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Post by Californian on Mar 12, 2010 21:48:18 GMT -6
David Berkowitz years ago came to the saving grace of Christ. Great. Jesus can forgive him if he likes. You ain't Jesus. Like he'd get parole? They should have both been executed. Jesus might show them mercy. I wouldn't.
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Post by Californian on Mar 12, 2010 21:43:08 GMT -6
#9--3/11/10--TX--Joshua Maxwell--31 yrs oldFinal Meal: Maxwell’s final meal consists of six pieces of fried chicken with ketchup, three bacon cheeseburgers, six red Mountain Dews, a brownie, and french fries. You still on Maui, Erick?
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Post by Californian on Mar 11, 2010 19:32:40 GMT -6
Set to die today, killer calls his spree senselessMaxwell now understands what that means, he said. His three children — a son, 18, and two daughters, both 13 — are having difficulty grasping the fact their father is going to be executed. is this correct? maxwell was 31 and had an 18 year old son? I think those actually belong to the scumpal wife.
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Post by Californian on Mar 11, 2010 19:28:06 GMT -6
Hata la vista, creep. I ndiana man who murdered 2 executed in TexasHUNTSVILLE, Texas — An Indiana man whose cross-country crime spree with his girlfriend a decade ago ended in a gun battle with police in San Francisco was executed Thursday for robbing and murdering a sheriff's officer in San Antonio. No late court appeals were filed for Joshua Maxwell, 31, condemned for gunning down Bexar County Sheriff's Department Sgt. Rudy Lopes and stealing his truck in 2000. The 45-year-old veteran jailer was off duty at the time. The U.S. Supreme Court last week refused to review Maxwell's case. Maxwell also was convicted of killing a man in Indiana. Maxwell, his voice breaking and choking back tears, apologized repeatedly in the seconds before lethal drugs began flowing into his arms. "The person that did that 10 years ago isn't the same person you see today," he said. "I hurt a lot of people with decisions I made. I can't be more sorry than I am right now." Nine minutes later, at 6:27 p.m. CST, he was pronounced dead, making him the fourth inmate executed this year in the nation's busiest capital punishment state. Maxwell was the fourth Texas inmate executed this year. He was among at least 10 Texas death row inmates with execution dates in the coming months, including two more later this month. In late 2000, Maxwell and his girlfriend, Tessie McFarland, crisscrossed the country in a deadly crime spree, beginning in Indiana with the robbery and slaying of Robby Bott, 45, a FedEx mechanic from Mooresville, Ind. Lopes was killed a month later in October 2000, his bound and blindfolded body dumped behind a San Antonio shopping mall. "Absolutely cold-blooded murders," Jim Kopp, the Bexar County assistant district attorney who prosecuted Maxwell, recalled. Less than a week after Lopes' body was found, Maxwell and McFarland were arrested after a police chase and running gun battle through downtown San Francisco after Maxwell, driving Lopes' stolen truck, refused to be pulled over for running a red light. "There's really no explanation," Maxwell told The San Antonio Express-News recently from death row. "All the way from the top to the bottom, just senseless. "I need to be locked up, no doubt about it. But me dying isn't going to solve anything." He also acknowledged he committed a number of robberies, still unsolved, during the trek from Indiana to Florida, Texas and California. McFarland, a former stripper, was wounded during the police chase in San Francisco. Lopes' credit card, badge and service weapon were recovered from the truck, along with a Chinese-made 9 mm pistol determined to be the gun used to fatally shoot Lopes in the top of the head. In news reports of the time, the couple were compared to the main characters in the 1994 film "Natural Born Killers," who go on a murderous road trip, and also to Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow, the Depression-era robbers and killers whose notoriety was rekindled with a namesake movie in 1967. Maxwell was convicted of capital murder and sentenced to death in Lopes' killing. In Indiana, he was convicted of murder, felony confinement, arson and theft in Bott's slaying. Maxwell had a juvenile record in Indiana, a history with street gangs and adult convictions for auto theft, firearms possession, criminal trespass and felony theft. Bott's murder came about five months after Maxwell got out of prison. McFarland, 30, is serving a life prison term in Texas after pleading guilty to Lopes' slaying. In Indiana, she initially was charged with murder, criminal confinement, arson and theft in Bott's killing, but pleaded guilty to confinement and arson as part of a plea deal.
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Post by Californian on Mar 11, 2010 18:22:29 GMT -6
Set to die today, killer calls his spree senseless
By Michelle Mondo - Express-News Looking back, Joshua Maxwell concedes it was all a waste.
The Bonnie and Clyde comparisons, running from the law, the nationwide crime spree and most importantly, the deaths of his two victims: Bexar County sheriff's Sgt. Rudolfo “Rudy” Lopes II, 45, and Indiana native Robby Bott.
It was the robbery and shooting of Lopes 10 years ago for which Maxwell was condemned to die. He's scheduled to be executed today in Huntsville.
“There's really no explanation,” Maxwell, 31, said during a 45-minute death row interview about his crimes. “All the way from the top to the bottom, just senseless.”
The senselessness makes it all the worse for Lopes' family, his sister said. She asked that her name be withheld because of her job.
As for an explanation to why her brother is dead, she has one.
“He's just a monster,” she said of Maxwell.
Maxwell was 22 when he and his then-girlfriend Tessie McFarland, at age 21, were captured Oct. 17, 2000, after a running gunbattle on the streets of the Garden District in San Francisco.
Their arrests capped a nationwide crime spree that started in their home state of Indiana, moved through San Antonio and ended on the West Coast.
Maxwell admitted there likely are a string of unsolved robberies with his name on them but none of them as brutal as those of incidents involving Bott and Lopes.
A young girl found Lopes' body dumped behind a strip mall the morning of Oct. 12, 2000. The 15-year-law enforcement veteran had disappeared the day before, court documents show.
Lopes, bound and blindfolded, had been shot in the head. His new pickup was missing.
One month earlier, just south of Speedway, Ind., Bott's charred body was found in the trunk of his car. Bott, 45, had been kidnapped and tortured prior to his death, court documents say. The slayings mirrored each other: kidnapping, execution-style killing and robbery.
Once arrested, Maxwell confessed to both killings.
Two years later, a Bexar County jury convicted him of capital murder. McFarland pleaded guilty to murder and testified at Maxwell's trial. McFarland, now 30, currently is serving a life sentence at the Crain unit in Gatesville.
Following the Texas sentencing, Maxwell was put on trial in Indiana for Bott's slaying and was sentenced to 65 years. Prosecutors in Marion County, Ind., said it was agreed upon that Maxwell would serve his time in Texas.
Bott's family couldn't be reached for comment.
Lopes' sister said she plans to attend the execution, but her parents won't be there. It's too difficult for them to even look at him, she said.
“Maxwell, when he was housed here in Bexar County, he mocked my brother,” she said. “He mocked that he begged for his life and I'll always remember that.”
Lopes' only son is serving in the Army in Afghanistan. He was in his teens when his father was killed. Lopes' sister said she sees her brother in his son — conscientious, organized and dedicated.
“I'm still very angry,” she said. Maxwell “just tore apart our family.”
Maxwell now understands what that means, he said. His three children — a son, 18, and two daughters, both 13 — are having difficulty grasping the fact their father is going to be executed.
They live in Indiana and have visited their father a couple of times but mostly write. Maxwell said the pain endured by his victims' families isn't something he “shrugged off.”
“I've changed a lot,” he said. “I love my kids and I regret that fact that this guy's family is going through this.”
He said it hasn't been until the past few years that he's realized his aggression — which he said was learned from his abusive stepfather — ruled his way of thinking.
Maxwell admitted that while he feels regret, he doesn't want to die and railed against the death penalty. He served time in Indiana prior to the killings, but said Texas “was a whole different monster.”
“I need to be locked up, not doubt about it,” he said. “But me dying isn't going to solve anything.”
Lopes' sister disagreed. For her and her family, the execution of Maxwell is a long time coming.
“I don't think there's closure,” she said. “I don't know what that is. But, it's a way of moving on.”
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Post by Californian on Mar 11, 2010 12:11:44 GMT -6
Mike makes another friend. And the old bald guy's dementia gets worse. Named a friend on this board yet, Mike? Just one will do.
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Post by Californian on Mar 11, 2010 9:24:59 GMT -6
Mike makes another friend.
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Post by Californian on Mar 10, 2010 22:21:29 GMT -6
I am a little gobsmacked that an accomplice non shooter in an armed robbery that resulted in a murder describes themselves as being innocent. To many of our anti brethren, every person convicted of murder is innocent.
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Post by Californian on Mar 8, 2010 18:35:17 GMT -6
Marvellous, then perhaps you will allow others the same latitude to call it as they see it when it comes to religion? As to Islam, no, I won't, perhaps because, to my knowledge, none of the Christian sects have murdered thousands in the name of God for say, 500 years or so. You make the traditional mistake when using informal polls, Ben-you asked your friends. They're your friends because you tend to think alike. Although I consider whether Jesus approves of the DP rather irrelevant, I can easily make the argument that he did. For instance, did he say "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's," i.e. submit to the authority of the state? Additionally, Jesus was executed between two thieves, and although one professed his faith on the cross, Jesus didn't spare his life or say his execution was unjust, he simply said he d see him in Heaven. And again, as above, it's simply a matter of interpretation, and of just about zero significance in our times. Except, perhaps, to the large number of people who believe it is significant and vote to elect legislators who believe as they do, and there, of course, you have a problem.
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Post by Californian on Mar 8, 2010 13:06:19 GMT -6
So, after Bob the historian, journalist, warrior, constitutional scholar, medical expert and defender of public finances I am now to contend with the theologian and arbiter of internet politesse. I'm sorry for your shortcomings in all these areas, Ben, which of course I do not share. I use the term you're pointing out all the time, Ben. It's because I see Islam as not nearly as germane to human relationships as all the world's other major religions. Islam seems stuck in the 7th century to me. Apparently it's not etymology, either. ham-hand·ed (hmhndd) adj. 1. Lacking dexterity or skill; clumsy. 2. Lacking social grace or tact. www.thefreedictionary.com/ham-handed
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Post by Californian on Mar 8, 2010 12:58:38 GMT -6
Several people have already sent me the site, so no further PMs are necessary. Thanks to all.
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Post by Californian on Mar 8, 2010 12:57:22 GMT -6
Why did they even take him to the hospital?
Let him croak.
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Post by Californian on Mar 8, 2010 10:04:16 GMT -6
After all the work you guys do convincing me that execution is not a type of murder you go and ruin it all by saying that your imaginary friend told you to do it. Ben, I was raised a Catholic and know the doctrine quite well, as I attended a Jesuit college. As it happens, I am now an agnostic. Let me help you here. You do great harm to your cause by describing Jesus as "imaginary." Biblical scholars generally acknowledge that he did live. Whether he was the Godhead or not is of course, debatable, as far as articles of faith, as the divinity of Jesus is, can be. Now, that said, is there anything in his life or his teachings or which you disapprove? At the very least, I think a reasonable person can see him as a brilliant Talmudic scholar, and of course, you intentionally insult those who believe he was the son of God. Rather a ham-handed post, Ben, at which you excel. It's only virtue is that is was short.
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Post by Californian on Mar 8, 2010 7:20:07 GMT -6
Which pro board were they posting on? Somebody PM me, please.
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Post by Californian on Mar 7, 2010 21:38:01 GMT -6
U.S.-Born al Qaeda Arrest News Incorrect
An "important Taliban militant" was arrested today in Pakistan. But that is where the confusion started.
Earlier it was reported by Pakistani media that intelligence agents had arrested Adam Gadahn, the American-born spokesman for al Qaeda, in an operation in the southern city of Karachi.
It was further reported by the Associated Press and Reuters that Gadahn had been arrested, sourcing security officials.
CBS News was told by sources in the Pakistan government that it was Gadahn, even after U.S. officials refused to confirm it was the California native for whom a $1 million reward has been posted.
Now, CBS News' Farhan Bokhari in Islamabad writes that earlier reports the detained individual was Gadahn proved false. According to a Pakistan security official who spoke with CBS News on condition of anonymity, the arrested individual is in fact "a Taliban militant leader who is known as Abu Yahya."
The official said evidence compiled from an interrogation of the suspect and information exchanged with U.S. officials verified the man's identify.
The reassessment only added to the confusion surrounding the arrest of a man earlier described by other unnamed Pakistani security officials as Gadahn.
"In the light of our latest information, I can say, this is not looking like Gadahn. But it is still the arrest of an important Taliban militant," said the Pakistani security official who spoke to CBS News late Sunday.
The New York Times, sourcing American and Pakistani officials, reports that the man arrested was Abu Yahya Mujahdeen Al-Adam, and describes him as an al Qaeda commander who was born in Pennsylvania.
Western diplomats in Islamabad, responding to the latest twist to this increasingly confusing saga, said the arrest is not insignificant. "Even if this is not Adam Gadahn, it is still not an unimportant development. But let's hold our breath before we come to a final conclusion. We may be groping in the dark 'til someone, especially the Pakistanis who are holding this man, agree to present him publicly," said one western diplomat in Islamabad who spoke to CBS News on condition of anonymity.
Gadahn, who is also known by various aliases (including Yahya Majadin Adams and Azzam al-Amriki), has posted videos and messages calling for the destruction of the West and for strikes against targets in the United States, the most recent surfacing today, in which he praised the U.S. Army major charged with killing 13 people in Fort Hood, Texas and urged other U.S. Muslims to use him as a role model.
Gadahn grew up on a goat farm in Riverside County, Calif., and converted to Islam at a mosque in nearby Orange County, before moving to Pakistan in 1998, where he is believed to have attended an al Qaeda training camp, and served as a translator and consultant for the group,
He is wanted by the FBI, which has posted a $1 million reward for information leading to his arrest or conviction for treason.
Reports of the arrest of Gadahn followed recent detentions of several Afghan Taliban commanders in Karachi, which have been viewed as a sign that Pakistan is cooperating more closely with Washington in its fight against insurgents.
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Post by Californian on Mar 5, 2010 20:43:24 GMT -6
And you are talking like a politician, fact it highest number of inmates, second lowest pay. You say we can go find other jobs and you are so correct but then what does that leave in charge of the inmates. That is right those that are not able to find other work and are not really very good officers, the ones that can not pass a physical test, so it was eliminated, the entrance standards have been lowered to meet the numbers. You get what you pay for and if you want crappy CO's the state is going about it the right way. I can not tell you how many veteran officers are leaving for other jobs leaving boot officers who do not know how to handle inmates. I am not and never will be a union member, however Perry makes it hard to stay out of one since it is the only group speaking for us. You might find this interesting, David. Pay and Benefits Peace Officers with the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR) receive one of the most competitive pay and benefits packages in the United States. While in the apprenticeship program, Peace Officers can expect a salary adjustment of 5 percent every 6 months until the maximum of the range is reached. Thereafter, Peace Officers can expect to receive a salary adjustment of 5 percent every 12 months until the top of that salary range has been reached. Peace Officers receive health, dental, and vision benefits. Peace Officers also earn vacation leave, sick leave, and holiday credits, and may be eligible for special educational and physical fitness incentive pay. PEACE OFFICER SALARIES Correctional Officer / Youth Correctional Officer Range A = $3,050 (This monthly rate shall apply to individuals while attending the Basic Correctional Officer Academy/Basic Correctional Juvenile Academy) Range J = $3,774 - (Successful completion of the Basic Correctional Officer Academy/Basic Correctional Juvenile Academy) Range K = $6,144 (Top step of pay scale) Youth Correctional Counselor Range A = $3,050 (This monthly rate shall apply to individuals while attending the Basic Correctional Juvenile Academy) Range J = $4,142 (Successful completion of the Basic Correctional Juvenile Academy) Range K = $6,743 (Top step of pay scale) Casework Specialist Range A = $5,188 (This monthly rate shall apply to individuals while attending the Basic Correctional Juvenile Academy) Range J = $5,447 (Successful completion of the Basic Correctional Juvenile Academy) Range K = $7,772 (Top step of pay scale) Parole Agent I Range A = $5,033 (This monthly rate shall apply to individuals while attending the Parole Agent Academy) Range J = $5,285 (Successful completion of the Parole Agent Academy) Range K = $7,437 (Top step of pay scale) PEACE OFFICER RETIREMENT Upon permanent appointment to a Peace Officer position, individuals are enrolled in the California Public Employees Retirement System (CalPERS) and become members of the State Peace Officer/Firefighter retirement category. This retirement system is one of the best in the nation. Peace Officers may retire at age 50, earning 3 percent of their salary for every year worked as a Peace Officer. Actual pension is determined based on years of service as a Peace Officer. For example, Peace Officers can retire with approximately 90 percent of their income at age 50, after 30 years of service. PEACE OFFICER BENEFITS Full Medical, Dental, and Vision Plans Sick leave accrued at a rate of 8 hours per month. May be taken for family, self, or significant others in household. Vacation Leave Vacation is accrued as follows: 7 months to 3 years state service earns 8 hours per month. 37 months to 10 years state service earns 11 hours per month. 121 months to 15 years state service earns 13 hours per month. 181 months to 20 years state service earns 14 hours per month. 241 months and over state service earns 15 hours per month. Shift Differential A shift-differential of 50 cents per hour is paid for 1st and 3rd watches (between 6pm and 6am). Uniform Replacement Allowance An allowance of $530 shall be paid to a permanent employee that wears a uniform and uniform accessories full-time. A $305 allowance is paid to a permanent employee that wears a uniform and uniform accessories part-time. Paid Holidays Compensation is paid for official state holidays. There are 13 actual official holidays. In addition, each employee receives 1 personal holiday to be used per fiscal year. Recruitment Incentive $175 per month is paid to Correctional Officers employed at Correctional Training Facility, San Quentin, and Salinas Valley State Prison. Recruitment and Retention Differential Pay An annual allotment of $2,400 will apply to persons accepting positions at Avenal, Calipatria, Centinela, Chuckawalla Valley, and Ironwood State Prisons, payable 30 days following the completion of every 12 consecutive qualifying pay periods. Bilingual Pay If state certified and recognized by the Department as utilizing bilingual skills, employee shall receive $100 per month pay differential. Education For Correctional Officers and Youth Correctional Officers: $135 per pay period is paid if employee has attained either an associate of arts degree, bachelors degree or higher, or 60 semester units (or the equivalent quarter units) from an accredited college or university. For Youth Correctional Counselors, Correctional Counselors and Parole Agents: $135 per pay period is paid if employee has attained a master's degree from an accredited college or university. Physical Fitness Incentive Pay Employees with less than five (5) years of service shall receive a flat rate of $65 per month for successfully completing the physical fitness test. Employees with more than five (5) years of service shall receive $130 per month upon successful completion of the physical fitness test. 401 (k) Plan Employees in Unit 6 are to be included in the State of California, DPA’s 401 (k) Deferred Compensation Program. For more information about benefits, please review the Contract for Bargaining Unit 6. www.cdcr.ca.gov/Career_Opportunities/POR/Pay.html
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Post by Californian on Mar 5, 2010 8:26:27 GMT -6
A grandstander. He knows better.
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Post by Californian on Mar 5, 2010 6:58:19 GMT -6
Not realizing this (or not caring because of union support for the legislators) is the reason the state of California is currently running a $21 billion annual deficit with no real plan to cure it. So I was right and Ca/Tx CAN'T afford to pay their staff properly. I don't know about Texas, Ben, because I don't live there. But I do know about California, and I can tell you that you probably won't earn as much ever as a California prison guard, not to mention a police officer or firefighter. And we're talking only base pay here, not their health and retirement benefits, which would again make you green with envy.
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Post by Californian on Mar 4, 2010 20:29:50 GMT -6
He has been bad for corrections in general, he saw to it that corrections officers did not get a much need raise. He has also not been good for Texas schools, I do not know any Gov in Texas who has really been bad on the issue of criminal justice. David: you're thinking like a union member. Surpluses in the state budget because the legislature has been frugal with the available (diminished) funds does not mean that you deserve a raise. Those funds belong to the taxpayers, not the bargaining units of state employees. (i.e., you) Remember, surpluses come and go, but raises last forever, and of course there's a cumulative effect as they increase as a percentage of salaries. This doesn't even consider the fact that pension liabilities also increase. Not realizing this (or not caring because of union support for the legislators) is the reason the state of California is currently running a $21 billion annual deficit with no real plan to cure it.
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Post by Californian on Mar 4, 2010 20:23:14 GMT -6
Arguably the most liberal state in the nation, California has the highest drop-out rate. Many of us who live in California do not consider these two facts coincidental.
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Post by Californian on Mar 4, 2010 12:38:58 GMT -6
I haven't got time to repeat the blindingly obvious to argumentative pensioners. Make a point or take the dog for a walk. I have made my point, concisely and correctly. You simply don't like the answer. Dog is fine, I'm off to the range, though.
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Post by Californian on Mar 4, 2010 12:25:28 GMT -6
Please explain why you believe this statement to be true. The country can't afford it. DEE's post is indicative of this. Sample of one from what is hardly a disinterested party. Dee is free to look for work elsewhere if he feels underpaid and underworked. Try again.
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Post by Californian on Mar 4, 2010 9:34:25 GMT -6
The U.S. has 5% of the world's people and 25% of its prisoners. That can't go on forever. Please explain why you believe this statement to be true.
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Post by Californian on Mar 3, 2010 23:13:59 GMT -6
I am wondering which style of gurney folks favor. Do you favor the type of gurney that is secured to the death chamber floor such as the one in Maryland: Eric: That's a treatment or operating table. Gurneys, by definition, have wheels.
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Post by Californian on Mar 3, 2010 23:08:04 GMT -6
Right. You're shining moment of debate was when you went on and on and on about the rights of those in high risk blood groups to become blood donors. l *Your
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Post by Californian on Mar 3, 2010 22:44:32 GMT -6
you would have realized by now that I don't suffer fools. Ah! Self-hate! That would explain why you feel the need to be an insufferable pnick all the time.
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Post by Californian on Mar 2, 2010 21:00:40 GMT -6
Hasta la vista, creep.
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Post by Californian on Mar 2, 2010 18:26:07 GMT -6
Actually, it says nothing about how much help this particular group is getting from "free people". If you go to the group's website, they don't even solicit help from "free people" except to ask them to ask their prisoner friends to join the effort. I'm sure they need at least one free person to run their website, but the website is simple enough that that may well be all they have. They embarrass you, don't they, Katie?
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Post by Californian on Mar 2, 2010 10:25:00 GMT -6
George Clemenceau must have thought of you when he said: "America is the only nation in history which miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of civilization." He also said "Military justice is to justice what military music is to music." ;D
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Post by Californian on Mar 2, 2010 8:30:33 GMT -6
Oh, come on. The group is comprised solely of PRISONERS. I'd betcha they're not the variety that are just serving a few years for a lower-level felony, either. Of course they're going to be against LWOP. Are they really a threat? THIS group may be, but others are not. Go over to PTO or CCRAP and see. PTO has a section devoted specifically to these loonies.
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