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Post by Californian on Jun 17, 2014 17:06:18 GMT -6
"police caution?" Wassat? I assume their term caution means to us warning, if you previously served time will be recorded as a re-offending. Warning is on record. A warning? Obviously a human rights violation. VERY harsh!
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Post by Californian on Jun 17, 2014 12:17:56 GMT -6
An example of the difference is that, in England, a police caution given to someone who has previously served time will be recorded as a re-offending; "police caution?" Wassat?
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Post by Californian on Jun 17, 2014 7:46:27 GMT -6
Let the anti whining begin! 3 inmates set to die; previous execution botched By JIM SALTER ST. LOUIS (AP) — There have been no U.S. executions in the seven weeks since an Oklahoma inmate died of a heart attack following a botched lethal injection. That soon could change, with three convicted killers scheduled to die in the span of about 24 hours. All three states planning lethal injections this week — Florida, Georgia and Missouri — refuse to say where they get their drugs, or if they are tested. Lawyers for the condemned inmates have challenged the secretive process used by some states to obtain lethal injection drugs from unnamed, loosely regulated compounding pharmacies. Nine executions nationwide have been stayed or postponed since late April, when Clayton Lockett's vein collapsed just as the drug began flowing into his arm in Oklahoma's death chamber. Lockett's punishment was halted, but despite efforts to save him, he died of a heart attack. "I think after Clayton Lockett's execution everyone is going to be watching very closely," Fordham University School of Law professor Deborah Denno, a death penalty expert, said of this week's executions. "The scrutiny is going to be even closer." Marcus Wellons is set to die Tuesday night in Georgia, followed six hours later by John Winfield, who faces execution at 12:01 a.m. Wednesday in Missouri. John Ruthell Henry's execution is scheduled for 6 p.m. Wednesday in Florida. Georgia and Missouri both use the single drug pentobarbital, a sedative. Florida uses a three-drug combination of midazolam hydrochloride, vecuronium bromide and potassium chloride. Despite concerns about the drugs and how they are obtained, death penalty supporters say all three convicted killers are getting what they deserve. Wellons was convicted in the 1989 rape and murder of India Roberts, his 15-year-old neighbor in suburban Atlanta. Soon after the girl left for school, another neighbor heard muffled screams from the apartment where Wellons was living. Later that day, a man told police he saw a man carrying what appeared to be a body in a sheet. Police found the girl's body in a wooded area. She had been strangled and raped. In Missouri, Winfield had been dating Carmelita Donald on and off for several years and fathered two of her children. Donald began dating another man. One night in 1996, in a jealous rage, Winfield showed up outside Donald's apartment in St. Louis County and confronted her, along with two friends of Donald. Winfield shot all three women in the head. Arthea Sanders and Shawnee Murphy died in the attack. Donald survived but was blinded. Symone Winfield, the daughter of Donald and John Winfield, is among those asking Gov. Jay Nixon for clemency. A federal judge granted a stay of execution last week on a claim that a prison worker dropped plans write a letter in support of clemency due to intimidation from staff. That stay is under appeal. In Florida, the state is moving ahead with the execution despite claims that Henry is mentally ill and intellectually disabled. The state claims anyone with an IQ of at least 70 is not mentally disabled; testing has shown Henry's IQ at 78, though his lawyers say it should be re-evaluated. Henry stabbed his estranged wife, Suzanne Henry, to death a few days before Christmas in 1985. Hours later, he killed her 5-year-old son from a previous relationship. Henry had previously pleaded no contest to second-degree murder for fatally stabbing his common-law wife, Patricia Roddy, in 1976, and was on parole when Suzanne Henry and the boy were killed. Florida and Missouri trail only Texas as the most active death penalty states. Florida has executed five men in 2014 and Missouri four. Texas has carried out seven executions. Combined, the three states have performed 16 of the 20 executions this year. Wellons would be the first Georgia inmate executed since February 2013 and just the second since 2011.
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Post by Californian on Jun 10, 2014 12:12:36 GMT -6
Following countries permit The Death Penatly. Afghanistan blah blah blah blah ad nauseam... Hey, Euroweenie? Go away. It's a family fight, and you ain't family. We'll handle it ourselves.
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Post by Californian on May 28, 2014 8:30:23 GMT -6
Yes, because when someone commits society's oldest taboo, we as society are victims as well.
Victims (or their families) don't exact justice. We as society do.
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Post by Californian on May 21, 2014 22:04:40 GMT -6
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Post by Californian on May 21, 2014 17:01:48 GMT -6
The 8th US Circuit Court of Appeals cited concerns about Russell Bucklew’s rare medical condition, which raised the risk of “unnecessary pain and suffering by the inmate.” Supreme Court Weighs Fate of Missouri Inmate Russell Bucklew BY TRACY CONNOR The fate of a Missouri death-row inmate who says his execution should be scrapped because he has a birth defect will be decided by the U.S. Supreme Court on Wednesday. Russell Bucklew was a couple of hours away from a lethal injection when Justice Samuel Alito temporarily halted the execution until his colleagues could weigh in. Bucklew's death warrant remains in effect until 12:01 a.m. Thursday, so if the Supreme Court removes the stay in that window, he could be executed. As the hours passed on Wednesday, he declined breakfast and lunch. His last meal, eaten Tuesday evening, was T-bone steak, baked potato, Caesar salad, apple pie with ice cream and a cola.
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Post by Californian on May 20, 2014 6:27:39 GMT -6
Why don't you take a shower of that healthy radiation yourself? Maybe it cures whatever you're suffering from. I thought people like your grandparents were the experts at dangerous "showers."
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Post by Californian on May 18, 2014 10:53:48 GMT -6
Oh yes, she's even better than Sarah Palin. Nazi says what? A shame we didn't have the bomb a few months earlier, or we'd have shown you.
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Post by Californian on May 16, 2014 14:31:45 GMT -6
one actually hit him in the head. He died instantly. Demonstrates there can be flaws. that wasn't a flaw. that was an "aim". apparently quite effective at that. It's pretty hard to imagine a member of the military missing center mass of a human at what, 10 yards? And I'll bet none of the shooters said "whoops!," either. We either have to get this guy more range time or a medal. I'm down with a Bronze Star.
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Post by Californian on May 15, 2014 7:52:44 GMT -6
This woman cracks me up! Death Penalty Opponents, Have I Got a Deal For You!Ann Coulter 5/14/2014 5:35:00 PM - Ann Coulter As described in last week's column, The New York Times and other sanctimonious news outlets censored details about the crime that put Clayton Lockett on death row, the better to generate revulsion at his deserved execution. You might say they buried the facts alive. For example, the Times neglected to mention anything about the raping that preceded the murdering, which seems odd for a newspaper so consumed with the "War on Women." (At least Lockett never refused to pay for a woman's birth control pills!) The Times also dropped the part about Lockett's dangerous behavior while incarcerated, such as ordering hits on the witnesses against him, his threats to kill prison guards, and the bounty of homemade weapons seized from him in prison -- saw blades, sharpened wires, shivs and shanks. (Old Times motto: "All the News That's Fit to Print." New Times motto: "Nobody Likes a Rat.") The newspaper also failed to report that Lockett had ended up in an adult prison by the age of 16 and then was convicted of four more felonies before committing the torture-murder of Stephanie Neiman that sent him to death row. No, that information might distract from the Times' florid descriptions of Lockett's execution. Bless their hearts, they gave it their all, but even the Times could not make Lockett's "botched" execution sound particularly grisly. Here is the paper's full, terrifying description: "According to an eyewitness account by a reporter for The Tulsa World, Mr. Lockett tried to raise himself up, mumbled the word 'man,' and was in obvious pain. Officials hastily closed the blinds on the chamber and told reporters that the execution had been stopped because of a 'vein failure.' But at 7:06, the inmate was pronounced dead of a heart attack." HE RAISED HIMSELF UP? WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY ARE WE??? Actually, I'm not that horrified. It sounds as if he suffered a bit, which is nice, and he's dead, which was the objective of the whole enterprise. You want horrifying? Imagine a 2-inch baby being chopped up with scissors. That can't feel great. Maybe they -- and MSNBC's similarly high-minded Rachel Maddow -- should comfort themselves by thinking of Lockett's execution as a very, very, very late-term abortion. You know, the kind that liberal darling Wendy Davis filibustered for 11 hours to keep legal. Since Rachel and the Times are such big fans of partial-birth abortion, would they mind if we took a gigantic pair of scissors, jammed them in the back of Clayton Lockett's head and let his brain slide out? Let's get Kermit Gosnell working again! Or how about giving the citizens of Oklahoma the right to choose an acid bath for condemned murderers? We'll submerge people like Lockett in a tub filled with burning fluid until he's mostly disintegrated and can be flushed down the toilet. (If it's low-flow, flush twice.) Or maybe an industrial vacuum designed to tear Lockett's body apart. Which reminds me: Would the Times ever give as detailed a description of an abortion as it does for the execution of a remorseless killer? The odds are pretty high that the baby isn't even a rapist/murderer. Opposition to the death penalty has nothing to do with compassion. Liberals weeping for murderers have zero compassion for an innocent baby trying to escape an abortionist's cranioclast. Their dead earnestness about monsters like Clayton Lockett is solely designed to demonstrate how virtuous they are. It will come as a surprise to the sort of person who works at the Times, but there are lots of people who don't go through life trying to prove they're better than everyone else. They don't think to themselves: Listen to NPR? Check. Got the kids into a fancy preschool? Check. Now, what's that little extra for experts? ... Defend depraved murderers! Check! Manifestly, these death penalty hysterics do not care about the victims of crime. But they don't really care about the killers, either. Their only objective is to increase their self-esteem. This is why liberal arguments against the death penalty are always circular. It's not about logic; it's about their conception of themselves. U.S. pharmaceutical companies won't sell lethal injection drugs to the states because they don't want to be sued and harassed by anti-death penalty activists. European pharmaceutical companies refuse to sell the drugs to the U.S. because they're so deeply committed to human rights -- as we saw around the middle of the last century. Then they all turn around and complain when crummy substitutes fail to produce nice, peaceful exits for heinous murderers. (You know -- like they gave their victims.) It's exactly like the left's complaint that the death penalty "costs too much." Q: Why is it so expensive? A: Because we sue, drag the cases out forever with endless appeals and require states to spend millions of dollars on legal costs. How about we cut the Euros and lefty activists out of the execution process altogether with a voluntary firing squad? It's quick, it's effective and the whole community gets to participate! The state could run ads in newspapers giving detailed accounts of the condemned man's crime -- all that stuff The New York Times frantically hides from its readers -- and then ask: "Would you be interested in being assigned to his firing squad?" The Supreme Court has defined "cruel and unusual punishment" as something that offends society's "evolving sense of decency." When we see how many people volunteer for the firing squad, we'll at least have a back-of-the-envelope estimate on whether society's "evolving sense of decency" is more offended by the death of Clayton Lockett or that of Stephanie Neiman. I know I'd volunteer. Having read the truth about what psychopaths like Clayton Lockett have done, I'd pay for the opportunity, especially if they promise my gun won't have a blank.
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Post by Californian on May 15, 2014 7:48:54 GMT -6
Ricky Ray Rector, Arkansas 1992 is a person who probably should not have been executed. Don't think he really knew what was about to happen to him: "A question of the morality of killing someone who was functionally retarded. An oft cited example of his mental insufficiency is his decision to save the dessert of his last meal for after his execution. Supporters claim that Rector IQ was measured less than 70, which is the standard benchmark for determining mental retardation." Did you miss the part about how Ricky Ray Rector became "retarded?" As the cops closed in to arrest him, he self-administered a 9MM brain hemorrhage. As with the entire rest of his life, it went wrong and he survived.
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Post by Californian on May 7, 2014 16:51:16 GMT -6
If youse guys use the "preview" function at bottom left before hitting the "reply" button it will show you what the post is gonna look like.
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Post by Californian on May 7, 2014 12:35:55 GMT -6
In that medical doctors are not allowed to be a part of the process -- even to render advice to prison officials -- because it could violate their Hippocratic Oaths; Few physicians even TAKE the Hippocratic Oath any more. And it's true that the American Medical Association forbids its members to take part, but again, only about 20% of U.S. Physicians belong to the AMA. The LD100 (Lethal dose for 100% of the population) is well-known for every prescribed drug. According to one news story I read, he was given 500 MGMs of Versed IV push. The prescribed dose for sedation was 3-5 MGMs over several minutes IV push. So, even absent the follow-on pavulon and KCL, it was a fatal dose of the first drug by a factor of at least 10. I now agree with what Joe Phillips has been saying for years-we medicalized this procedure just to make ourselves feel better about killing the hump. And in doing so, we've given the antis much to biatch about. Screw that. Shoot them or hang them and be done with it.
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Post by Californian on May 6, 2014 7:57:13 GMT -6
The Oklahoma Heart Vs. the Abolitionist Heart
5/6/2014 12:01:00 AM - Dennis Prager
Last week, Oklahoma authorities botched the execution of a murderer named Clayton Lockett. The execution by lethal injection took more than 40 minutes. According to witnesses, he twitched and gasped and said, "oh, man" after officials had thought he was unconscious.
Opponents of the death penalty outdid one another in expressing their outrage. It was the left's hysteria-of-the-week.
In contrast, many Oklahomans were not nearly as upset.
"Who cares if he feels pain," stylist April Sewell, at Hair Naturally in Perry told Oklahoma TV station KFOR. "You know, honestly, he's getting away a lot easier than how his victim did, how Stephanie did."
Marilee Macias, owner of the town's popular diner, Kumback Lunch, told KFOR, "What that guy got, he deserved."
Tiajuana Hammock, a friend of the family of Lockett's murder victim, Stephanie Neiman, told the station: "I have no sympathy at all. None whatsoever. Stephanie was beat up; she was shot; she was thrown in a grave when she was still alive. His little 30 minutes of lying there in anguish, if he was even feeling any anguish for 30 minutes, does not compare at all to anything Stephanie went through, or her family."
Bobby Lee Bornt, the man who was tied up and beaten by Lockett and his accomplices, said he was tired of all the talk about Lockett's rights.
"Everything that's been talked about is them, what they feel, and no one's mentioned what Stephanie's family feels and Summer and her family and what it's done to them or me and my family," Bornt said. "We live with this every single day and it, it'll honestly tear you apart."
This reaction is not confined to Oklahomans who live in Perry. Mike Christian, a Republican Congressman from Oklahoma, wasn't all that perturbed by Lockett's execution, either. He just wanted Lockett dead. "I realize this may sound harsh," the congressman said, "but as a father and former lawman, I really don't care if it's by lethal injection, by the electric chair, firing squad, hanging, the guillotine or being fed to the lions."
Nor is this reaction confined to Oklahoma. The Los Angeles Times reports that "[t]he reaction so far by readers who have sent us letters? Big deal -- the man who shot and buried his victim alive 15 years ago had it coming."
On the other side are the abolitionists.
The Los Angeles Times reporter notes that, unlike many of his newspapers' readers, he opposes capital punishment: "A government execution of anyone -- even a brutal murderer -- is an immoral, barbaric act, no matter how you do it."
He doesn't explain why it is "barbaric." In fact, in a lifetime of debating opponents of capital punishment, I have never heard one explanation as to why killing a murderer such as Lockett is "barbaric." They all merely assert it.
So does another proponent of keeping all murderers alive, Jeffrey Toobin, legal analyst for CNN and The New Yorker. He writes in The New Yorker: "The oxymoronic quest for humane executions only accentuates the absurdity of allowing the death penalty in a civilized society."
Again, not a word explaining why putting murderer/torturers like Lockett to death is an "absurdity." He just asserts it.
As for "oxymoronic," this is what's oxymoronic: the proposition that keeping people like Lockett alive is just.
Anti-death penalty activists are preoccupied with whatever suffering Lockett endured for about a half hour. Pro-death penalty people are preoccupied with what Lockett's victims endured.
For the record, here is what Clayton Lockett did on June 3, 1999:
Clayton Lockett, 23, Shawn Mathis, 26, and Alfonzo Lockett, 17, planned on robbing Bobby Lee Bornt, 23, at his house in Perry, Oklahoma. They tied up Bornt and beat him in front of the man's sobbing 9-month-old son. At the same time, Stephanie Neiman, 18, was dropping off her friend Summer Bradshaw at Bornt's home. All three robbers raped the two girls, and then drove the girls, Bornt and his baby son to a rural area. They forced Mathis to dig a grave over which Lockett shot Stephanie Neiman twice. Unfortunately, she did not die from the gunshot wounds, and so she cried and begged not to be buried alive. But Clayton Lockett ordered her buried.
"I could hear her breathing and crying and everything," Lockett said nonchalantly in his videotaped confession.
The cold hearts of the abolitionists are matched only by their mendacity. They and their European allies are the one's ultimately responsible for the botched execution. First, they force executions by lethal injection, and then they make it all but impossible to legally obtain the drugs necessary for such executions.
In virtually every account of the execution I have read, just one sentence is devoted to what Clayton Lockett did to Stephanie Neiman. And in his New York Times column, Charles M. Blow directs his fury not at Lockett -- about whom all he could say is, "Lockett was no angel" -- but for supporters of the death penalty.
Perhaps this near-ignoring of what happened to Stephanie Neiman, and other murder victims and their families, helps explain how people like Toobin, Blow, and the ACLU anti-capital punishment activists can live with themselves. So, in order to make that more difficult, I conclude with excerpts from the statement made by Stephanie's parents:
"Every day we are left with horrific images of what the last hours of Stephanie's life was like. Did she cry out for us to help her? We are left with the knowledge that she needed us and we were not aware of it therefore unable [to] help her.
"We go through the motions of living, we eat, we sleep, Steve [the father] goes to work and comes home again. We do what we have to do to make it through the day and we start all over again the next. We exist."
Jeffrey Toobin and Charles "Lockett Was No Angel" Blow should read that statement.
Not that it will matter, alas. In America today, it appears that the more passionate the opponents of capital punishment are, the colder their hearts.
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Post by Californian on May 5, 2014 20:17:57 GMT -6
Live and learn, I say. I thought red, white and blue is your flag, but it's an old man's ass. Don't make us come over there again, sonny, because this time, no more Mr. Nice Guys.
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Post by Californian on May 4, 2014 22:04:27 GMT -6
Hi. I think the quotes I quotes I posted speak for themselves. And I wonder why people post such. Hey Nils? Why don't you pucker up and kiss my pasty red, white and blue American ass? And grow a pair, You Euroweenie twat.
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Post by Californian on Apr 30, 2014 21:20:43 GMT -6
The old double hot seat in the green room at San Quentin worked much better. Once you got that first whiff of cyanide, you were cleared to land. No more vectoring. We could accomplish the same thing with an overdose of drug #1 and dispense with the unnecessary lung paralysis and heart stoppage steps. Some states have already figured this out. How much longer before the rest of them do? I agree with Stormy and Joe Phillips. Nuts to this being "humane" and all. What we've done is give the antis an issue to biatch about. Jesus Harry Christ, we're KILLING the hump. What's "humane" about that? Back to the rope.
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Post by Californian on Apr 30, 2014 8:43:09 GMT -6
I suspect the IV "infiltrated," i.e. the needle (or more likely plastic catheter) came out of the vein but was still beneath his skin. When that happens, the IV fluid still goes into the body, but slowly. The fluid eventually absorbs, but much more slowly than if it was injected into a vein, and thus the drugs take effect much more slowly as well. Hi Bob, all good thanks. And yerself? The news here says the warden described his vein as "exploding". Can you shed any light on that? I'm good and enjoying my retirement. As to the vein "exploding," no idea. I guess a clot could have formed upstream of the IV. If they simply hang up a bottle of saline (which I suspect) that would just stop the IV flowing (that's a fairly common occurrence) but if they use one of those LI machines that inject the drugs under pressure, I guess it would cause an "explosion," but it would more likely just cause the catheter to pop out. I'm sure there will be an autopsy and we'll know for sure then. I certainly admit to being curious. I haven't started an IV in over 40 years, and bet I could do so today no problem. It's a simple process.
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Post by Californian on Apr 30, 2014 7:41:38 GMT -6
I don't understand what a "vein failure" is. Anyone explain? I suspect the IV "infiltrated," i.e. the needle (or more likely plastic catheter) came out of the vein but was still beneath his skin. When that happens, the IV fluid still goes into the body, but slowly. The fluid eventually absorbs, but much more slowly than if it was injected into a vein, and thus the drugs take effect much more slowly as well.
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Post by Californian on Apr 30, 2014 7:34:36 GMT -6
It was called "a botched execution". I call it Karma Do you offer courses in meditation, too, or is your Buddhism a little more specialized? Ben! How ya been?
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Post by Californian on Apr 29, 2014 21:16:47 GMT -6
Vein failure would not happen with an electric chair...or at least not in the same contextual meaning. Well, Lockett is dead anyhow. Heart attack. It could be the first drug given too strong, or his vein problem the flow of the other two injections did not flow thru his body fast enough. Facts will come out later on what happened. The third drug is potassium chloride in a fatal dose all by itself. If it was injected, even if the IV infiltrated, that's what caused the "heart attack." It just took a little longer to absorb than IV administration.
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Post by Californian on Apr 29, 2014 16:40:43 GMT -6
Should be getting ready to light up lucky contestant #1 any minute now. Don Pardo, tell 'em what he's won!
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Post by Californian on Apr 29, 2014 12:53:19 GMT -6
I do realise that the question could be posed in a slightly more thoughtful manner. The point still stands, though - those left behind after the execution deserves the same support, compassion and consideration in the sentencing phase as those left behind by the murder. The lack of support for the friends and relatives of inmate compared to the support given to the friends and relatives of the murder victims, is a travesty and a tragedy.
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Post by Californian on Apr 29, 2014 12:48:59 GMT -6
Lockett asked for a last meal of steak, shrimp and full trimmings. This was denied because it exceeded the $15 limit. Now that is cruel!!. Surely they could cut down the size of portions. I could easily prepare that request for under $15.
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Post by Californian on Apr 27, 2014 9:39:30 GMT -6
The times for Lockett and Warner are 6.00pm and 8.00pm respectively, so the execution team has plenty of time to 'refresh' the equipment. Perhaps refreshments will be served between the festivities?
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Post by Californian on Apr 26, 2014 10:14:34 GMT -6
Texas double execution: August 2000 Cruz's execution began at about 6:30 p.m. because another prisoner, Brian Roberson, was being executed at the customary 6:00 p.m. time. Execution dates are set by local district judges and, as a result, two executions sometimes happen to be scheduled for the same day. Multiple executions are carried out in the same chamber and on the same gurney, although new sheets, needles, and tubing are used each timeA wise practice. After all, we wouldn't want the hump being executed to get an infection or anything, would we?
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Post by Californian on Apr 25, 2014 7:20:02 GMT -6
Wow! This is interesting. With all the LI issues in Oklahoma, we now have a double execution. How does this work? I think execution time is 6.00 pm until midnight. Do they shuffle one lot of witnesses and family in, and then swap them over. I know they have had double electrocutions, but has there ever been a double LI execution? Who goes first, perhaps lowest prison number? First you kill one, then the other. As to logistics, it doesn't seem all that daunting.
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Post by Californian on Apr 21, 2014 8:23:35 GMT -6
"Purple Haze was in my eyes, don't know if it's day or night, you've got me blowing, blowing my mind is it tomorrow or just the end of time?"
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Post by Californian on Apr 21, 2014 8:18:09 GMT -6
.. one actually hit him in the head. He died instantly. Demonstrates there can be flaws. Interesting that you see that as a "flaw." I see that as a "feature."
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