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Post by whitediamonds on Jan 4, 2015 14:07:21 GMT -6
The DP one more time, I do not believe has a deterrent, I am a pro, but personally never did say or buy that. If you follow stats over the yrs, crimes spike & go down. My backs not to the wall only my time. It also does not mean you won the debate & anti stance is now solid. I already explained in the archives you will find the anwers you want or questions same ole questions asked many time's over, not just mine but many other's too.
I have never told or posted to anyone ever until now go find it in the arcgives until Nils did what he did. You have a lot of excuses. now out right lied . I never stated that "before" let alone many times. If anyone wants to find out themselves, if I did you have my screen name. Your in good company I see , amusing that inmates are anti DP too.
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Post by bernard on Jan 4, 2015 14:50:51 GMT -6
I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT SOMEDAY ALL YOUR PIOUS ARROGANCE COMES BACK TO BITE YOU IN THE A$$. I'VE MISSED YOU TOO SHARON. A GREAT PERSON ONCE WROTE: "HISTORY IS DESTINED TO REPEAT ITSELF. THE FIRST TIME IN LOWER CASE. THE SECOND IN CAPS." What was the evidence that these people were genuine antis---people of principle---as opposed to trolls or people who are "convenient" antis for as long as their favorite scumbag needs a lifeline? Evidence you won't share is evidence for you only, not for the rest of us. Which is fine if you don't care what we think, but in that case why bother addressing us? If you're too busy to engage properly with the forum, leave. If you want revenge, buy a shotgun. Society's job is to protect itself from dangerous scumbags, not to exact revenge on your behalf.
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Post by bernard on Jan 4, 2015 15:07:22 GMT -6
I already explained in the archives you will find the anwers you want or questions same ole questions asked many time's over, not just mine but many other's too. If you are no longer interested in making new contributions to the forum you ought go join Doc, Consequences and all the rest who couldn't handle the debate. Leave. Rest assured your thoughts will remain in the archives for those who wish to go look. What about this: prodp.proboards.com/thread/32137?page=6Lots of accusations of what "antis" have done. No proof. Murderers are only "antis" when it comes to themselves. For everyone else, they make themselves judge, jury and executioner.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 15:15:00 GMT -6
Evidence I won't share??? Excuse me Matthew5vwtfever. You were here and you witnessed it, too. So, don't say you have to see it to believe it. You did!!! I said I didn't care what you think. Thank you for noticing. I addressed you because you do not care about any of this and you do this to make yourself appear to be something YOU ARE NOT.
You have left for how long? I don't think you have the right to tell me to leave. That is not your place.
You get upset because people won't admit to revenge and when someone does admit to it then you act like I want you to do it for me. Same old Matthew, twist and turn and hope no one notices. Society doesn't have a dog in these fights, real people do and they might want your intelligence and wisdom in the situation but I would bet an overwhelming majority doesn't .
Face the facts matthew you are here to belittle, berate, and try to humiliate because that is what you like to do. You want to be the winner and I guess in your mind you are but do you ever consider what you have won???
One last thing... Don't have to buy a shotgun. Got a few of them there weapons. If we depended on others to protect us from danger than you would have to admit that you are not doing a very good job of it.
Funny thing is that you knew who I was immediately. I don't come here under another name, I don't try to pretend I'm someone else. Why do others have to??
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Post by bernard on Jan 4, 2015 15:33:53 GMT -6
Funny thing is that you knew who I was immediately. I think you're secretly flattered. It's a good question. I would guess that some people like throwing off their day to day identity. Others want privacy from creeps they might meet on the internet. Some people feel like they can speak more honestly in anonymity. Others are trolls. Others want to start over without the baggage from last time they were on the forum. I really can't speak for everyone, but I think it is important to have places like this where people can speak their minds with some kind of privacy. It's one of the ways in which forums like this might outcompete Facebook as time goes by. I missed most of the episodes during the time I was here. I would usually post at night, by which time the day's drama had gone by and the relevant thread deleted. Lynne would assure me in pm that terrible things were said. But that was usually the most I saw. As I say, I'm not convinced that the people I saw were genuine antis coming from a place of principle. They were trolls and freaks, coming here to get a rise from people or because they were penpals with scum. Scumpals are only "antis" because their snuggle-nubs is on the row. That doesn't count.
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Post by bernard on Jan 4, 2015 15:45:49 GMT -6
I was suggesting the shotgun for revenge, not protection. That's what you said you were interested in.
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Post by bernard on Jan 4, 2015 15:53:07 GMT -6
Face the facts matthew you are here to belittle, berate, and try to humiliate because that is what you like to do. I'm also here to enjoy your aggressive flirting. The keys to your heart. Deny it all you want. And you knew me. What will people say?
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Post by whitediamonds on Jan 4, 2015 15:59:54 GMT -6
[quote source="/post/624602/thread" timestamp="1420406100" . Scumpals are only "antis" because their snuggle-nubs is on the row. That is proven to be factual, as well as the murderers on DR or murderers serving "real" LWOP are Anti's too.
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Post by bernard on Jan 4, 2015 16:02:23 GMT -6
[quote source="/post/624602/thread" timestamp="1420406100" . Scumpals are only "antis" because their snuggle-nubs is on the row. That is proven to be factual, as well as the murderers on DR or murderers serving "real" LWOP are Anti's too. I'm glad we agree.
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Post by brumsongs on Jan 4, 2015 16:12:08 GMT -6
It's worth remembering that laws are enacted as an abstract expression of experience, opinion and feeling. That's the democratic process. Whilst they must be applied dispassionately, to claim that anyone with a dog in the race- for instance the friends and relatives of victims and perps, is to miss the point of debate and marginalise the voices of those whom the law affects directly. Semantics can never solve the wordless mystery of human pain.
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Post by bernard on Jan 5, 2015 10:57:13 GMT -6
It's worth remembering that laws are enacted as an abstract expression of experience, opinion and feeling. That's the democratic process. Whilst they must be applied dispassionately, to claim that anyone with a dog in the race- for instance the friends and relatives of victims and perps, is to miss the point of debate and marginalise the voices of those whom the law affects directly. Semantics can never solve the wordless mystery of human pain. You seem to be suggesting that the friends and relatives of murderers deserve to be heard just as much as the friends and relatives of victims. Please clarify if that is what you had in mind.
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Post by brumsongs on Jan 5, 2015 17:30:32 GMT -6
No, I'm saying that, by its nature, this issue can only be discussed with reference to the extreme and disparate feelings of those involved in it. It's not tax law or even abortion- there are no abstracts involved. To some people in the debate there is only endless pain and a wish for the law to reflect that in some way. No, the feelings of those connected to murderers cannot be equated to those connected to victims- the central fact of the crime makes that distinction. However, the nature of the debate should be shaped by empathy for both. Abstraction just doesn't cut it with regards to this issue.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jan 5, 2015 19:36:47 GMT -6
When we really mean the words" the right to life " that will be the only time I will become an anti.
On one hand the world has an anti "life" culture. Just for being ( inconvenient/ not wanted). I just cannot wrap my head around that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 19:44:16 GMT -6
Face the facts matthew you are here to belittle, berate, and try to humiliate because that is what you like to do. I'm also here to enjoy your aggressive flirting. The keys to your heart. Deny it all you want. And you knew me. What will people say? I take it all back. YOU'RE CRAZY!!! First laugh I've had all day..
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Post by bernard on Jan 6, 2015 16:27:23 GMT -6
It's worth remembering that laws are enacted as an abstract expression of experience, opinion and feeling. Maybe so, but they shouldn't be. Laws passed against the jews in Germany were unjust, even if they reflected the experiences, opinions and feelings of the anti-semitic German population.
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Post by bernard on Jan 6, 2015 16:28:11 GMT -6
When we really mean the words" the right to life " that will be the only time I will become an anti. You can commit to defending the right to life without waiting for everybody else.
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