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Post by Kay on Dec 12, 2006 7:31:45 GMT -6
Ok. Sarchasm out. You are dispicable. And maybe you can point me to a foolproof process or site that can judge character. I could certainly use it when I hire people. I could eliminate my entire Human Resources department. Heck. We could just run Everybody through it and jail them Before they kill anyone. Man. You may be on to something here. Oops. There's that pesky sarchasm again... Yasgersfarm, seriously, you’ve got enough hot air for a balloon ride over the Napa Valley wine country. Do you have children, Oslooskar? Kay, if you had read my previous comments on this thread you would know the answer to that. Apologies for overlooking your previous post, I see now that you have a son. As a parent, I felt personally responsible for every bump, bruise and failure my children experienced. I cannot even begin to imagine just how guilty the Baugh family must feel, nor how many regrets they have for placing Brandon in the care of Henderson. I have no heart to judge them harshly, surely they took all the necessary precautions, before leaving their children. In my opinion, the entire blame lies with Henderson, the murderer.
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Post by Kay on Dec 11, 2006 19:36:27 GMT -6
I am both dumbfounded and outraged at you somehow justifying pointing the finger back at the parents. Yasgersfarm, really, don’t get all virtuous on me now; your initial post, which was directed at me, was nothing but a blatant exercise in the lowest form of sarcasm. Ok. Sarchasm out. You are dispicable. And maybe you can point me to a foolproof process or site that can judge character. I could certainly use it when I hire people. I could eliminate my entire Human Resources department. Heck. We could just run Everybody through it and jail them Before they kill anyone. Man. You may be on to something here. Oops. There's that pesky sarchasm again... Do you have children, Oslooskar?
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Post by Kay on Nov 28, 2006 7:28:30 GMT -6
Well Oslooskar, Lotus is not the only person that interpreted your question to mean that the Baugh's hold some responsibility for Brandon's death by leaving him in the charge of Henderson.
So can you expand on your comment a little more, because I'm also curious as to the point of your post?
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Post by Kay on Nov 22, 2006 6:53:16 GMT -6
Please pass along my sympathies to your friend Eryn, what an unbearable and painful roller coaster ride. Brandon would be almosr 13 now, in Junior High, enjoying sports perhaps, just beginning to venture out into the world. All those years, he has missed and been missed, I can't even begin to imagine.
So very sad
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Post by Kay on Nov 16, 2006 6:05:39 GMT -6
Yep, I've received news that next week, a judge will sing the death warrant for Cathy Henderson. She was convicted of kidnapping and killing a 3 month old boy she was babysitting. His name was Brandon Baugh
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Post by Kay on Nov 29, 2006 7:10:29 GMT -6
Well i did'nt realise you had to be affected by murder to join. That should be in the disclaimer if so. Hi Andy, Aren't we all effected, however, indirectly by the murder of another human being? Even if I had not become friends with others here who have lost loved ones to murder, I was still impacted by their stories of loss and heartbreak. I have learned many things about the death penalty debate, and am better able to understand the pro position, although I remain an anti. But most of all, I think what the MVS here have taught me, is to never take the ones I love for granted, to always tell those I care for, that I love them, and to really appreciate, just how very fortunate I am to have everyone I love still here with me.
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Post by Kay on Nov 8, 2006 20:45:09 GMT -6
I hope that the execution of Shannon brings some semblance of peace to the family of Benjamin Garza.
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Post by Kay on Oct 28, 2006 17:30:01 GMT -6
Gregory Summers, 48, was executed by lethal injection Wednesday for initiating a murder-for-hire plot that authorities said led to the fatal stabbings of his parents and an uncle. He had been corresponding with students from a local middle school for several years from prison. Carretta said she began writing to Summers about 10 years ago, after reading an article about him in the Catholic news magazine Famiglia Cristiana. She decided to send a contribution for his defense, and he sent a thank you note. In 1998, she got students from a local middle school involved and last October, they collected signatures for a moratorium against the death penalty and gave them to Texas State Sen. Leticia Van de Putte, a Democrat from San Antonio, when she visited Florence. Why on earth is a teacher involving students in writing to a death row inmate? Even as an anti, I would be outraged if one of my teenager's teachers encouraged such a relationship.
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Post by Kay on Oct 26, 2006 16:53:07 GMT -6
"I'm disappointed," Pennington said in a phone interview. He added that he wasn't really surprised by the decision but felt the judges missed an opportunity to rule on important points of the law. I thinkt he denial does rule on the important points of the law..it upholds them. I am curious what points of law are more important than the guy confessing. I wondered about that too Big Mama, obviously it's not a question of guilt or innocence.
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Post by Kay on Oct 22, 2006 10:32:48 GMT -6
Ginger, My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family at this very difficult time. Wishing you the strength to endure what no one should ever have to face. I believe you have the power to preserve your spiritual freedom, and independence of mind, even under such terrible conditions and stress Please know that I am here and I care, dear Lady.
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Post by Kay on Oct 19, 2006 22:14:53 GMT -6
I think that because my sympathies are with the victims and their families, this kind of delay makes me very angry. Why on earth do we dangle a resolution in front of MVS, an execution which the family supports, and then take another, God knows how many years to bring about the execution? Meanwhile the family endures an agonizing roller coaster ride which surely must add to their pain. Then we have radical antis setting up support boards for murderers, sympathizing with the killers, and giving them a voice, all the while ignorning the victims. More pain for the family. Most of you know, I don't support the death penalty, but if we are going to have such a penalty on the books, we should use it, and if we're not going to, then why prolong the pain for the MVS. I'm disturbed and disgusted, I really am
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Post by Kay on Oct 19, 2006 17:54:23 GMT -6
I'm so sorry Cynthia. I'm sorry that your mother was murdered when you were just 7 years old and you had to grow up without her love. I'm so sorry that she could not be there to see you graduate from high school, to walk you don't the aisle and to hold those precious children of yours. I'm so sorry that the resolution you are seeking has again been denied. You're in my thoughts and prayers girl, sending you strength to endure. I love you much Kay
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Post by Kay on Oct 18, 2006 16:09:31 GMT -6
My thoughts are with Cynthia, and I hope if this execution is carried out, it brings her a semblance of peace Love you and miss you girl
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Post by Kay on Oct 12, 2006 6:20:17 GMT -6
I'm sorry Grandma, but I don't agree that this is great news. Shasta's father did not want her to have to testify in court. Wouldn't it have been easier on the family to have accepted the plea? Was the plea in exchange for LWOP or was the sentence not specified?
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Post by Kay on Oct 2, 2006 20:33:36 GMT -6
Good riddance. Hoping the family of Benjamin Brenneman can have a little peace now that they never again have to hear the name of the raping murdering piece of shyt who so cruelly used their little boy and and viciously took his life. However long he's been festering on death row, his death is long long overdue. No loss to society that's for certain. Peace to the Brenneman family who will never have to endure another appeal.
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Post by Kay on Oct 4, 2006 18:39:09 GMT -6
Well, perhaps if Joseph needs legal advice in the future, he can call Jerry Springer and ask for a volunteer
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Post by Kay on Oct 1, 2006 7:42:28 GMT -6
1974 is the year I graduated from high school, almost a whole life time ago. It's truly shocking and disgusting that any penalty or punishment could take that long to implement.
Does anyone know why? Links?
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Post by Kay on Sept 30, 2006 8:49:44 GMT -6
I am impressed that Texas is only one of 5 executions..... 4 other states are stepping up to the plate which shows in the last week of October 1/10 of the United States are making the crooks pay up and at least have their name on the books. Anyone know how many states have planted a murderer in the ground this year? Hi Spur, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, North Carolina, Montana, Ohio, Virginia, South Carolina, Tennesee, Nevada, Indiana and California. www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/death/usexecute.htm
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Post by Kay on Sept 19, 2006 19:33:01 GMT -6
I was thinking the same thing, he probably "volunteered" as a ploy for more time to live, knowing darn well that the appeal process was gonna give him a bunch more years. Like I have said I never believe them until it's over with. And some go to their deaths, still proclaiming their innocence, as did Roger Keith Coleman. Does anyone think, perhaps, he chose the electric chair to help pursue an insanity defense, surely, this is a more horrifying way to die, than being executed by lethal injection. More manipulation of the system by the murderer.
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Post by Kay on Aug 31, 2006 17:59:39 GMT -6
What kind of Mom would forgive that?!?!?!?!?!?! I'm glad she is in prison too. I suppose the kind that would live with a man who beats and tortures children. Not only that, but she left her precious daughter alone with him, knowing he was an abuser. And like you, I'm also glad she's in prison. Here's a link with a picture of sweet, innocent Tessa. www.chickashanews.com/opinion/local_story_238114722.html?keyword=topstory
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Post by Kay on Sept 6, 2006 20:16:28 GMT -6
How clever you are Joseph, a little spin here and a twist there and you've got me cheering for murderers. I know it's a waste of time trying to be real with you but I stand by my statement that I don't care if gang bangers shoot it out and kill each other. Nope. Not at all. How enlightened for an alleged Catholic. Every time you write you dig yourself further into a racist whole, BigMama. Most gang members aren't murderers, or even criminals. People killed by gangsters are every much the murder victims that Dru Sjodin, Samantha Runnion or Mamabear's daughter. You simply can't make the equivalence because you regard people in gangs as either not "innocent" or even "evil incarnate," to use your terms from yesterday. Sure there are gangsters that shoot at each other, but those who murder aren't less deserving of punishing as any other murderer who just happens to not belong to a group. What you're really telling everyone here is that you want gang members all dead. Or am I twisting your words again? Should I repeat them for you, word for word? Big Mama's post had nothing to do with Catholicism or any other religion, so why the "alleged Catholic" remark Joseph, more personal attacks? And what on earth is racist about not caring if gang bangers shoot each other dead, or murderers kill other murderers in prison? Are there not white gang members, what about white supremacy gangs? She wasn't talking about innocent victims such as the ones you named. I see no racism evident, and in my opinion, your attempts to infer such, are simply a ploy to refute the excellent arguments and opinions stated by Big Mama in this thread. And please feel free to call me a KKK member if it pleases you
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Post by Kay on Sept 6, 2006 16:45:34 GMT -6
You would kill the death penalty in this country trying to execute every murderer. The death penalty is moribund already. I'd rather kill it entirely if we can put the rest of them in prison, irreversibly, for the rest of their lives. Apparently you don't believe in that, either. Under the system you support, BigMama, we parole murderers to the streets while they are still young men. That is something I find very hard to tolerate, and I don't know why you do. Oh wait. Yes, I do. It's because only the right kind of people are being murdered. I have never seen BigMama state that she does not support LWOP along with capital punishment for the crime of murder. As for your last statement here Joseph, that's a gross and blatantly untrue accusation, a figment of your imagination, no doubt.
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Post by Kay on Aug 29, 2006 17:30:44 GMT -6
I can't believe this. There had better be a good reason! Are you honestly going to agree that any "reason" is a good one to delay the execution of Page. My sympathies to the MVS, who are enduring this horrible roller coaster ride
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Post by Kay on Aug 21, 2006 17:57:51 GMT -6
Reading about the murder of little Tessa in the scheduled exeuctions, it seems that Mailcoat claims he suffered severe abuse as a child. So which is it, is this newfound relationship with his Mom a new thing?
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Post by Kay on Jul 28, 2006 19:42:28 GMT -6
Don't forget that was 97 times. How many times for each of the victims? Your post got me to thinking gman, and so I counted. The bell would need to toll 143 times for all the victims murdered by the 97 people Virginia has put to death since 1976. I'm stunned
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Post by Kay on Jul 25, 2006 6:32:02 GMT -6
You know, I find it very interesting that you all think that anyone can just put in a claim and the texas CCA is just going to accept everything that is filed? Think a minute people..... if those that are getting a stay from the CCA, then don't you think that there is some merit to their claims? Come on now, it's Texas. The state who thought that a lawyer that slept through a capital murder trial is an affective lawyer!! Bridgers was sentenced to death in 1998, he's had nine years to file a claim of mental retardation. Bringing up such claims, when his execution is imminent, seems nothing more that a stall tactic, even to my anti way of thinking.
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Post by Kay on Jul 20, 2006 18:11:00 GMT -6
My sympathy to Audra Ann's family, I wish you peace and healing. That poor little girl would be 19 now, just venturing out into the world, all those years lost to a brual murderer.
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Post by Kay on Jul 19, 2006 19:45:15 GMT -6
If there is an Anti who can honestly say this one deserves LWOP instead of DP......... never mind.... I have a few Anti's I respect and like or I would tell you how I really feel. I am seriously, big time, struggling with this case Spur, OMG, he tortured that little girl for 45 minutes, and when she pleaded for mercy, he murdered her. I have no words, none, most certainly he deserves to die for such a vile crime. Poor, poor Audra Ann, I am so sorry, that evil crossed your path in the form of Anderson.
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Post by Kay on Jul 22, 2006 14:30:14 GMT -6
I found the debate in this thread to be interesting, many varied points of view, all well presented.
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Post by Kay on Jul 18, 2006 6:00:46 GMT -6
Dear BigMama and JBS,
As you ladies know, you are two of my favorites here and I usually find myself in agreement with the majority of your posts. I think of my own daughter who just turned 15 and still don't think she has the emotional maturity to handle an execution, but as you ladies pointed out, she is not an MVS.
So I decided to go back and read Shawni's posts regarding Kunkle's execution, the impact it had on her, and how she responded. I'm still not convinced, that at such a young age, there is any benefit to this young man watching the execution, but do agree with your point, that if his guardian feels it's appropriate, then it should not be up to the courts.
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