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Post by D.E.E. on Jan 2, 2009 21:04:12 GMT -6
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Post by me1 on Jan 3, 2009 1:00:56 GMT -6
You keep stating that, now prove it. While it may well be true in England it is not in Texas. I do not know English law well enough to say I am ignorant of the English judicial system. I do know Texas well enough to know that in the prison I work in none are there for misdemenors. In every state in the U.S., state prisons are solely for felons. Misdemeanants serve their sentences in a county jail. Some low-power felons with sentences of less than a year serve county time, as well. There was a transexual serving 3 months in San Quentin on that docu i posted Bob. That was obviously a misdemeanor.
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Post by me1 on Jan 3, 2009 1:04:44 GMT -6
Might have happened years ago, but he stole from my mother, from my other 2 brothers and from me. He didn't take drugs, he used it for drink. He stole my 18th birthday money too. A lot of people have asked me why I don't forgive him, but I was the only child still living with my mother when he did what he did to her. He was her first-born and she loved him the most and he totally betrayed her, stole from her and assaulted her. He took advatage of her when she was at her lowest - my father had been killed in a car accident just 8 months previously. I was the one who called the police and testified against him in the Sheriff Court. He is nothing to me. He is my brother by blood, but not by love. I did not take my hatred for him out on his family though. I am still very close to his ex-wife and his children. I cannot blame them for his actions and I refuse to do so. You might think I am hard, but I cannot put into words the agony of watching my mother lying on the ground with a huge lump or her head from where he had kicked her. And this was her son. There is a school of thought that you should never steal from family as they will always help you if they can. My oldest brother believed we were all a soft touch and disrespected us all. I wouldn't spit on my brother if he was on fire Andy, in fact I would probably add petrol to the flames. My mother was never the same after that incident - she died 10 years later still suffering from his kicks to her head. I am sorry you went through that and I completely understand your attitude. I believe if more family members had this attitude there would be less crime. How can you ever hope to get a prison running smoothly when you keep up this "us verses them" attitude? It's not going to get you anywhere.
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Post by Bull on Jan 3, 2009 2:50:20 GMT -6
In every state in the U.S., state prisons are solely for felons. Misdemeanants serve their sentences in a county jail. Some low-power felons with sentences of less than a year serve county time, as well. There was a transexual serving 3 months in San Quentin on that docu i posted Bob. That was obviously a misdemeanor. or, it was obviously a mistake on the part of the television..... oops wait, THAT never happens.
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Post by Bull on Jan 3, 2009 2:52:11 GMT -6
I am sorry you went through that and I completely understand your attitude. I believe if more family members had this attitude there would be less crime. How can you ever hope to get a prison running smoothly when you keep up this "us verses them" attitude? It's not going to get you anywhere. That is the ONLY attitude that will get you anywhere in prison.... I am not working WITH them. They are not working WITH me. Go to a real prison sometime and you will see. Otherwise stay in your fantasy world.
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Post by me1 on Jan 3, 2009 3:29:49 GMT -6
Well then stop complaining when they spear, dart and stab you. Treat them like scum and they will react accordingly.
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Post by clairew on Jan 3, 2009 3:54:34 GMT -6
No I just think thats him ;D
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Post by me1 on Jan 3, 2009 4:14:33 GMT -6
There was a transexual serving 3 months in San Quentin on that docu i posted Bob. That was obviously a misdemeanor. or, it was obviously a mistake on the part of the television..... oops wait, THAT never happens. How can it be a mistake when the words came from the inmates mouth?
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Post by mike5 on Jan 3, 2009 7:51:38 GMT -6
While on parole from prison, he violated the terms of his parole, and was returned to prison for 90 days.
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Post by D.E.E. on Jan 3, 2009 7:52:23 GMT -6
or, it was obviously a mistake on the part of the television..... oops wait, THAT never happens. How can it be a mistake when the words came from the inmates mouth? Yea you are right how stupid of me, of course it has to be true if an inmate said it.
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Post by D.E.E. on Jan 3, 2009 7:57:06 GMT -6
Well then stop complaining when they spear, dart and stab you. Treat them like scum and they will react accordingly. We do not treat them as scum, you have once again failed to read or to understand, not unexpected from you. They are treated as they act, those that act like humans are treated as such, those that act like dangerous animals are also treated as such. Dang boy you are dumb the sad part is you wish to remain that way.
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Post by D.E.E. on Jan 3, 2009 8:00:22 GMT -6
While on parole from prison, he violated the terms of his parole, and was returned to prison for 90 days. mike mike mike you just don't understand the inmate said it so it has to be true. His original offense does not count you know that he is in prison not for violating the terms of a felony parole he is there because he violated a misdemenor. Trust Andy he is very knowledgable of the US prison system, after all he has seen a tv show on it.
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Post by Felix2 on Jan 3, 2009 8:07:34 GMT -6
It shows one thing, Andy si currently getting value for money from his dealer judging by the effects of the product on his brain.
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Post by mike5 on Jan 3, 2009 8:31:19 GMT -6
While on parole from prison, he violated the terms of his parole, and was returned to prison for 90 days. mike mike mike you just don't understand the inmate said it so it has to be true. His original offense does not count you know that he is in prison not for violating the terms of a felony parole he is there because he violated a misdemenor. Trust Andy he is very knowledgable of the US prison system, after all he has seen a tv show on it. The mother of all parole conditions is OBEY ALL LAWS. So, if he picked up a misdemeanor while on the outside, he violated his parole.
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Post by mike5 on Jan 3, 2009 8:35:51 GMT -6
And there has been a lot of whining about parole violations in California. Recidivism is high and the thug lovers are complaining that they violate too many people. The parole conditions are not that onerous and they don't violate everyone off the bat, i.e., you have to test dirty several times, etc.
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Post by D.E.E. on Jan 3, 2009 8:45:37 GMT -6
mike mike mike you just don't understand the inmate said it so it has to be true. His original offense does not count you know that he is in prison not for violating the terms of a felony parole he is there because he violated a misdemenor. Trust Andy he is very knowledgable of the US prison system, after all he has seen a tv show on it. The mother of all parole conditions is OBEY ALL LAWS. So, if he picked up a misdemeanor while on the outside, he violated his parole. Do you know how to tell when an inmate is lying? His lips are moving. I know he violated the terms of his parole and that was why he was returned to prison. Andy however has seen a tv show that claimed to be a documentary and is therefore an expert on US prisons. At least in Andy's druged up mind he thinks he knows what he is talking about even when it is pointed out by several people that he is wrong.
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Post by mike5 on Jan 3, 2009 9:08:31 GMT -6
All europeans are experts in all things American. At least, that is what they keep telling us.
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Post by Californian on Jan 3, 2009 9:27:10 GMT -6
In every state in the U.S., state prisons are solely for felons. Misdemeanants serve their sentences in a county jail. Some low-power felons with sentences of less than a year serve county time, as well. There was a transexual serving 3 months in San Quentin on that docu i posted Bob. That was obviously a misdemeanor. No, afraid not. It was probably a parole violation in which a paroled offended violated his parole and was returned to prison for a while. Also, just because a determinate sentence to state prison says a year or more doesn't mean that's what they serve. Some can be released early on "shock parole" or similar programs.
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Post by me1 on Jan 3, 2009 11:55:55 GMT -6
How can it be a mistake when the words came from the inmates mouth? Yea you are right how stupid of me, of course it has to be true if an inmate said it. The same inmate was filmed going through reception on release. Watch the damn show. I know you say your computer can't handle it but you are wrong. Watch it on you tube.
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Post by me1 on Jan 3, 2009 11:58:10 GMT -6
Well then stop complaining when they spear, dart and stab you. Treat them like scum and they will react accordingly. We do not treat them as scum, you have once again failed to read or to understand, not unexpected from you. They are treated as they act, those that act like humans are treated as such, those that act like dangerous animals are also treated as such. Dang boy you are dumb the sad part is you wish to remain that way. I don't want to be educated by a correctional officer thats all. Hardly the brightest characters god put on the earth. You said in a previous post that you considered all inmates "scum". Surely that means you treat them as such?
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Post by me1 on Jan 3, 2009 12:01:02 GMT -6
mike mike mike you just don't understand the inmate said it so it has to be true. His original offense does not count you know that he is in prison not for violating the terms of a felony parole he is there because he violated a misdemenor. Trust Andy he is very knowledgable of the US prison system, after all he has seen a tv show on it. The mother of all parole conditions is OBEY ALL LAWS. So, if he picked up a misdemeanor while on the outside, he violated his parole. The vast majority of white inmates were actually there for parole violations. That could mean something as small as swearing at a police officer etc.
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Post by me1 on Jan 3, 2009 12:02:55 GMT -6
The mother of all parole conditions is OBEY ALL LAWS. So, if he picked up a misdemeanor while on the outside, he violated his parole. Do you know how to tell when an inmate is lying? His lips are moving. I know he violated the terms of his parole and that was why he was returned to prison. Andy however has seen a tv show that claimed to be a documentary and is therefore an expert on US prisons. At least in Andy's druged up mind he thinks he knows what he is talking about even when it is pointed out by several people that he is wrong. Louis Theroux was the guy interviewing the inmates. He's a highly respected journalist. This was'nt some crap like NSBC lock up. Notice at the end of the docu theres a fat guy in a cage awaiting release and he wines to Louis that he's been in a cell for 2 years with no human contact, no sunlight and no excersize. Louis like "yeah whatever", and gives him no more airtime.
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Post by Felix2 on Jan 3, 2009 13:13:34 GMT -6
We do not treat them as scum, you have once again failed to read or to understand, not unexpected from you. They are treated as they act, those that act like humans are treated as such, those that act like dangerous animals are also treated as such. Dang boy you are dumb the sad part is you wish to remain that way. I don't want to be educated by a correctional officer thats all. Hardly the brightest characters god put on the earth. You said in a previous post that you considered all inmates "scum". Surely that means you treat them as such? How screwed up are you? I think its kind of DEE to be willing to try to educate scum and am surprised you dont think so (not)! Much like the way you are surprised what I think of criminal scaum andy, you think I should adore the lovelies just because my job bring me into contact with them? Fook that for a game of non sense!
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Post by mike5 on Jan 3, 2009 16:59:10 GMT -6
The mother of all parole conditions is OBEY ALL LAWS. So, if he picked up a misdemeanor while on the outside, he violated his parole. The vast majority of white inmates were actually there for parole violations. That could mean something as small as swearing at a police officer etc. Uh, no. Criminal threats, yes. Swearing, no.
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Post by D.E.E. on Jan 3, 2009 19:56:04 GMT -6
Yea you are right how stupid of me, of course it has to be true if an inmate said it. The same inmate was filmed going through reception on release. Watch the damn show. I know you say your computer can't handle it but you are wrong. Watch it on you tube. Oh my computer can handle it with no problem, however with very slow dial up it takes over 15 minutes to watch a single utube clip. Now I can see like one second then wait for a few minutes and see like 5 seconds and so on, get the picture. I do not need to see the video, I know full well what the law says. Not a single one is in prison for a misdemeanor, they may be there for violating their parole by committing a misdemeanor but they are there for violating their parole. I know you are a bit of a criminal yourself (hell a lot more than a bit), but even the most unintelligent con knows that if they break the law while on parole they are coming back. It does not matter what the law is just that they broke it. That is what parole is, free as long as you obey the law, break it and you may finish your sentence or at least do a little more time.
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Post by D.E.E. on Jan 3, 2009 20:02:04 GMT -6
We do not treat them as scum, you have once again failed to read or to understand, not unexpected from you. They are treated as they act, those that act like humans are treated as such, those that act like dangerous animals are also treated as such. Dang boy you are dumb the sad part is you wish to remain that way. I don't want to be educated by a correctional officer thats all. Hardly the brightest characters god put on the earth. You said in a previous post that you considered all inmates "scum". Surely that means you treat them as such? Since several people who are not correctional officers have tried to educate you with no sucess then I am quite sure you are not among the brightes characters anywhere. I consider them scum, but I treat them as required by my job, that is what a professional does. Now I understand that a junkie who has never had a profession get confused at professional practices but never the less that is the way it is done. Now you have been told this over and over by several people, either you know it and are trying (with out success) to get to me, or you are just stupid. I am going with stupid. I see no reason to respond to you again on this topic since it is just a stupid junkie who can not or will not be educated who is trying to get me to respond.
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Post by Grey on Jan 3, 2009 22:48:26 GMT -6
I don't want to be educated by a correctional officer thats all. Hardly the brightest characters god put on the earth. You said in a previous post that you considered all inmates "scum". Surely that means you treat them as such? Since several people who are not correctional officers have tried to educate you with no sucess then I am quite sure you are not among the brightes characters anywhere. I consider them scum, but I treat them as required by my job, that is what a professional does. Now I understand that a junkie who has never had a profession get confused at professional practices but never the less that is the way it is done. Now you have been told this over and over by several people, either you know it and are trying (with out success) to get to me, or you are just stupid. I am going with stupid. I see no reason to respond to you again on this topic since it is just a stupid junkie who can not or will not be educated who is trying to get me to respond. Well he got rid of his account so, there really is no point in trying to educate someone who doesn't even bother, apparently according to heroin him, people who work in careers don't know what they are talking about.
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Post by mel77 on Jan 5, 2009 2:57:05 GMT -6
He'll be back.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2009 3:02:04 GMT -6
Nahh I sort of made it harder for him to rejoin after he deleted his account, but if he does I will just reban him.
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Post by Felix2 on Jan 5, 2009 3:09:34 GMT -6
Nahh I sort of made it harder for him to rejoin after he deleted his account, but if he does I will just reban him. I was kinda hoping the knob would be back, its fun making him cringe, the worthless mother foucker!
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