opinions ?

[josephdphillips]

ltdc said:

I know, that's my point. # plus maybe certain classic posts people remember, I don't know. certainly if anyone could come up with appropriate names it would agaveman, don't you think?

If there is a member on this board who is absolutely comfortable in his own skin, that member would be Erick. He's a good man.

[Rev. Agave]

josephdphillips said:

ltdc said:

I know, that's my point. # plus maybe certain classic posts people remember, I don't know. certainly if anyone could come up with appropriate names it would agaveman, don't you think?

If there is a member on this board who is absolutely comfortable in his own skin, that member would be Erick. He's a good man.

Thanks Joseph, that means a heck of a lot to me

[Ariel]

'I would like to meet one person who thinks that Ian Huntly or Myra Hindley should not suffer for what they did.'

Well, Claire, I think in the case of Hindley that idiot Lord Longford seemed to think she was some sort of deserving case. I must admit I don't know anyone else but there's always one somewhere claiming that these people deserve sympathy and understanding.

If we still had a proper justice system they would have been executed a long time ago.

[rosebud]

lindamarshall said:

'I would like to meet one person who thinks that Ian Huntly or Myra Hindley should not suffer for what they did.'

Well, Claire, I think in the case of Hindley that idiot Lord Longford seemed to think she was some sort of deserving case. I must admit I don't know anyone else but there's always one somewhere claiming that these people deserve sympathy and understanding.

If we still had a proper justice system they would have been executed a long time ago.

Horray well said

There is always hope. Then our prisons will not be so overcrowded.

[Ariel]

Thank you, Claire. As a former anti I am well aware of the arguments against the death penalty and it always irritates me when some - not all - of them make excuses for these people. The parents of the poor murdered girls at Soham are already serving a life sentence and Huntley is still alive. I wish we still had the power to execute monsters like him. The voice of the victim and the MSVs should be paramount in my opinion.

[suzukichic]

Well said!

[Deleted]

i do not believe in the death penalty. when you kill the murderer you don't really allow him to think about what he has done. for example if the murderer was to face a lifetime in jail he would have that time to regret what he has done and realize that he is there because he has committed the crime, so he has to suffer. killing someone does not give them that time to think about what they have don't. and secondly there have been past cases where and innocent person has been put to death. it is irreversible!!!!

[jackm]

One, murderers and criminals in general don't regret committing their crimes – they regret getting caught. Two, most murderers get off remembering and discussing their crimes. Especially, the sexual deviants. I don't know about you, but I don't want some pos kicking back in his cell with three hots and a cot jerking off to the memory of raping and strangling my child. Three, appeals take anywhere from 10-30 years. That's plenty of time to seen the error of their ways, if they were so inclined. Four, name one person that has actually been found innocent that was executed since the dp was reinstated.

it is irreversible!!!!

Good!!!!

[Lady]

erin said:

i do not believe in the death penalty. when you kill the murderer you don't really allow him to think about what he has done. for example if the murderer was to face a lifetime in jail he would have that time to regret what he has done and realize that he is there because he has committed the crime, so he has to suffer. killing someone does not give them that time to think about what they have don't. and secondly there have been past cases where and innocent person has been put to death. it is irreversible!!!!

I will take " Name the Innocent who has been executed " for 500 Alex
Many come on here and claim that ,but have yet to actually provide evidence of an innocent who has actually been executed . SOOOOO Erin ,who do you think is innocent who has been executed ?

[josephdphillips]

erin said:

when you kill the murderer you don't really allow him to think about what he has done.

That's not the point of capital punishment. No one cares if he reflects on the wrongness of his past conduct. it's too late for regrets.

erin said:

there have been past cases where and innocent person has been put to death. it is irreversible!!!!

Even if that were true, it doesn't matter. What matters is retributive justice.

[johnnyrep]

You mean it doesn't matter that innocent people are executed because the search for revenge is more important.

Revenge might give you a moments pleasure and satisfaction and in your quest for that you declare that this is worth more than the loss of innocent lives which you are seeking revenge for in the first place.

You're either a liar or an attention seeking idiot.

[josephdphillips]

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johnnyrep said:

You mean it doesn't matter that innocent people are executed because the search for revenge is more important. Revenge might give you a moments pleasure and satisfaction and in your quest for that you declare that this is worth more than the loss of innocent lives which you are seeking revenge for in the first place. You're either a liar or an attention seeking idiot.

All forms of punishment are retributive. The death penalty is just another punishment. Only an idiot cares whether or not a murderer has learned his lesson.

[johnnyrep]

What about the innocent people you have so generously decided should die to satisfy your desire for revenge.....it's just a little odd that you don't care an iota about them.

All other considerations must fall away in your haste to execute the guilty I suppose.

How noble of you to declare your willingness to sacrifice innocent people.

[josephdphillips]

johnnyrep said:

What about the innocent people you have so generously decided should die to satisfy your desire for revenge.....it's just a little odd that you don't care an iota about them. All other considerations must fall away in your haste to execute the guilty I suppose. How noble of you to declare your willingness to sacrifice innocent people.

The government kills many more innocents outside of prison, every day, than have ever been executed, or ever will be executed. It's a risk every one of us takes.

When I was an anti, I deemed any risk of executing innocents unacceptable. I got over it, after learning just how guilty the guilty really are.

[johnnyrep]

When I was an anti, I deemed any risk of executing innocents unacceptable. I got over it, after learning just how guilty the guilty really are.

You actually believe that the guilt of the guilty is more important than innocent lives......... That's tantamount to saying that you prize the right to kill murderers more than you do the protection of innocent lives.

Gee....I thought you were killing the murderers to protect the innocent in the first place.



How odd.

You think killing people convicted of certain crimes is more important than the fact that doing this could mean innocent people die.

You've made this silly statement a few times and cling to it as if it's some sort of indication of your high principles in pursuit of the guilty when all it really serves as is a measure of your utter disregard for anything other than your own sad belief in the cheap transitory satisfaction of revenge.

You are willing to kill innocent people to get your revenge.

I like how the more you write the greater your errors of judgment and logic become.

Keep it up; I appreciate the entertainment.

[josephdphillips]

johnnyrep said:

You actually believe that the guilt of the guilty is more important than innocent lives

Nope, I simply believe the one in a quadrillion chance an average person will be falsely arrested, falsely charged, falsely arraigned, falsely tried, falsely convicted, falsely affirmed and falsely denied injunctive relief within a justice system geared to freeing the guilty is worth taking in order to execute murderers.

johnnyrep said:

I thought you were killing the murderers to protect the innocent in the first place.

Indeed I am. However, no system of justice is perfect. You'd rather have one that's extremely bad than one that accrues at least some benefit to society. Furthermore, you are contemptuous of any attempts to prevent acts of murder before they happen.

johnnyrep said:

it really serves as is a measure of your utter disregard for anything other than your own sad belief in the cheap transitory satisfaction of revenge. You are willing to kill innocent people to get your revenge. I like how the more you write the greater your errors of judgment and logic become. Keep it up; I appreciate the entertainment.

Call it revenge if it entertains you. I call it payback, something even the most dim-witted of murderers, and of their kind, understand. They get it.

You don't, because you pity murderers.

And I wouldn't call my satisfaction transitory in the least. I am still all warm and fuzzy since Tookie Williams assumed room temperature. The only pity is that I didn't get to urinate on him first.

[jack]

If the only concern was about the possibility of an innocent man being executed, antideathpenalty proponents would not object so loudly to an execution where there is no doubt of guilt. It's just bull. Their concern is not about their mythical innocent person (MIP). Their concern is only about those guilty of the most heinous acts.

[johnnyrep]

posted by:JosephdPhillips

And I wouldn't call my satisfaction transitory in the least. I am still all warm and fuzzy since Tookie Williams assumed room temperature. The only pity is that I didn't get to urinate on him first.

The spokesman for the righteousness of the death penalty...par exellence

[josephdphillips]

johnnyrep said:

The spokesman for the righteousness of the death penalty...par exellence

Thank you.

[Felix2]

josephdphillips said:

johnnyrep said:

The spokesman for the righteousness of the death penalty...par exellence

Thank you.

Oh yes, when it comes to debates Joe was always the "masterdebater"! LMAO

[Deleted]

johnnyrep said:

When I was an anti, I deemed any risk of executing innocents unacceptable. I got over it, after learning just how guilty the guilty really are.

You actually believe that the guilt of the guilty is more important than innocent lives......... That's tantamount to saying that you prize the right to kill murderers more than you do the protection of innocent lives.

Gee....I thought you were killing the murderers to protect the innocent in the first place.



How odd.

You think killing people convicted of certain crimes is more important than the fact that doing this could mean innocent people die.

You've made this silly statement a few times and cling to it as if it's some sort of indication of your high principles in pursuit of the guilty when all it really serves as is a measure of your utter disregard for anything other than your own sad belief in the cheap transitory satisfaction of revenge.

You are willing to kill innocent people to get your revenge.

I like how the more you write the greater your errors of judgment and logic become.

Keep it up; I appreciate the entertainment.

If you think that someone has been wrongly convicted, then go ahead and fight for them. But on the same hand you should support the execution of all the convicted murderers, because there is no doubt that executing them means they will never murder again.

8% of DR inmates were convicted of murder prior to the murder that got them on to DR. Now thats allot of victims.

Your arguments don't hold water and murderers murder.

You could care less about the victims of these scum, based on one might be innocent? You are just about the lowest form of human. And you belong in an institution for the habitually ignorant.