|
Post by lawrence on Sept 29, 2008 8:39:54 GMT -6
Cali, please don't make me laugh, Ive worked with your best my friend, u guys get a Freaking medal for serving in Germany and passing a basic fitness test, Whoop doo, purple heart with cluster, what did you do to get that, go ashore and get laid by some whore. that would be about the only action you have saw. Yes to your first question, this must really chap *your rear*, and yes i was a cook and no George Siegel wasn't real. It was a film Cali, a film. Unlike you Ive walked the walk and talked the talked as you Hollywood guys like to say. You found the inigma machine didnt you, not the British Navy? Thats just one example of what you guys believe because it was in a film. We say, "Been there done that". Oh by the way if your so good as a Military historian Cali, name me a war (a war, declared war) you guys fought on your own without us in the last century on your own and won? , a real war Cali, not a skirmish like Granada and Guatamala or your pigs ear of a f*** up in Viet Nam or Cuba. Name me one war you actually won all by your selves. ................ big fat none and thats with all the might you have. Embarressed, i would be. You sort of guys Cali are all the same, all the gear and no Freaking idea, always have been and always will be. Whats sad about it is that knobs like you actually believe your better then everyone else. Then you wonder why you get Butt F***ed. Always to cocky for your own good. You had three planes and some local lunatic blow up a building and you think you have been attacked. Thank god, you havent had your cities flattened, Hundreds of thousands of civilians killed cowering from bombs. You have no idea. I dont have to prove myself cali to anyone especially some one like you, like ive said, been there done that, Tet Offensive, im surprised you mentioned that one. Wasnt that another intel F*** up on your part.( Na, these nips wont fight on tet, they will be too busy getting pissed and having fun) They had fun alright. Get back to reading those far right papers you read and listening to the KKK radio because i have no idea where you get all your crap info and racist attitute from. You know what? i actually do respect sdl more then i do you, at least he actually believes in what he writes. You, on the other are FOS as per usual. Yes where they go we go, that includes jumping out of planes. Helicopters. (its called absailing Cali). How far have you yumped with 70 pounds on your back, rifle, spare ammo, Helmet first aid kit and anything else you can carry. I doubt you had anything on your back apart from a light breeze off the beach. Yes i was a good dog Cali with a F*** good bite and gave some. Please name me the region, the unit and where you served with the Marines in Nam Cali, i will make a couple of phone calls and pm you. Where abouts were you when the tet offensive kicked off, were you anywhere near action, i mean real action not what you find in a bar. Like i said rifle expert & Pistol expert. Get a medal for that did you. Get some laural leafs on your chest to make you look like a General. *%#*@*, your armed forces gives them out like sweets. Who you trying to kid, Figure 11 man. Fired in anger, answered that one. Yes and unfortunately killed. have you Cali, have you had nightmares, Felt totally ashamed and horrorfied. The only fire fight you have been in is on the play consul. You wouldnt know real *deleted* your pants fear if it hit u on your fat ass. As for those photos Cali, why did you let everyone believe you were or had served in the Navy. Oh, Bugger me, i assumed wrongly because you put them up on the post. sdl is right, you are full of shyte. What a looser. And i also remember the post about Roosevelt very well. Refusing to join the war in Europe and preaching peace when in the pacific his government was selling arms and equipment to anyone who would buy it. You said you knew Military history, well you didnt answer because if you bothered to read the books with the ISBN no supplied these statements were based on your own Governments secrets and historical papers that were released, you didnt reply because you wouldnt have had a leg to stand on. Go back to the drawing board Cali, read up on your history not just your own and then that of the British Army and name me a war ( a war Cali) you guys fought on your own and won last century? ? None, none without us anyway, and other allies. *%#*@*, sorry but you are. Ignorance is bliss. Patients under fire, none, attack is the best form of defence. Only in one fire fight and that was enough. Oh and no, no one got hit, my SSS thats Squadron Sergeant Major said 17 to nil if i remember rightly. So yes i do say dick. What treatment have you had whilst serving Cali, treatment for VD. Your boring me now actually.
|
|
|
Post by Californian on Sept 29, 2008 10:23:16 GMT -6
Cali, please don't make me laugh, Ive worked with your best my friend, u guys get a Freaking medal for serving in Germany and passing a basic fitness test, Whoop doo, purple heart with cluster, what did you do to get that, go ashore and get laid by some whore. that would be about the only action you have saw. The first award was for being wounded in action as I cared for a chest-shot Marine during a firefight near Hue City. The second was at Khe Sanh Marine Corps base, where I was struck by shrapnel from an NVN artillery burst. I didn't write the movie, Lawrence. Someone in Hollywood did. Yes, the Brits grabbed the first enigma, which Polish mathematicians reverse-engineered at High Wycombe. Then, sailors from USS Guadalcanal scored a naval version of the enigma-which had two extra rotors-on 6/5/44 at sea when they boarded U-505 as it was sinking. We're going to just agree to disagree, Lawrence. I think any reasonable evaluation of history would conclude that England sleeps free today mostly because you allied with the U.S. in the big war. As to the rest of your insulting diatribe, I've been there, done that, and survived to tell about it. I don't think you can say that.
|
|
|
Post by lawrence on Sept 29, 2008 15:01:34 GMT -6
yawn cali, who sided with who cali,see,again your wrong. i believe history showedyou actually sided with us in the great war. whendid u come in 1917, when did we begin? 1914. world war2, who was fighting Germany, Italy and the Japs from 1939? you guys, nope, martians ? nope. thats right, a littleisland called BRITAIN, ring any bells. look cali, i really didnt want to get into a slagging match. ihave huge respect for you guys but this all started with islam in your culture. idont have too explain anything to you or anyone what i didwhen i served. the only difference is your a yank and im a brit. we both owe each other a lot. im immensley proud ofmy country as you are. i just dont think im better then anyone because im a brit. i giverespect where its dueand i dish out if its not. i dont tar everyone with the same brush. youhave a habbit ofthat. from someone who served and as u say, well travelled, u should have a bitmore understanding and a little more respect. its your attitudethat causes problem for your country. it sadens me to hear it fromsome one who should know better.
|
|
|
Post by Californian on Sept 29, 2008 15:51:40 GMT -6
yawn cali, who sided with who cali,see,again your wrong. i believe history showedyou actually sided with us in the great war. whendid u come in 1917, when did we begin? 1914. We just naturally figured you could win a war you declared. We were wrong. Not for the last time. You got 2 out of 3, Lawrence, not bad. Japan declared war on the U.S. and Britain the same day, 12/11/41, that Germany declared war on the U.S. and we immediately reciprocated. Again, Britain declared war on Germany on 9/3/39. You could look it up. I didn't have to. Lawrence, Britain started with the declarations of war. We were in the first stages of recovery from the great depression, and the European war was an ocean away. What exactly were out interests in such a war? It could be reasonably be argued until Germany declared war on the U.S. that we had no interest, and the reason we didn't include a declaration of war against Germany in Roosevvelt's 12/8/41 address to Congress is that FDR knew he couldn't get one.
Without lend/lease in the amount of $28 billion to your nation in the early stages of the war (which included warships you didn't have) England might have lost before 1941. As it was, your army of 400,000 got chased off the continent at Dunkirk, leaving all their equipment behind. You had a bankrupt treasury and just about zero in production capacity, Lawrence. Them's the facts. A little hard to tell from your posts, Lawrence. Lawrence: we're fighting the crazier ones now, and poorly. They are the Nazis, 1934 or so. They will try again. Trust me. The fact that some are nice to you means nothing. After all, Eichmann spoke fluent Yiddish.
|
|
|
Post by RFisher on Sept 29, 2008 23:38:32 GMT -6
Lawrence,
A Navy Hospital Corpsman assigned to U.S. Marines is one of the most dangerous jobs in the "regular" military occupational specialties in the U.S. Armed Forces.
Corpsmen go right up front with Marines in the thickest portions of the battles. They often don't carry rifles, but they did have to carry at least pistols in Viet Nam because the NVA and VC TARGETED them in order of importance only after the radioman and officers. If you wipe out the Corpsman, the unit no longer has a trained medical person who not only can, but has so often saved the lives of even horribly wounded Marines for almost a century now. They have done so since WWI in Europe with the U.S. Marines, BTW.
The fact that they are targeted by enemy personnel at such a high order of importance is the reason why so many of them have received medals for combat wounds and bravery. This because our Navy Corpsmen have a long standing tradition of moving to and even beyond the front lines to care for wounded Marines and routinely demonstrate extreme bravery and compassion while doing so. Most Navy Corpsmen who received the Medal of Honor, have done so posthumously because they so often risked their own lives to save Marines.
Lawrence, U.S. Marines have an affection for our Corpsmen that is almost impossible to explain. They share the combat risks with Marines, but are not armed nearly as well to do the fighting. They are armed primarily for defense and yet they often are wounded or killed because they worry about their wounded Marines more than they do their own lives. The closest any other U.S. service comes to equaling it is most likely the Medics who are in Special Forces or Green Berets.
I wasn't quite old enough to have been in Hue City or Khe Sanh during the Viet Nam War. I turned 18 on October 6 of 1971 and was in Marine Corps Boot Camp one week later. I did this so my parents would sign for me to go into the Marines on the delayed entry program when I was a 17 year old Senior in High School. I graduated still at age 17 and went that fall to Recruit Training. I was trained by Marines who fought at Khe Sanh and Hue City. That training helped ensure I lived when we fought NVA in Cambodia.
My Boot Camp Platoon Commander (in those days a SSgt (E6) got one of his two Silver Stars at Khe Sanh. His citation read in part the reason for him getting it.........Sgt Ward's unit was being overrun by Enemy Forces. Sgt Ward set the leadership example that not only stopped the unit from being overrun, but led to the eventual counter attack that saved Khe Sanh. Sgt. Ward's example of strangling one enemy soldier with his left hand while he beat 5 other enemy soldiers to death with an entrenching tool in his right hand - was what earned him one of his two Silver Stars. (SSgt Ward and most of the first line of battle had ran out of ammo fighting off the VC and his weapon had been shattered by a grenade fragment.)
Khe Sanh to Marines was the Thermopylae or Battle of the Alamo, BUT the Marines won through. We had a lot of help from Artillery adn Air Support from all the U.S. Armed forces including B52 bombers. However, the odds were overwhelming and many other units would have been wiped out.
The Battle of Hue City was also the stuff of Marine Legend. Anyone who fought at EITHER place has my deepest respect. The Corpsmen who were with us in those battles shared some of the toughest battles of Marine Corps History, including that of WWII and WWI.
The U.S. Marines don't hand out medals like the other U.S. Armed Forces do. We, at most, will get at least one if not two grades of lesser medals than any other U.S. service for the same action. Navy Corpsmen serving with Marines "share" that same lesser degree of medal awards because it is U.S. Marines who put them in for the medals. Actually, this is one thing that we are very much like British forces in how we give out medals.
Any Navy Corpsman that shared the field of battle with Marines in any time and place - is my beloved brother.
Sincerely, RFisher Master Gunnery Sergeant, USMC (ret)
|
|
|
Post by lawrence on Sept 30, 2008 1:31:13 GMT -6
Fish , to you my respect and thank you for that interesting and truthful account of your experiences. Ive pm you. But i will not give way to Cali in any way. We were doing quite nicely thank you Cali, and yes thanks to your equipment which we PAID for every cent. Finished that debt this year. At least we had the balls to stand up to tyranny when faced with it. The point is we just didn't sit back and give way or back down, depression or no depression we didn't back down. I agree we were hypocritical because if we had any self respect we would have declared war on Russia. I guess the *deleted* in charge at that time realized that might have been a bridge to far. so we are not perfect either. Cali, please again read your history, not just the American Version. We were fighting the Japs from officially without a declaration of war from when Hostilities broke out in November 19th 1939 when the Japanese sank a British merchant ship removing service men families from Hong Kong, Singapore and Malaya. Britain's Secret war with japan 1937-1945 by Douglas Ford. ISBN No 978-415-35846-0 Its an interesting read if you cant sleep at night . Try it it will open your eyes to what we were doing against the japs long before they were a threat to you. We told you what they were up to but Roosevelt's foreign office refused to believe the Intel we gave you. Why, because you guys were playing for political positioning. We declared war On Germany Cali because they invaded Allies, that meant something to us. I will give way on your position of recovery Cali, but that recovery when it came was with your Military production and military industry suppling the world the tools for war. Depression or no depression Cali you don't desert your friends. You mention your interests. Cali, please, that remark amazed me. What was your country founded on., Freedom, Liberty and Justice. Or does that only mean for you guys and anyone else only when we say so? I have watched that black and white speech and it was because not of the depression but because the WW1 was still fresh in the minds and because Europe was so far away. No other reason Cali. You don't desert your friends. We might well have lost Cali but we didn't give in against horrendous odds. We didn't surrender. We paid for every bullet, rifle, tank, plane and warship Cali and you know that to be true, We may have been bankrupt but we didn't give in and we didn't surrender.The expeditionary force was 98,000 strong in 1939, we lost inaction 27000 dead, 23,000 wounded Cali before we were so chased off the Continent but we didn't give in and we didn't surrender. I also have huge respect for the French who came with us, the Polish and Czechs who fought in our Air Force during the Battle of Britain. I also have huge respect for the Empire soldiers and the Yanks who joined the fight and joined our regiments and air force and navy before you guys officially entered the war. Max Clifford's Book on Fortress Britain estimated 9000 Americans were fighting in our Army, Navy and Air force before you guys joined in. 9000 Cali. They were brave men, they saw what was coming and did something about it. Why were we bankrupt Cali, because we were fighting a war Cali, How much are you currently spending a month in Iraq and Afghanistan? 10 billion, And as for our industrial output being Zero ... why was that Cali? ? because unlike you guys who have never experienced it, our country was bing destroyed by the German Air force. But again did we give in, did we surrender. NOPE. Please don't try and teach me history. I will also say again regarding your fears. You not fighting Islam Cali, your fighting Terrorists and only about 0.01% of the Billion Muslims on this planet. Are they Arming themselves for the match of the millennium? do you see them arming them selfs, I'm not talking about tin pots like Iran's government Cali, or Syria if you want to include them in your nightmares. A few scumbags use Islam as a way of recruiting young and volatile and easily influenced impressionable men and woman to take up arms and fight. Thats all, a minute proportion yet you tar everyone with the same brush. You paranoid Cali, i do not fear Islam, i respect it and i watch it carefully. I'm not stupid, i understand where your coming from but until i see a clear and present danger from Islam (not just a bunch of nutters) i will not fear it. If you do you become afraid and when afraid you become ignorant of the situation and make mistakes. I agree they are not to be underestimated but i do not fear them Cali because of a few guys flying planes into building no matter how shocking that was. I have more fear over the drugs from Afghanistan then the bloody terrorists.
|
|
|
Post by honeyroastedpeanut on Sept 30, 2008 15:44:29 GMT -6
Cali, please don't make me laugh, Ive worked with your best my friend, u guys get a Freaking medal for serving in Germany and passing a basic fitness test, Whoop doo, purple heart with cluster, what did you do to get that, go ashore and get laid by some whore. I always wondered about one thing: I've heard that there were many Vietcong women among the prostitutes in Saigon etc. If a GI got a STD from a Charlie hooker, was he officially wounded?
|
|
|
Post by Felix2 on Sept 30, 2008 16:01:41 GMT -6
Cali, please don't make me laugh, Ive worked with your best my friend, u guys get a Freaking medal for serving in Germany and passing a basic fitness test, Whoop doo, purple heart with cluster, what did you do to get that, go ashore and get laid by some whore. I always wondered about one thing: I've heard that there were many Vietcong women among the prostitutes in Saigon etc. If a GI got a STD from a Charlie hooker, was he officially wounded? No, they were only considered wounded if the hooker did'nt send a postcard, or write to them later and stuff like that!
|
|
|
Post by honeyroastedpeanut on Sept 30, 2008 16:12:36 GMT -6
I always wondered about one thing: I've heard that there were many Vietcong women among the prostitutes in Saigon etc. If a GI got a STD from a Charlie hooker, was he officially wounded? No, they were only considered wounded if the hooker did'nt send a postcard, or write to them later and stuff like that! Or when you later discover that it was a transvestite... But I guess that's something more likely to happen to you in Thailand. But what do you expect of a country with a capital named Bang-kok and where a common girl's name is Supaporn... ;D
|
|
|
Post by johnbgraf on Oct 1, 2008 20:34:33 GMT -6
But to be fair I am only friends with them so I can gert my share of the 70 virgins thing if that is true. [/quote] Felix, did you know that in the Islamic culture, woman are only used for pro-creation and little virgin boys are used for pleasure? So why 70 virgins Felix??? Your a sick man Felix...or should we start calling you ... Michael Jackson...
|
|
|
Post by Californian on Oct 1, 2008 22:35:29 GMT -6
Cali, please don't make me laugh, Ive worked with your best my friend, u guys get a Freaking medal for serving in Germany and passing a basic fitness test, Whoop doo, purple heart with cluster, what did you do to get that, go ashore and get laid by some whore. I always wondered about one thing: I've heard that there were many Vietcong women among the prostitutes in Saigon etc. If a GI got a STD from a Charlie hooker, was he officially wounded? I heard that a guy who was getting oral sex was bitten by a hooker who turned out to be a VC and then got a PH, but I thought that was *bullcrap* at the time and still do.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2008 23:43:47 GMT -6
islam has a bad press at the moment... Ya don't say? A multiple-choice quiz that tests your memory of Islam's crimes against the United States of America. #1 In 1968 who assassinated Robert Kennedy? (a) Abbie Hoffman (b) Tiny Tim (c) Charles Manson (d) Muslim male extremist between the age of 17 and 40 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan"Sirhan was born in Jerusalem[1] to Christian parents and was raised in the Maronite Church. In his adult life however, he made several religious conversions, joining Baptist and Seventh-day Adventist churches"And speaking of his fellow Christians... Paul Hill Timothy McVeigh Joseph Paul Franklin Michael Griffin Robert Matthews Eric Rudolph James Kopp Clayton Waagner Shelley Shannon Buford Furrow John Salvi
|
|
|
Post by lawrence on Oct 2, 2008 0:13:13 GMT -6
sdl, all i can about that list is that; "some mothers dont half have them" This has bored me now i must admit. This is the first threat i have actually seen red and it was unpleasent. Not all muslims are looney's, I have said my piece and i shall leave it at that.
|
|
|
Post by honeyroastedpeanut on Oct 2, 2008 1:23:07 GMT -6
I always wondered about one thing: I've heard that there were many Vietcong women among the prostitutes in Saigon etc. If a GI got a STD from a Charlie hooker, was he officially wounded? I heard that a guy who was getting oral sex was bitten by a hooker who turned out to be a VC and then got a PH, but I thought that was *bullcrap* at the time and still do. Uuuuh... What's a PH? Really hope it's not true... ;D
|
|
|
Post by lawrence on Oct 2, 2008 1:58:13 GMT -6
Gutten Morgan Peanuts. I think its Purple Heart. Its a medal they dish out when some one does something incredibly brave or incredibly stupid depending on your point of view. We were on excises once in Brunei and when on RR (5 day break) we went to Banger Seria (forgive the spelling) and in this ex pat bar (for alcohol, Its a muslim country) there were some rather fabulous looking thin and sexy woman. Anyways, something wasn't quite right. When you have had a few beers a moose looks like Marilyn Monroe. Anyways, theres this Scotsman (a cook) shame on him , fancied this little bird so he took her upstairs and this ex pat said i hope he knows what hes just picked up, if not hes in for a shock. Anyway, 5 minutes went by, then 15, then 45 minutes. He then appeared with a huge smile ON his face. We looked at him and said where have you been for so long, anyway he told us what happened and said when i got down to the nitty gritty and put his hands down to the cellar he found meat and two veg. He said i looked at the guy, shrugged my shoulders and thought what the hell and through him on all fours and shagged it anyway. We couldn't stop laughing, not only in shock but what he did. he was an animal. , it still kills me now.
|
|
|
Post by Felix2 on Oct 2, 2008 2:43:45 GMT -6
But to be fair I am only friends with them so I can gert my share of the 70 virgins thing if that is true. Felix, did you know that in the Islamic culture, woman are only used for pro-creation and little virgin boys are used for pleasure? So why 70 virgins Felix??? Your a sick man Felix...or should we start calling you ... Michael Jackson... [/quote]Hang on a minute, I must not have read the small print, from the outset I assumed the seventy were all exclusively female! If its the way you have described then that changes things greatly! LOL
|
|
|
Post by honeyroastedpeanut on Oct 2, 2008 5:34:35 GMT -6
Gutten Morgan Peanuts. I think its Purple Heart. Its a medal they dish out when some one does something incredibly brave or incredibly stupid depending on your point of view. We were on excises once in Brunei and when on RR (5 day break) we went to Banger Seria (forgive the spelling) and in this ex pat bar (for alcohol, Its a muslim country) there were some rather fabulous looking thin and sexy woman. Anyways, something wasn't quite right. When you have had a few beers a moose looks like Marilyn Monroe. Anyways, theres this Scotsman (a cook) shame on him , fancied this little bird so he took her upstairs and this ex pat said i hope he knows what hes just picked up, if not hes in for a shock. Anyway, 5 minutes went by, then 15, then 45 minutes. He then appeared with a huge smile ON his face. We looked at him and said where have you been for so long, anyway he told us what happened and said when i got down to the nitty gritty and put his hands down to the cellar he found meat and two veg. He said i looked at the guy, shrugged my shoulders and thought what the hell and through him on all fours and shagged it anyway. We couldn't stop laughing, not only in shock but what he did. he was an animal. , it still kills me now. Great story! A friend of mine was in Prague with his soccer team. They went to a bar and a quite attractive girl focussed one of his co players - she was a professional. Well, he went out with her and they all didn't see him up to the next morning. Then they asked him what happened and he replied "What do you think?". My friend asked him: "Have you been careful?". He replied: "Yeah, pulled it out before the fireworks started.". My friend then said: "Well, I'm not only referring to pregnancy here but also to HIV and stuff!" The guy then said: "Yeah, as I said. I pulled it out in time, man!". They all laughed at him for his stupidity. For that he at least would have deserved some minor STD. I think it turned by a check up out he was very lucky...
|
|
|
Post by lawrence on Oct 2, 2008 7:34:00 GMT -6
Well i hope he learnt a valuable lesson, i have loads of friends in prague and now the old town very well but thats not where the action is, if you go up near the main station to the right of the opera house there is a road that takes you up towards the tall TV tower, know where i mean, well up there my friend are some very tasty bars. I know this because a good friend of mine is quite a well know porn star, or was , i think she still makes them. Absolutely fantastic girl, university graduate and all that but just loves sex. she has shown me all the best clubs where to go, the ones that are not known to tourists and they are great fun, mind you it helps to speak the lingo or at least understand the basics. I dont know if you have ever been to Kunovice, Haradiste or Brno but down south of the country those girls are worse then the pols. They just love the Brits. Man that girl could eat a carrot through a letter box. I love Prague. But your friend is a bit dim, you always rubber up. a very lucky boy.
|
|
|
Post by Felix2 on Oct 2, 2008 8:16:02 GMT -6
Well i hope he learnt a valuable lesson, i have loads of friends in prague and now the old town very well but thats not where the action is, if you go up near the main station to the right of the opera house there is a road that takes you up towards the tall TV tower, know where i mean, well up there my friend are some very tasty bars. I know this because a good friend of mine is quite a well know porn star, or was , i think she still makes them. Absolutely fantastic girl, university graduate and all that but just loves sex. she has shown me all the best clubs where to go, the ones that are not known to tourists and they are great fun, mind you it helps to speak the lingo or at least understand the basics. I dont know if you have ever been to Kunovice, Haradiste or Brno but down south of the country those girls are worse then the pols. They just love the Brits. Man that girl could eat a carrot through a letter box. I love Prague. But your friend is a bit dim, you always rubber up. a very lucky boy. Jeeze lawrence, Tenby last weekend must have been some comedown after that. Yes, prague, all my colleagues there make me jealous, the female PC brigade will catch with them too eventually my old Consultant friend in london assures me, but I think he's only hoping!
|
|
|
Post by lawrence on Oct 2, 2008 8:34:36 GMT -6
Hey Felix, Tenby rocks wioth a 2 & 1/2 year old, the beaches are fab and no brighton rocks anywhere . a few years back me and Jo nearly bought a flat in Prage and in the end didnt. Bloody stupid, it was for 3,000,000 krowns in those days about Ā£75,000. Wish we did now, those flats are going at a cool 1/2 million. Ever felt pig sick , when i was working back in Surry after i got out the mob we also nearly bought one of the marina flats in Brighton, only a 2 bedroom job again 75000, now they are selling at arounf 300,000. I said to Jo next time we bloody buy when i say so. But Prague has to be my favourite city after Berlin. Just Love it. the beer is second to none, the people are just to good to be true and the nightlife is amazing. Its the only place where i feel like im in my 20's again, no one cares who you are where your from they just PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARTAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
|
|
|
Post by Felix2 on Oct 2, 2008 8:40:26 GMT -6
Hey Felix, Tenby rocks wioth a 2 & 1/2 year old, the beaches are fab and no brighton rocks anywhere . a few years back me and Jo nearly bought a flat in Prage and in the end didnt. Bloody stupid, it was for 3,000,000 krowns in those days about Ā£75,000. Wish we did now, those flats are going at a cool 1/2 million. Ever felt pig sick , when i was working back in Surry after i got out the mob we also nearly bought one of the marina flats in Brighton, only a 2 bedroom job again 75000, now they are selling at arounf 300,000. I said to Jo next time we bloody buy when i say so. But Prague has to be my favourite city after Berlin. Just Love it. the beer is second to none, the people are just to good to be true and the nightlife is amazing. Its the only place where i feel like im in my 20's again, no one cares who you are where your from they just PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARTAHHHHHHHHHHHHH Going to tenby you literally passed my ranch withing a quarter of a mile as you pass exit 48 of the M4. Give me your mobile for the next time and we can grab a few beers.
|
|
|
Post by Californian on Oct 2, 2008 9:28:51 GMT -6
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan"Sirhan was born in Jerusalem[1] to Christian parents and was raised in the Maronite Church. In his adult life however, he made several religious conversions, joining Baptist and Seventh-day Adventist churches" From your link: "Sirhan supposedly believed he was deliberately betrayed by Kennedy's support for Israel in the June 1967 Six-Day War,[11] which had begun exactly one year before the assassination. However, a diary entry, reading "RFK must die," which was found after the assassination, was shown to have been written before Kennedy's support of Israel became public knowledge.[12] After his arrest, a spiral-bound notebook was found containing this diary entry, several others, and many nonsensical, stream-of-consciousness scribbles." Sounds like a muzzie to me.
|
|
|
Post by honeyroastedpeanut on Oct 2, 2008 11:39:55 GMT -6
I dont know if you have ever been to Kunovice, Haradiste or Brno but down south of the country those girls are worse then the pols. They just love the Brits. Man that girl could eat a carrot through a letter box. I love Prague. But your friend is a bit dim, you always rubber up. a very lucky boy. Well, this whole prostitution is one thing. But two friends of mine went by train to Romania. In some Czech village the train stopped - it was in the late evening - and the trainstation closed for the night. So they just slept outside on the bottom. In the morning an old guy accomponied by an approximately 14 year old girl, his daughter, came by and "offered" her to one of my friends! He told me that at first he was just shocked but then yelled at him for being such a sadistic, heartless pervert. So there's a real dirty side to this whole sex tourism in the Czech Republic. Sadly especially the Czech border region to Bavaria and Saxony is loaded with brothels where you do not only find girls 18+ and even the 18+ girls might be forced to do that. It's disgusting...
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2008 16:29:49 GMT -6
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan"Sirhan was born in Jerusalem[1] to Christian parents and was raised in the Maronite Church. In his adult life however, he made several religious conversions, joining Baptist and Seventh-day Adventist churches" From your link: "Sirhan supposedly believed he was deliberately betrayed by Kennedy's support for Israel in the June 1967 Six-Day War,[11] which had begun exactly one year before the assassination. However, a diary entry, reading "RFK must die," which was found after the assassination, was shown to have been written before Kennedy's support of Israel became public knowledge.[12] After his arrest, a spiral-bound notebook was found containing this diary entry, several others, and many nonsensical, stream-of-consciousness scribbles." Sounds like a muzzie to me. Go google the name Dr. George Habash and see what you learn...
|
|
|
Post by Elric of Melnibone on Oct 2, 2008 16:47:32 GMT -6
habsh is a terrorist. No matter what sdl or the plo say.
|
|
|
Post by Californian on Oct 2, 2008 17:50:49 GMT -6
I heard that a guy who was getting oral sex was bitten by a hooker who turned out to be a VC and then got a PH, but I thought that was *bullcrap* at the time and still do. Uuuuh... What's a PH? Really hope it's not true... ;D A Purple Heart, a U.S. award for being "wounded in action."
|
|
|
Post by Californian on Oct 2, 2008 17:53:30 GMT -6
Go google the name Dr. George Habash and see what you learn... Go Google the names Julius Rosenberg, Ethel Rosenberg, and Jonathan Pollard and see what similarities you can discern.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2008 20:27:41 GMT -6
Go google the name Dr. George Habash and see what you learn... Go Google the names Julius Rosenberg, Ethel Rosenberg, and Jonathan Pollard and see what similarities you can discern. They didn't kill anybody..unlike your idol Joseph Paul Franklin...
|
|
|
Post by RFisher on Oct 2, 2008 23:33:51 GMT -6
Lawrence,
I've read over the discussion about WWII you and Cali have been having. We can look back and arm chair quarter back it, but we have to consider what was going on at the time.
My perspective on it is a bit different as I had two Grandfathers who served in WWI. What is funny is that one was a Democrat and one was a Republican who didn't agree on a lot of things, but they BOTH agreed we should not have gotten into it until we were attacked.
We have shared anecdotes and you have provided excellent resources on how miserably the Allied Generals ran WWI. We didn't fight near as long as the UK or France and didn't take nearly the numbers of grievous casualties, but we took some pretty grievous losses following the same general strategies. Most Allied veterans of that war were extremely disgusted with how the war had been run and the fact that the European governments had been spoiling for that war for years prior to it actually beginning.
Following the war, our veterans marched on DC and camped out all over the place to demand fair treatment that they were not receiving. General MacArthur has been held to task for how roughly he handled and kicked out those veterans. It is still to our national shame how poorly we treated the veterans of "The War to End all Wars..........Part I."
Instead of peace and prosperity, the veterans then had to survive the Great Depression. This was true around the world and all WWI veterans were very upset with it. There was a great deal of dissatisfaction in the US, the UK and France about how the governments had allowed it to happen after the veterans had shed their blood on the killing fields of France. They rightly figured they had once again given their governments a chance to correct things and they had earned peace and prosperity.
MANY WWI veterans in both our countries were against getting involved in WWII, as well as many civilians who were finally just starting to get over the Depression. That's part of the reason Neville Chamberlain did what he did.
I will certainly agree that France and the UK led the fight against the Tyranny of both Nazi Germany and Japan. I will also agree that the UK did much more in the early years and thanks to a Half American Prime Minister by the name of Winston Churchill; stood up with bravery and held the line until we changed our minds about the war.
But to the U.S. generation who had fought in WWI - WWII initially looked nothing more than the governments of Europe had learned nothing and just wanted to go to war again. There is also some real truth in how after WWI - Germany not only was correctly made to pay reparations, but was treated with such a heavy hand by France and to a much lesser extent by the UK, that WWII was inevitable. That wasn't a good enough reason to shed even more American blood when the governments of Europe had sure looked they had learned nothing from WWI.
I also have to tell you that France giving up so easily in WWII, was a very large part of why so many in the US did not want to readily join in the war. There were quite some people in your country who felt the same way, BUT you all were being severely attacked and threatened with invasion.
Had Hitler not attacked you all directly and so directly threatened invasion, don't you think your country would have been more reluctant to fight on the Continent? Especially had you not had a Half American Prime Minister? (Just can't stop myself from adding that. Winston Churchill was the epitome of a Briton, to be sure, but I can't help but think he got a little something of the American Character from his Mother.)
As to fighting the Japanese. America initially looked at that as both yours and the Japanese Empires as fighting over possessions of Empires. If you were in our shoes, and not a military veteran, you might well have seen it the same way.
FDR most likely did the best he could to help you all considering what he was up against in this country. And that help to the UK and Russia was a lot more significant than most folks today can even dream about.
Ultimately, though, it was the stupidity of Japan and Germany who brought us fully into the war.
|
|
|
Post by lawrence on Oct 3, 2008 1:51:09 GMT -6
Elric, one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. Take the IRA, quite a nasty little bunch that did cause us a few problems over the years. To us they a were terrorists, like the UVF or the other Loyalists to the UNION but to a large amount of Americans they were freedom fighters. What ever and who ever is a terorrist/freedom fighter, you have to have respect for them, if not you will get *your rear* burnt. At the end of the day, diplomacy is better then the bullet or the bomb. To some of these organisations, i call them that lightly, it takes a while for the penny to drop. The IRA/republican party have ade more headway since abandoning the bullet then they ever did with the bomb
Personal opinions should come into this. A person who shoots dead an innocent or plants a bomb against an innocent are terrorists.. Period. If they attack only the military and government buildings directly involved in the fight against them then you could call them freedom fighters. Remeber it was the Brits who gave birth to Israel. We are indirectly or directly responsible for the mess in the middle east. Hoever saying that they have had enough time to get their act together.
|
|