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Post by dennis25 on Apr 21, 2006 6:33:24 GMT -6
Yes, I'm making that up ? Did I say otherwise ?? No, I didn't, I just said what I want murder to mean. LOL! What you want it to mean? Yes ! And what is so funny about that ? The law is wrong to me and I'm right.
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Post by D.E.E. on Apr 21, 2006 9:52:08 GMT -6
jennaleigh Simple, it's the deliberately killing of another human being So is a police officer killing someone who is in the commission of a crime, is that also then murder? A soldier who is on the battle field and kills an enemy who is trying to kill him is that murder? There are lots of occasions that the deliberate killing of another does not constitute murder.
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Post by D.E.E. on Apr 21, 2006 9:56:19 GMT -6
Allison, I'm not using a dictionary but I said what murder is to me and what I like to see in the dictionary I want to see the word unlawfully be replaced by the word deliberatelyAs that makes execution murder too and that's what it's to me. So in other words you believe that just because you want it to be something that makes it right? If that were the case then a lot of crimes would be right because the person doing them believes it should be legal. The DP is not murder no matter how much you want it to be.
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Post by dennis25 on Apr 21, 2006 16:19:54 GMT -6
jennaleigh Simple, it's the deliberately killing of another human being So is a police officer killing someone who is in the commission of a crime, is that also then murder? A soldier who is on the battle field and kills an enemy who is trying to kill him is that murder? There are lots of occasions that the deliberate killing of another does not constitute murder. killing in self defense or the defense of another person is ok.
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Post by dennis25 on Apr 21, 2006 16:20:57 GMT -6
Allison, I'm not using a dictionary but I said what murder is to me and what I like to see in the dictionary I want to see the word unlawfully be replaced by the word deliberatelyAs that makes execution murder too and that's what it's to me. So in other words you believe that just because you want it to be something that makes it right? If that were the case then a lot of crimes would be right because the person doing them believes it should be legal. The DP is not murder no matter how much you want it to be. Yes, I believe it because I want it to be that way. The DP is murder to me.
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Post by onetwobomb on Apr 21, 2006 18:42:59 GMT -6
LOL! What you want it to mean? Yes ! And what is so funny about that ? The law is wrong to me and I'm right. LMAO you're such a looney who's trolling.
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Post by dennis25 on Apr 22, 2006 7:27:58 GMT -6
Yes ! And what is so funny about that ? The law is wrong to me and I'm right. LMAO you're such a looney who's trolling. I'll accept you saying that. You're just 16. When I was 16, I was a rabid pro like I told here before, but when you get older you will add more brain cells and will become a weak anti. Even you will become happy one day and become an anti, cuzz of that. ;D ;D
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Post by onetwobomb on Apr 22, 2006 15:47:48 GMT -6
LMAO you're such a looney who's trolling. I'll accept you saying that. You're just 16. When I was 16, I was a rabid pro like I told here before, but when you get older you will add more brain cells and will become a weak anti. Even you will become happy one day and become an anti, cuzz of that. ;D ;D I highly doubt that. I've been a pro ever since I was 5 when the Oklahoma City bombing happened. Most of my friends are pros. My church is pro. I doubt I'll ever change, especially as long as I stay on this great site. This site has made me an even stronger pro, after finding out about all these horrorible stories and meeting all these MVS. Dennis, I have a feeling you became an anti after going to college with all those liberal professors. I also have a feeling you may become a stronger pro once you graduate and start working.
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Post by dennis25 on Apr 24, 2006 6:36:55 GMT -6
I'll accept you saying that. You're just 16. When I was 16, I was a rabid pro like I told here before, but when you get older you will add more brain cells and will become a weak anti. Even you will become happy one day and become an anti, cuzz of that. ;D ;D I highly doubt that. I've been a pro ever since I was 5 when the Oklahoma City bombing happened. Most of my friends are pros. My church is pro. I doubt I'll ever change, especially as long as I stay on this great site. This site has made me an even stronger pro, after finding out about all these horrorible stories and meeting all these MVS. Dennis, I have a feeling you became an anti after going to college with all those liberal professors. I also have a feeling you may become a stronger pro once you graduate and start working. Timothy McVeigh killed 20 + people, was not co-operating with LE and he was rightfully executed. If he cooperated with LE, apologized, I'd turn the DP into LWOP for him.
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Post by dennis25 on Apr 24, 2006 6:39:19 GMT -6
I became an anti since I've been in The Netherlands. College mad me move from rabid pro to the fence. I already graduated at RIT and have my Bachelors degree. What I'm doing in A'dam is additional. I work 10 hours a week, because I'm not allowed to work more hours on a Dutch student visa. I actually don't need to work at all if I don't want to
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Post by spur on Apr 24, 2006 9:09:21 GMT -6
I highly doubt that. I've been a pro ever since I was 5 when the Oklahoma City bombing happened. Most of my friends are pros. My church is pro. I doubt I'll ever change, especially as long as I stay on this great site. This site has made me an even stronger pro, after finding out about all these horrorible stories and meeting all these MVS. Dennis, I have a feeling you became an anti after going to college with all those liberal professors. I also have a feeling you may become a stronger pro once you graduate and start working. Timothy McVeigh killed 20 + people, was not co-operating with LE and he was rightfully executed. If he cooperated with LE, apologized, I'd turn the DP into LWOP for him. 20+ people? ....very close there Dennis....try 168 people.
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Post by spur on Apr 24, 2006 9:11:49 GMT -6
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Post by Elric of Melnibone on Apr 24, 2006 9:20:48 GMT -6
And many of those killed were children.
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Post by dennis25 on Apr 24, 2006 9:20:49 GMT -6
Timothy McVeigh killed 20 + people, was not co-operating with LE and he was rightfully executed. If he cooperated with LE, apologized, I'd turn the DP into LWOP for him. 20+ people? ....very close there Dennis....try 168 people. I know !!!! But 168 is more than 20 isn't it ? For if you didn't know : " 20 is the number I use in my penalty structure" Many here know that !
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Post by spur on Apr 24, 2006 9:34:47 GMT -6
20+ people? ....very close there Dennis....try 168 people. I know !!!! But 168 is more than 20 isn't it ? For if you didn't know : " 20 is the number I use in my penalty structure" Many here know that ! Its hard to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man...you got me there Dennis
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Post by dennis25 on Apr 24, 2006 9:39:40 GMT -6
And many of those killed were children. I know, he placed the truck right under a room filled with children. It's fine that McVeigh was executed, but if he was given LWOP, it was fine with me too.
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Post by spur on Apr 24, 2006 9:43:42 GMT -6
And many of those killed were children. I know, he placed the truck right under a room filled with children. It's fine that McVeigh was executed, but if he was given LWOP, it was fine with me too. In other words you don't give a $hit either way and are too weak to have a stance or opinion because it didn't personally affect Dennis or his little world.
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Post by Elric of Melnibone on Apr 24, 2006 9:52:04 GMT -6
I do not like the fact that executions are behind the walls of the prison. We should hold them out front of the courthouse in the county where the crime happend and hang them at 2PM...
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Post by dennis25 on Apr 24, 2006 10:02:04 GMT -6
I do not like the fact that executions are behind the walls of the prison. We should hold them out front of the courthouse in the county where the crime happend and hang them at 2PM... Yes, and give little kids that happend to be walking there, nightmares.
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Post by dennis25 on Apr 24, 2006 10:02:51 GMT -6
I know, he placed the truck right under a room filled with children. It's fine that McVeigh was executed, but if he was given LWOP, it was fine with me too. In other words you don't give a $hit either way and are too weak to have a stance or opinion because it didn't personally affect Dennis or his little world. I have a stance, I have an opinion and it's all written in my penalty structure I made on my website.
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Post by josephdphillips on Apr 24, 2006 10:24:54 GMT -6
I do not like the fact that executions are behind the walls of the prison. We should hold them out front of the courthouse in the county where the crime happend and hang them at 2 PM... How about during a Dodger game, during the 7th inning stretch? Beats watching the Dodgers. Seriously, I favor public executions, even if they end up killing capital punishment.
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Post by Elric of Melnibone on Apr 24, 2006 10:46:32 GMT -6
I like pittsburgh. The two pm comment is so people can eat something first. And Denis, most kids in the US are in school at 2pm...
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Post by dennis25 on Apr 24, 2006 10:48:34 GMT -6
I like pittsburgh. The two pm comment is so people can eat something first. And Denis, most kids in the US are in school at 2pm... Yes, most, but not all
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Post by Elric of Melnibone on Apr 24, 2006 11:02:56 GMT -6
Unless they are sick or something...but in public is a good thing.
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Post by onetwobomb on Apr 24, 2006 20:09:53 GMT -6
And many of those killed were children. I know, he placed the truck right under a room filled with children. It's fine that McVeigh was executed, but if he was given LWOP, it was fine with me too. But dennis, he was only executed for the murder of 8 federal employees. That's the problem with your system. No one has been executed for 20+ murders. Besides McVeigh being executed for 8 murders, Gacy killed 33 people, but was only executed on 12 counts. Gerald Stano killed 41 people, but was executed on 1 count. Bundy was estimated to have killed 100 people, but was only convicted of 3 counts and executed on 1. Pee Wee Gaskins admitted to about 110 murders, but was only executed for the murder of another prisoner. The person who was executed on the most counts was Ronald Gene Simmons, who was executed on 16 counts. On death row right now, Randy Kraft was convicted of 16 murders but suspected of 51 others. So actually, according to your system, neither McVeigh nor any other of the aforementioned murderers should have gotten the DP. In fact, McVeigh should be released when he's 80.
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Post by dennis25 on Apr 25, 2006 2:35:22 GMT -6
onetwo,
I've to admit that you know very much on the topic for your age. I'm just wondering where you get all the knowledge from ( a positive tihng ), but at the age of 16, I wasn't worrying to much about the DP. I was a rabid pro, but spent my time more on hitting on girls, school thna on an issue like the DP.
About McVeigh:
We all know that he killed 168 people, so there's no need to let him leave if he was just only sentenced for killing 8 federal employees. He was not sorry for what he did, he didn't apologize, he didn't coopereate with the investigation, so we rightfully executed him. However, if he really showed remorse, he could be given LWOP, but not released at the age of 80, cuz we all know he killed 168 people.
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Post by D.E.E. on Apr 25, 2006 12:16:41 GMT -6
LMAO you're such a looney who's trolling. I'll accept you saying that. You're just 16. When I was 16, I was a rabid pro like I told here before, but when you get older you will add more brain cells and will become a weak anti. Even you will become happy one day and become an anti, cuzz of that. ;D ;D Judging from you post you have not made it to 16 yet.
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Post by D.E.E. on Apr 25, 2006 12:18:40 GMT -6
So in other words you believe that just because you want it to be something that makes it right? If that were the case then a lot of crimes would be right because the person doing them believes it should be legal. The DP is not murder no matter how much you want it to be. Yes, I believe it because I want it to be that way. The DP is murder to me. You want the moon to be green cheese that does not make it so. You can even say that the moon is made of green cheese but it still is not just like the DP is not murder.
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Post by dennis25 on Apr 25, 2006 15:03:24 GMT -6
Yes, I believe it because I want it to be that way. The DP is murder to me. You want the moon to be green cheese that does not make it so. You can even say that the moon is made of green cheese but it still is not just like the DP is not murder. no, I just want execution to be murder, nothing more.
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Post by D.E.E. on Apr 25, 2006 17:48:29 GMT -6
You want the moon to be green cheese that does not make it so. You can even say that the moon is made of green cheese but it still is not just like the DP is not murder. no, I just want execution to be murder, nothing more. Too bad we don't always get our wants. Think of all the MVS's that did not want murder to happen at all. So it looks like you are still wrong and you still ain't getting your want.
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