. Agree, or four or five meals maybe.
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Post by whitediamonds on Sept 15, 2014 15:07:34 GMT -6
I never said give them any drugs nor did I say take the blood of anyone infected with any virus or bacteria. The assumptions are idiotic at best. Well these idiots say: The criminal justice & medical experts, the idea of recovering organs from willing murderes is frought with moral, ethical, & medical challenges, which make it unlikely to ever" be an option.
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Post by whitediamonds on Sept 15, 2014 14:01:40 GMT -6
I agree on the express lane to the gurney, Porky.
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Post by whitediamonds on Sept 15, 2014 13:56:14 GMT -6
Heck, not to mention many inside have, HIV, Hep, scepticemia & other infections. Self tattoo's in prison yuck!!! While you are correct, I think the presence in the blood sera of a 10x lethal overdose of seconal, versed, or whatever is of much more immediate concern. True but? I am not sure what mrlace"s post mean't to begin with? Did he mean NO LI at all just drain the blood from them? Yuck, still would not want their body parts/blood in me....I'd die first.
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