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Post by whitediamonds on Jun 27, 2018 7:44:17 GMT -6
Just another money wasting excuse to appeal. If he was in perfect health the same people would appeal on other grounds. The appeals process needs serious change or we might just as well stop convicting people. Why would a state intent on killing an inmate be concerned for his health, or his well-being at all? Makes no sense to me. The vein issue, when health is poor, is being used.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jun 25, 2018 14:46:35 GMT -6
Danny Bible up for execution Wednesday 6/27/18, in Huntsville TX.
An appeal not to execute him, due to he is in poor health.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jun 25, 2018 9:06:45 GMT -6
Three were executed (Cantu, O'Brien and Medellin), two were given LWOP (Perez and Villareal), and the youngest Venancio Medellin was given 40 years. Venancio has applied for parole several times but been rejected. His next application is in 2020. I may be wrong but I believe LWOP was not an option when Perez and Villareal were convicted. I think they may be eligible for parole after 40 years. Villareal will be up for parole 2020.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jun 24, 2018 20:59:26 GMT -6
What they did to Jennifer & Elizabeth was a horribly disgusting sadistic frenzy to them by this gang.
A change resulted from the Ertman-Pena case. The victims relatives could now witness executions.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jun 24, 2018 11:00:54 GMT -6
Were the vermin ever caught? Hawg 3 of the vermin were executed. Not sure I think 2 others got life. That was one of the main reasons I came to this site, also I am for victims advocacy to this day. Always will be.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jun 15, 2018 21:26:30 GMT -6
Tomorrow Saturday 6-16-18, there will be balloons released @ TC Jester Park in Houston
25 Years ago Elizabeth Pena & Jennifer Ertman were brutally murdered by gang members while walking thru TC Jester Park. The two young girls were raped, tortured & murdered.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jun 4, 2018 13:24:03 GMT -6
Are blacks killing whites? Only if they are in uniform now days. On a whole blacks commit more crimes period. Are you shooting from the hip or something? Must be fake news, or camera's lie too.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jun 4, 2018 11:05:17 GMT -6
We have so many cultures ( skin colors) why is it always a black & white thing going on? Why?At least where I live, on the news is it always 97 % of the time a black person. Are the security cameras racist too? Police cams many officers wear are racist too. Please WW do not rant on about the poor blacks, it is an insult to the blacks who are poor yet never murder anyone. Actually theyt too are being murdered by their own culture. Why is it majority of other cultures do not scream racist over everything as a ace card. The black leaders need to stop filling there pockets off their culture & step to the plate. There is a double standard going on for sure. Well, WD, I'm not really sure how you came to the conclusion I'm 'ranting' about 'poor blacks'. I'm certainly not. I'm 'ranting' about the arbitrariness of the system. And, you prove my point. If, as you say 97% of blacks are committing the crimes AND they commit most of them on themselves ~ other blacks, why do we execute so many who kill white victims? If we didn't care so much about race, then don't you think we should execute blacks more frequently than those who kill whites ~ just judging by your post alone? Are blacks killing whites? Only if they are in uniform now days. On a whole blacks commit more crimes period.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jun 4, 2018 10:57:26 GMT -6
Non sense, anti's too pick pick & choose where too end life, in many area's of life. Taking a life is just a pick & choose. We have 3 degrees of murder for killers & a jury trial. Some of the pick & choose to end life have one deciding. Could you rephrase, WD, cuz I'm not really sure what you're saying. No need to rephrase. You mean you cannot figure out how we as a ( society) pick & choose what life to end, even anti's end life. Of course anti's will play the so called high road when it comes to capital murderers. Criminals decide who's life will end, all by themselves. Other area's of ending life"society", the same only ONE decides which life will end.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jun 2, 2018 9:56:49 GMT -6
So you think there is no justice ? Society thinks there is justice when punishment is enacted. Thats the actual purpose of the Death Penalty. If you commit capital murder you are at risk of being exterminated as a scurge to society. We have achieved Brexit by political means - the death penalty will be our next target - there is no justice unless there is sociertal retribution - what is that retribution to society - zero - not possible - the only answer is to enact the sentence. Society "aka" democracy to decide. Ps. your empahsis on "pros" is ridiculous and laughable - it is an entire society that decides on law (thought given you could type and had access to internet you would know that) Pros hold fast to Capital Punishment. Pros (prosecutors) decide which murder cases are good enough to bring before a DP jury. Pros (who sit on juries) who decide if a murderer should die for his heinous actions. Pros who pick and choose which murderers to kill and which ones not to kill. Antis do NONE of that. I don't know about you, but I've NEVER once seen on a ballot 'should we keep DP'. Until I've been asked to vote on a topic, my part (anti part) of society did not decide on law. Our 'justice' is arbitrary and therefore, meaningless. 'We' want justice and vengeance only for some murder victims. Most of those who support capital punishment, only want it for some really icky murders ~ or white murder victims ~ preferring to release the vast majority of those who kill, because most of them won't be killing us white folks anyway. As you probably know already, I do not support CP. I also do not support release of murderers. The vast majority of murderers will be released, even while a few get a death sentence. You consider that just? I do not. If a system only punishes a few with death, for the same horrific crime they ALL committed, then how can we pretend we're a just society? I want them all removed forever from society. I don't think that's too much to ask. We have so many cultures ( skin colors) why is it always a black & white thing going on? Why?At least where I live, on the news is it always 97 % of the time a black person. Are the security cameras racist too? Police cams many officers wear are racist too. Please WW do not rant on about the poor blacks, it is an insult to the blacks who are poor yet never murder anyone. Actually theyt too are being murdered by their own culture. Why is it majority of other cultures do not scream racist over everything as a ace card. The black leaders need to stop filling there pockets off their culture & step to the plate. There is a double standard going on for sure.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jun 2, 2018 8:57:44 GMT -6
Non sense, anti's too pick pick & choose where too end life, in many area's of life. Taking a life is just a pick & choose. We have 3 degrees of murder for killers & a jury trial. Some of the pick & choose to end life have one deciding.
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Post by whitediamonds on May 22, 2018 8:14:43 GMT -6
That's what I just said, two are charged with murder. To add. According to news *also on escape one of them committed assault) Why don't we execute them before trial, and end the risk of this kind of thing? We did confine them & still run the risk of escape. Oh, another crime they will be charged with too.Hopefully not another murder charge though.
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Post by whitediamonds on May 22, 2018 7:23:04 GMT -6
That's what I just said, two are charged with murder. To add. According to news *also on escape one of them committed assault) Charged? So not yet convicted? Why don't we execute them before trial, and end the risk of this kind of thing? It's the only way to be sure. Who's with me? Yep, jailed & being held on murder "charges:"
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Post by whitediamonds on May 21, 2018 9:27:04 GMT -6
There are holding cells in jail. There is cause just waiting for trial. Yes. Holding cells. This is the first time I've heard them called 'lock-down' though. Came online to see whats new, you still stuck on nitpick'in this?
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Post by whitediamonds on May 20, 2018 19:46:00 GMT -6
On the news they were in lock down until trial. During the escape one or maybe all of them overpowered a correctional officer, that would be assault. I just find it weird that they're kind of downplaying the whole thing except that 2 of them are still at large and considered dangerous. One was caught (or turned himself in). I think( not sure ) the third one was caught.
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Post by whitediamonds on May 20, 2018 19:42:22 GMT -6
On the news they were in lock down until trial. Hmm... Typically prisoners aren't on lock-down without cause. If the news is right, SC doesn't have very good 'lock-down' procedures. There are holding cells in jail. There is cause just waiting for trial.
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Post by whitediamonds on May 20, 2018 19:27:42 GMT -6
True, but for some reason it is not there anymore to delete a post. I used it a few times myself when a post doubled up. It was there( the option)on the arrow next to the gear. Go figure? Although I have not seen a double post by WW. OOOps now it is there again. I edited my duplicate post to ask the question about deleting a post Good you did fine the option. Or a way around it, do you see where you can delete a dup now?
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Post by whitediamonds on May 20, 2018 19:16:55 GMT -6
No I just said , charged with murder. Not in your first post about it. Really, WD, it's not a problem. Where did you hear they were on lock-down? Also, I'm not finding a thing about an assault while they escaped. On the news they were in lock down until trial. During the escape one or maybe all of them overpowered a correctional officer, that would be assault.
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Post by whitediamonds on May 20, 2018 18:27:12 GMT -6
South Carolina detention center. Two are 'charged with murder', one is 'charged with grand larceny and car jacking'. I didn't see anything about an assault, except on a previous (unrelated) attempt escape a year ago. And, when I read your comment '2 of them in for murder', I assumed you'd meant they were convicted of murder. Anyway, no worries. All cleared up now. No I just said , charged with murder. To make totally clear, on lock down waiting for trial. OK Is that clear?
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Post by whitediamonds on May 20, 2018 18:13:43 GMT -6
why can't I just delete a duplicate post? You can! Look at the icon to the far right of the quote, edit, and thumbs up icons; it will have what appears to be a little gear on it. Click on it and a little box will drop down and you will see a "delete post" option. True, but for some reason it is not there anymore to delete a post. I used it a few times myself when a post doubled up. It was there( the option)on the arrow next to the gear. Go figure? Although I have not seen a double post by WW. OOOps now it is there again.
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Post by whitediamonds on May 20, 2018 16:40:14 GMT -6
Also on the news tonight, 3 inmates escaped, 2 of them in for murder. Committed assault while escaping. DUH South Carolina detention center. Two are 'charged with murder', one is 'charged with grand larceny and car jacking'. That's what I just said, two are charged with murder. To add. According to news *also on escape one of them committed assault)
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Post by whitediamonds on May 20, 2018 16:15:18 GMT -6
Also on the news tonight, 3 inmates escaped, 2 of them in for murder. Committed assault while escaping. DUH
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Post by whitediamonds on May 20, 2018 15:58:52 GMT -6
How sad is this.... seeing people take philosophical positions, economic positions and political positions - they are overtly moot points - do any of you actually think that your posturing at any level equates to justice ? To be clear, there is punishment for the commission of crime, there is vengeance for the commission of crime and there is possibility in some cases of rehabilitation for crime ... none of this undoes the crime............. how does one undo capital murder ? That is the question for any anti to actually answer - I am still waiting after many years. I think you're asking the wrong question of the wrong people. Obviously murder (capital or not) cannot be undone. It's pros who choose which cases are capital, which ones should be plea bargained down, which ones will likely bring a death sentence (from pros). It's pros who sit on juries and decide the fate of DP eligible murder. It's pros who want to pick and choose which murders are worse than the others. Talk to them. We pick & choose in other area's too, of what living life we will end & the why's. SO? I will never understand when we pick who's life to end especially when totally innocent? Why?
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Post by whitediamonds on May 20, 2018 15:52:25 GMT -6
how does one undo capital murder ? That is the question for any anti to actually answer - I am still waiting after many years. What is the pro's answer to this question? Well, you can replace, repair, re-condition, but you cannot undo capital murder that is a total loss. Total loss equals a total loss. Next.
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Post by whitediamonds on May 17, 2018 18:44:27 GMT -6
Disappeared
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Post by whitediamonds on May 15, 2018 18:52:06 GMT -6
How did we get to such a long legal mess? In another words, say 20-30 decades ago did appeals drag out for decades, if given the DP how many decades did it take to execute?
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Post by whitediamonds on May 14, 2018 21:26:17 GMT -6
[quote source="/post/630156/thread" timestamp="1526328061" author=" Charles Manson didn't get LWOP. It wasn't a sentencing option when he was convicted. True. He had a DP sentence, then they stopped the DP & it became LWP. Of course he was up for many parole hearings & denied. Thank God.
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Post by whitediamonds on May 14, 2018 12:05:23 GMT -6
Guess what you can do with your homework assignment. You're only hurting yourself with that attitude. Give the assignment a try. You might surprise yourself. I'm not hurting myself at all.
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Post by whitediamonds on May 14, 2018 11:37:54 GMT -6
Non sense,only if this was a perfect world. No. Your homework this week is to review the difference between "every" and "some". If I said, "Everything is black and white" you could say, "Only if this were a perfect world." But I didn't say that. I said, "Some things are black and white". English lessons are not part of this thread either, but death is, no matter how or who ends life.
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Post by whitediamonds on May 14, 2018 11:33:26 GMT -6
Hmm. Maybe we should have held you back. Never happened.
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