gillypod
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Post by gillypod on Dec 31, 2008 13:56:12 GMT -6
Might have happened years ago, but he stole from my mother, from my other 2 brothers and from me. He didn't take drugs, he used it for drink. He stole my 18th birthday money too. A lot of people have asked me why I don't forgive him, but I was the only child still living with my mother when he did what he did to her. He was her first-born and she loved him the most and he totally betrayed her, stole from her and assaulted her. He took advatage of her when she was at her lowest - my father had been killed in a car accident just 8 months previously. I was the one who called the police and testified against him in the Sheriff Court. He is nothing to me. He is my brother by blood, but not by love. I did not take my hatred for him out on his family though. I am still very close to his ex-wife and his children. I cannot blame them for his actions and I refuse to do so. You might think I am hard, but I cannot put into words the agony of watching my mother lying on the ground with a huge lump or her head from where he had kicked her. And this was her son. There is a school of thought that you should never steal from family as they will always help you if they can. My oldest brother believed we were all a soft touch and disrespected us all. I wouldn't spit on my brother if he was on fire Andy, in fact I would probably add petrol to the flames. My mother was never the same after that incident - she died 10 years later still suffering from his kicks to her head. Oh goodness, gilly! I'm so very sorry to hear this. No wonder you feel the way you do and rightly so. I hope you've found a better place in life. Best to you. Thanks Lotus for your kind words. I am fine about it now - I just thought it was a good example of how a victim feels. It was a long time ago, and one of my brothers actually still keeps in touch with him. He is supposed to have totally reformed and now runs a business, but I couldn't care less. He damaged my mother for life and that is something I will never forgive. PS - it will be 2009 in 4 hours in the UK - you have a good one.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2008 14:34:46 GMT -6
Oh goodness, gilly! I'm so very sorry to hear this. No wonder you feel the way you do and rightly so. I hope you've found a better place in life. Best to you. Thanks Lotus for your kind words. I am fine about it now - I just thought it was a good example of how a victim feels. It was a long time ago, and one of my brothers actually still keeps in touch with him. He is supposed to have totally reformed and now runs a business, but I couldn't care less. He damaged my mother for life and that is something I will never forgive. PS - it will be 2009 in 4 hours in the UK - you have a good one. Gillypod, I too am so very sorry for all your mother and you have gone through. It is no surprise that you are so understanding of the feelings of someone who survives what violent criminals have done. The trauma that is inflicted will never be forgotten. Good for you for learning to go on through it all in your own way that is right for you. May your Mom rest in peace, bless her heart. And I wish you a very Happy New Year with many joys and blessings.
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gillypod
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Post by gillypod on Dec 31, 2008 17:31:44 GMT -6
And you my sweet
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Post by Lotus Flower on Dec 31, 2008 23:03:20 GMT -6
Oh goodness, gilly! I'm so very sorry to hear this. No wonder you feel the way you do and rightly so. I hope you've found a better place in life. Best to you. Thanks Lotus for your kind words. I am fine about it now - I just thought it was a good example of how a victim feels. It was a long time ago, and one of my brothers actually still keeps in touch with him. He is supposed to have totally reformed and now runs a business, but I couldn't care less. He damaged my mother for life and that is something I will never forgive. PS - it will be 2009 in 4 hours in the UK - you have a good one. You too, sweetcheeks! I really admire strong women who don't play the poor-me card but hold themselves and others accountable. So glad you're here.
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Post by Grey on Jan 1, 2009 12:29:10 GMT -6
Strange we are talking about this actually there was a woman on GMTV yesterday who reported her 2 sons for assaulting a man in a pub and they were jailed for 3 years. Nobody speaks to her now, she lost her family and her friends but the public say she did the right thing. Hells yeah she did the right thing. Frack I don't care family up or down if they do something illegal you can bet that I would turn them in, AND (although due to conflict of intrest) when I become a prosecutor and a family member did something bad I'd prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. If they don't talk to me I could care less because I won't be talking to them.
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Post by me1 on Jan 1, 2009 12:59:09 GMT -6
Bloody elle Andie! I would keep quiet and say i know nothing. I'm not saying thats right it's just the way i am.
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Post by mel77 on Jan 1, 2009 13:08:21 GMT -6
If my brother were to physically attack my mom, you bet I would report him. How could I possibly not do so?
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Post by Grey on Jan 1, 2009 13:38:54 GMT -6
Bloody elle Andie! I would keep quiet and say i know nothing. I'm not saying thats right it's just the way i am. So if you knew someone say a family member who murdered an innocent person, you wouldn't say anything to the police?
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Post by me1 on Jan 1, 2009 14:02:22 GMT -6
No. That would mean you lose your family member for life.
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Post by me1 on Jan 1, 2009 14:03:47 GMT -6
If my brother were to physically attack my mom, you bet I would report him. How could I possibly not do so? Sisters love to tell on their brothers. My sister was always grassing me up to my mum when we were kids. ;D
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Post by Grey on Jan 1, 2009 14:47:33 GMT -6
If my brother were to physically attack my mom, you bet I would report him. How could I possibly not do so? Sisters love to tell on their brothers. My sister was always grassing me up to my mum when we were kids. ;D Did you have a change of heart on smilies or you sick of using lol
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Post by me1 on Jan 1, 2009 15:32:55 GMT -6
Don't mind these ones it's those sideways grins that do my head in, lol.
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Post by Grey on Jan 1, 2009 20:30:25 GMT -6
No. That would mean you lose your family member for life. So you would rather obstruct justice then turn in a murderer?
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Post by Lady on Jan 2, 2009 0:36:32 GMT -6
They can and do break the cuffs, slip the cuffs, and they pick the lock on the cuffs. You should also think before you write. You are really struggling to come up with something there DEE. Break the cuffs, slip the cuffs, pick the lock? Who do you think they are? Houdini? I know in my state they are shackled and chained, but if an inmate is determined enough, he can pick a lock and free himself ,because I seen it done . It was done right in front of me on visiting day on death row about 3 yrs ago ,when the DR inmates was still at Manci . At that time visiting was in booth separated by glass, but there was no cameras in the visiting area .He uncuffed himself for the visit and then cuffed himself back up before they came to return him to the pod at the end of the visit .
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Post by clairew on Jan 2, 2009 1:44:48 GMT -6
Might have happened years ago, but he stole from my mother, from my other 2 brothers and from me. He didn't take drugs, he used it for drink. He stole my 18th birthday money too. A lot of people have asked me why I don't forgive him, but I was the only child still living with my mother when he did what he did to her. He was her first-born and she loved him the most and he totally betrayed her, stole from her and assaulted her. He took advatage of her when she was at her lowest - my father had been killed in a car accident just 8 months previously. I was the one who called the police and testified against him in the Sheriff Court. He is nothing to me. He is my brother by blood, but not by love. I did not take my hatred for him out on his family though. I am still very close to his ex-wife and his children. I cannot blame them for his actions and I refuse to do so. You might think I am hard, but I cannot put into words the agony of watching my mother lying on the ground with a huge lump or her head from where he had kicked her. And this was her son. There is a school of thought that you should never steal from family as they will always help you if they can. My oldest brother believed we were all a soft touch and disrespected us all. I wouldn't spit on my brother if he was on fire Andy, in fact I would probably add petrol to the flames. My mother was never the same after that incident - she died 10 years later still suffering from his kicks to her head. OMG I am so sorry gilly. I can understand your reasons for not speaking to your brother, I would feel the same
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gillypod
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Post by gillypod on Jan 2, 2009 2:54:56 GMT -6
Thanks Claire. It is now long ago and far away, but I think it is one of the reasons I support the DP the way I do. I hate mindless violence and I will always remember how I felt to watch my brother do what he did and the damage it left behind.
I once discussed with a friend whether we would report our children if they did a henious crime, and I really believe that I would.
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Post by mel77 on Jan 2, 2009 4:05:06 GMT -6
If my brother were to physically attack my mom, you bet I would report him. How could I possibly not do so? Sisters love to tell on their brothers. My sister was always grassing me up to my mum when we were kids. ;D You are really are an idiot. You would let someone get away with attacking your own mother just because they were a family member of yours. Use your brain a little. What does that say about how much your mother meant to you if you did nothing?
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Post by me1 on Jan 2, 2009 5:01:35 GMT -6
It would be up to my mum to report it. Shes got a mouth of her own.
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Post by gillypod on Jan 2, 2009 5:17:36 GMT -6
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Post by me1 on Jan 2, 2009 6:07:22 GMT -6
I know my family would'nt do nasty things to each other thats the thing Gilly lol. I was called devils advocate on youtube, what does that mean?
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Post by Kay on Jan 2, 2009 6:15:03 GMT -6
Do you really think, he's trying to wind people up, Gilly, I think he's quite serious. And I did have my oldest son arrested when he was a juvenile for fighting, and asked the parents of the other boy that he assaulted to press charges. He is now a responsible adult, and understands why we took that action.
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Post by me1 on Jan 2, 2009 6:16:27 GMT -6
But is'nt that just playground fights? Why would you want to potentially ruin his future career opotunities by getting him a criminal record?
After reading what you lot have said my mum does'nt seem so bad after all. She got me arrested at 16 for breaking her front door window in a row and she had me charged for stealing my own stereo to pay for drugs back in the 90's.
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Post by Kay on Jan 2, 2009 6:20:10 GMT -6
But is'nt that just playground fights? Why would you want to potentially ruin his future career opotunities by getting him a criminal record? No, it was much more serious than that, I also caught him using drugs and threatened arrest for that. And he was a juvenile, so his record is sealed. His arrest, probation and time served at an alternative school for 3 months was the turning point for him, he needed a wake up call, and we loved him enough to follow through and make him tow the line.
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Post by me1 on Jan 2, 2009 6:27:44 GMT -6
Pleased it worked out for you. Sometimes it can work the other way and your kids become distant from you and run away. Then they end up in all sorts of trouble.
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Post by D.E.E. on Jan 2, 2009 20:27:00 GMT -6
You have to be a certain type to get a buzz from locking people up all day Mel. DEE is one of those guys that likes to feel he is in control of those around him and that he is smarter and of a higher social standing than them. Thats why he's a CO. I wish he would'nt put all cons into the same category they are all individuals who are in the joint for various reasons. You are right of course they are all in the joint for a variety of reasons, murder, rape, child molestation, armed robbery, aggervated assault, and a whole list of crimes. I do not have a single inmate that is there for misdemenors, that I know of. Some drunk drivers do go to prison, but that is usually state jail since it is less than 3 years. i do not get a buzz from locking them up, I am however of a higher social order as I have not done the things they do. As for what I said to mel, not much in the way of excuse but I had a bad day at work that day, something about having a CO assaulted (no doubt by one of those misdemenor cases) several Officers chunked on and just an all around bad day. It is why I usually do not post on days I work, I come home to unwind not hear a criminal excuse other criminals so I should never read Andys crap on days I work.
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Post by D.E.E. on Jan 2, 2009 20:32:18 GMT -6
Kay i know you had din dins with Dave but thats hardly the same as knowing the guy is it? He seems ok but i don't like it when he says they are all scum. Some are in there for minor misdemeanors. You keep stating that, now prove it. While it may well be true in England it is not in Texas. I do not know English law well enough to say I am ignorant of the English judicial system. I do know Texas well enough to know that in the prison I work in none are there for misdemenors.
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Post by Californian on Jan 2, 2009 20:46:38 GMT -6
Kay i know you had din dins with Dave but thats hardly the same as knowing the guy is it? He seems ok but i don't like it when he says they are all scum. Some are in there for minor misdemeanors. You keep stating that, now prove it. While it may well be true in England it is not in Texas. I do not know English law well enough to say I am ignorant of the English judicial system. I do know Texas well enough to know that in the prison I work in none are there for misdemenors. In every state in the U.S., state prisons are solely for felons. Misdemeanants serve their sentences in a county jail. Some low-power felons with sentences of less than a year serve county time, as well.
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Post by D.E.E. on Jan 2, 2009 20:47:02 GMT -6
They can and do break the cuffs, slip the cuffs, and they pick the lock on the cuffs. You should also think before you write. You are really struggling to come up with something there DEE. Break the cuffs, slip the cuffs, pick the lock? Who do you think they are? Houdini? Happens all the time, a few days back an officer on my shift was attacked by an inmate he was escorting who had slipped his cuffs, he was double jointed and his hands slipped through the cuffs. Our cuffs are old and worn, some inmates get the CO's to hancuff them the wrong way (palms together) they can and do break the cuffs. If they are cuffed with the key hole downward they can and do pick the cuff in a matter of seconds. I know who I am dealing with; lowlife criminals is excatly who I am dealing with.
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Post by D.E.E. on Jan 2, 2009 20:55:29 GMT -6
Might have happened years ago, but he stole from my mother, from my other 2 brothers and from me. He didn't take drugs, he used it for drink. He stole my 18th birthday money too. A lot of people have asked me why I don't forgive him, but I was the only child still living with my mother when he did what he did to her. He was her first-born and she loved him the most and he totally betrayed her, stole from her and assaulted her. He took advatage of her when she was at her lowest - my father had been killed in a car accident just 8 months previously. I was the one who called the police and testified against him in the Sheriff Court. He is nothing to me. He is my brother by blood, but not by love. I did not take my hatred for him out on his family though. I am still very close to his ex-wife and his children. I cannot blame them for his actions and I refuse to do so. You might think I am hard, but I cannot put into words the agony of watching my mother lying on the ground with a huge lump or her head from where he had kicked her. And this was her son. There is a school of thought that you should never steal from family as they will always help you if they can. My oldest brother believed we were all a soft touch and disrespected us all. I wouldn't spit on my brother if he was on fire Andy, in fact I would probably add petrol to the flames. My mother was never the same after that incident - she died 10 years later still suffering from his kicks to her head. I am sorry you went through that and I completely understand your attitude. I believe if more family members had this attitude there would be less crime.
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Post by D.E.E. on Jan 2, 2009 20:58:54 GMT -6
Bloody elle Andie! I would keep quiet and say i know nothing. I'm not saying thats right it's just the way i am. A typical criminal and inmate attitude, I expected nothing else from you.
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