opinions ?

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The only problem with that idea is that the contest would be very loop sided, the antis would have a 98% advantage with people like Dennis, skyloon, and xanax on their side.

josephdphillips said:

doc said:

Congratulations you win stupid post of the day award.

LOL! That made me bust out, Doc. Thanks.

Maybe you mods can actually have that as a contest here.

[josephdphillips]

doc said:

The only problem with that idea is that the contest would be very loop sided, the antis would have a 98% advantage with people like Dennis, skyloon, and xanax on their side.

josephdphillips said:

LOL! That made me bust out, Doc. Thanks. Maybe you mods can actually have that as a contest here.

Good point.

[dennis25]

So i get a reward by stating a fact, wow

doc said:

Congratulations you win stupid post of the day award.

dennis25 said:

more people die in car accidents than that get killed by released murderers

[dennis25]

i'm not 100% anti because I'd allow the dp under certain circumstances

doc said:

The only problem with that idea is that the contest would be very loop sided, the antis would have a 98% advantage with people like Dennis, skyloon, and xanax on their side.

josephdphillips said:

LOL! That made me bust out, Doc. Thanks.

Maybe you mods can actually have that as a contest here.

[Frustrated]

Kill the sons of bitches and do it quick!

Whats the point of LWOP?? Just spending money to keep useless scum alive for a natural lifetime? That is just ignorant.
If you cant contribute to society then leave or die. Get off the free ride.
They should die the way they killed. Its about justice and consistentency. Its about deterrants. its about thinking twice before you commit a rape or murder or both.

Its about NOT letting criminals have a second chance of inflicting more sorrow and death and pain on yet ANOTHER victim.

Its obvious our prison system is broken. SO many repeat offenders.
If the bastard knew he would slowly hang and suffer for raping that little girl or boy, maybe he would think twice before acting.
If the bastard knew he would be boiled alive....
If the bastard knew he would be skinned alive....

You get my point?!

Why am I, for example, paying tax money to keep the BTK killer alive?!! He will never contribute to society! Torture and kill the maggot. Make an example of him.

We tried the 'soft' approach and it failed miserably. ask ALL of the repeat offender victims.

Its time to turn up the heat and make the laws work for the hard working, good, innocent people of the nation.

Why do we care about the rights of a criminal? He lost all those rights when he broke the law.

[rain]

Frustrated said:

You get my point?!

Uh, yeah.

Welcome to the board frustrated.

[Rev. Agave]

Frustrated said:

Why am I, for example, paying tax money to keep the BTK killer alive?!! He will never contribute to society! Torture and kill the maggot. Make an example of him.

Before we torture and kill him, we should first bind him.

[depressio]

Whole-life tariffs are rare. There are fewer prisoners per capita in the UK who are serving the equivalent of "true LWOP" than there are on death row in the US. The appeals process for a whole-life tariff sentence over there is nearly as involved as the death penalty appeals process over here.

Far more common are sentences such as "Life with a minimum tariff of 15 years" (i.e. 15 years to life).

There are people in the UK who argue that even true LWOP is too cruel to be used as a punishment.

[WankerMcGoo]

As a pro I can guarantee you that a murderer who has been executed will do no harm again. Can you Antis guarantee me that a convicted murderer who is serving a life sentence will never harm anyone again?

[rosebud]

depressio said:

Whole-life tariffs are rare. There are fewer prisoners per capita in the UK who are serving the equivalent of "true LWOP" than there are on death row in the US. The appeals process for a whole-life tariff sentence over there is nearly as involved as the death penalty appeals process over here.

Far more common are sentences such as "Life with a minimum tariff of 15 years" (i.e. 15 years to life).

There are people in the UK who argue that even true LWOP is too cruel to be used as a punishment.

I would like to meet one person who thinks that Ian Huntly or Myra Hindley should not suffer for what they did.

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Dw said:

Hi i am a 17 year old girl from the Uk. I am currently doing a reasearch project on the death penalty at school and have found this site valuable information. I am pro death penalty and believe the death penalty should be reinstated in the uk. Our justice system is a joke ... life in prison means a maximum of about twenty years how is this justice? I have lots of opinions on why i believe the death penalty is the best option yet need some opinions from anti death penalty people .... so if u disagree with the death penalty why ? and what do u find suitable instead ?

But...why would you prefer dp then in stead of life without parole, not twenty years but for life? Because you say that life in prison means a maximum of about twenty years, It would be more logical to make it 50.

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Frustrated said:

Kill the sons of *witch*es and do it quick!

Whats the point of LWOP?? Just spending money to keep useless scum alive for a natural lifetime? That is just ignorant.
If you cant contribute to society then leave or die. Get off the free ride.
They should die the way they killed. Its about justice and consistentency. Its about deterrants. its about thinking twice before you commit a rape or murder or both.

Its about NOT letting criminals have a second chance of inflicting more sorrow and death and pain on yet ANOTHER victim.

Its obvious our prison system is broken. SO many repeat offenders.
If the bastard knew he would slowly hang and suffer for raping that little girl or boy, maybe he would think twice before acting.
If the bastard knew he would be boiled alive....
If the bastard knew he would be skinned alive....

You get my point?!

1. Most people who commit murders either do not expect to be caught or get the death sentence or do not carefully weigh the differences between a possible execution and life in prison before they act. Think about a smoker, (s)he doesn’t even want to think about the disease (s)he might get, so they don’t, and signs like pictures and texts on the packets they ignore.

2. Murders are most often committed in moments of blinding anger or passion, by people who intent to kill themselves AND others, or by people who are substance abusers and act impulsively.

3. The murders that are death-eligible (‘especially heinous, atrocious or cruel) are likely to be carried out by psychopathic personalities or persons who have lost control of their normal inhibitions and therefore are not ‘rational criminals’.

You get my point?

They should die the way they are killed? You are going to chop someone in pieces? You are going to stab someone 50 times?Who IS going to do that? No death watch team who wants to do that.

BTW. Repeat offenders is not only because the law and criminal system doesn't deter enough. It's about people being sick in their head, not having any GOOD therapy or therapy that doesn't work, getting back to criminal friends, not getting a job because of their police record, etc...

PLUS. How about criminals in former times when people were burned at stakes and abused and drowned etc? Murderers kept murdering knowing they would most probably be murdered when caught.

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rosebud said:

depressio said:

Whole-life tariffs are rare. There are fewer prisoners per capita in the UK who are serving the equivalent of "true LWOP" than there are on death row in the US. The appeals process for a whole-life tariff sentence over there is nearly as involved as the death penalty appeals process over here.

Far more common are sentences such as "Life with a minimum tariff of 15 years" (i.e. 15 years to life).

There are people in the UK who argue that even true LWOP is too cruel to be used as a punishment.

I would like to meet one person who thinks that Ian Huntly or Myra Hindley should not suffer for what they did.

Uhmm...I don't know who they are but I suppose they are people sentenced to death and who did horrible crimes?
In that case I'd say that there is a difference between no suffering and death penalty and being anti dp doesn't mean a murderer shouldn't suffer in any way.

[rosebud]

maysun said:

rosebud said:

I would like to meet one person who thinks that Ian Huntly or Myra Hindley should not suffer for what they did.

Uhmm...I don't know who they are but I suppose they are people sentenced to death and who did horrible crimes?
In that case I'd say that there is a difference between no suffering and death penalty and being anti dp doesn't mean a murderer shouldn't suffer in any way.

Moors murders. They murdered children. No DP in england they have been in prison since the 1960's when it happened.

[PIP]

dennis25 said:

wickedlyamoral said:

Your so called A-D only exist in your mind. It is not a practical sequence for being released.

Sorry, I made an error, it's my A-D.
If you pass that, you're 99,9% sure that the killer won't kill again

Even if the 99.9% was completely true- its not enough for me. The only 100% surefire way that a murderer will not murder again is to put them down. It's very simple.

[Even]

guest said:

I am very anti DP. Even if u are for the death penalty however, u have to realize that the system in effect right now is discriminatory, very costly (more than life imprisonment) and it kills innocent people.

I am under no obligation to realize false assertions as anything other than dishonesty.

[Ariel]

I am a pro and not ashamed of it. I am not (as one anti described me) a 'blood-sucking ghoul' but I do believe that for capital crimes justice requires that a life be taken in recompense for the destruction of a human life.

It is perfectly true that there are situations, such as self-defence for example, where the law recognises that it is permissible to take another's life if your own would otherwise be taken. The law also recognises the difference between manslaughter and murder (though I feel that sometimes things that were really murders are plea bargained down to manslaughter). That leaves the crimes that even antis recognise as murder. My view is that people like Huntley, Sutcliffe, Brady, and their kind have no place breathing the same air as decent people and I bitterly regret that because they are British we cannot hang them. I'd volunteer to pull the rope myself with scumbags like them!

[josephdphillips]

lindamarshall said:

I am a pro and not ashamed of it. I am not (as one anti described me) a 'blood-sucking ghoul' but I do believe that for capital crimes justice requires that a life be taken in recompense for the destruction of a human life. It is perfectly true that there are situations, such as self-defence for example, where the law recognises that it is permissible to take another's life if your own would otherwise be taken. The law also recognises the difference between manslaughter and murder (though I feel that sometimes things that were really murders are plea bargained down to manslaughter). That leaves the crimes that even antis recognise as murder. My view is that people like Huntley, Sutcliffe, Brady, and their kind have no place breathing the same air as decent people and I bitterly regret that because they are British we cannot hang them. I'd volunteer to pull the rope myself with scumbags like them!

Young lady, you are in the right place.

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wickedlyamoral said:

skyloom said:

Interesting that people can't deal with a 99.9% certainty that someone won't kill again, but they seem to be able to deal quite well with a 99.9% certainty that they aren't killing someone who is actually innocent.

No psychologist or psychiatrist can be 99.9% accurate on that. I don't care what instruments they use. And I have never referred to any percentage of those not being guilty being executed. Number of innocents in prison is far lower than those who are guilty.

i think that is the first time I have read where a pro has admitted to innocents being in prison.

[Ariel]

Thanks, Joseph. It's funny but everyone here's been nice and polite to me whereas on two of the three anti boards I belong to I've been abused a lot.

[josephdphillips]

lindamarshall said:

Thanks, Joseph. It's funny but everyone here's been nice and polite to me whereas on two of the three anti boards I belong to I've been abused a lot.

I was an anti, too. It's the ones that switched sides they hate, and fear, the most.

The attention I have received on one of those boards, CCADP, I think, makes me chuckle. I'm not a member, nor have I ever been tempted to become one, but you'd think I was the antichrist from what people have written about me there.

Where your epithets with pride. It unnerves them, like eating a double-bacon cheeseburger in front of a vegan.

[Ariel]

Thank you, Joseph. I must admit that it is a minority of antis who have abused me but it is very hurtful to be called 'a bloodsucking ghoul.' I

[josephdphillips]

lindamarshall said:

Thank you, Joseph. I must admit that it is a minority of antis who have abused me but it is very hurtful to be called 'a bloodsucking ghoul.'

They befriend murderers, Linda, and, by extension, abet murder. So consider the source. Angering these folks can't be a bad thing.

Besides, I think Erick and I have been called a lot worse. We'll draw enemy fire for ya.

[Rev. Agave]

lindamarshall said:

but it is very hurtful to be called 'a bloodsucking ghoul.' I

Say what?! That is like the greatest compliment one can receive! Hell, I wish Char would change my rank to that. Think about it, you're not just a ghoul, but a bloodsucking one as well. That's like graduating from cum laude from Scumpro University!

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lindamarshall said:

Thank you, Joseph. I must admit that it is a minority of antis who have abused me but it is very hurtful to be called 'a bloodsucking ghoul.' I

You are my hero!

The worst I get called is rude and insultive.

If they had a clue they would stick to the "murderer has feelings too boards" and they would not be shocked when someone here calls them on their Bull shyt.

[josephdphillips]

agaveman said:

Say what?! That is like the greatest compliment one can receive! Hell, I wish Char would change my rank to that. Think about it, you're not just a ghoul, but a bloodsucking one as well. That's like graduating from cum laude from Scumpro University!

This made me bust out laughing, Erick. You scoundrel.

[ltdc]

agaveman said:

lindamarshall said:

but it is very hurtful to be called 'a bloodsucking ghoul.' I

Say what?! That is like the greatest compliment one can receive! Hell, I wish Char would change my rank to that. Think about it, you're not just a ghoul, but a bloodsucking one as well. That's like graduating from cum laude from Scumpro University!

that's hilarious!!!

maybe you can help Charlene out with a graduated list of names and the requirements to attain them? maybe something more than just # of posts??

[josephdphillips]

ltdc said:

maybe you can help Charlene out with a graduated list of names and the requirements to attain them? maybe something more than just # of posts??

Don't be hatin', LT. It's not just quantity, you know.

[ltdc]

josephdphillips said:

ltdc said:

maybe you can help Charlene out with a graduated list of names and the requirements to attain them? maybe something more than just # of posts??

Don't be hatin', LT. It's not just quantity, you know.

I know, that's my point. # plus maybe certain classic posts people remember, I don't know.

certainly if anyone could come up with appropiate names it would agaveman, don't you think?

[Ariel]

You should see some of the things they called me in a private section of the group I got banned from. 'Stupid *bi+ch*' was about the kindest thing I got labelled.