lordextinct
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Post by lordextinct on Sept 14, 2014 12:57:06 GMT -6
I honestly cannot understand exactly what You are hoping to bring about with Your posts! I should definately say that You are most entitled to have Your own opinions, and long live freedom of speech! You also seems like quite a decent old body, if You allow me to use that expression... However, isn´t it slightly uncomfortable among all the supporters of Death Penalty? I assume You are as rare within this discussion board, as I am among all the opponents of capital punishment here in Sweden. You would presumably open the finest bottle of champagne, if the US announced it had reached a Point where an abolishing of the Death penalty throughout the country had become the news of the day! What an opportunity for You, Sir, to exult. However, that scenario is not available within a forseeable future! Sincerely Yours Lordextinct, a great fan of riksskarprättare Anders Gustaf Dahlman. Post scriptum: No offense intended.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 23:03:49 GMT -6
I believe the death penalty doesn't deter Prison doesn't deter people will keep murdering no matter what the circumstances are For example take Texas they execute the most people in the country but murders keep happening, hell if I were in Texas I would be shaking in my boots just walking down the street knowing what could happen, just imagine being sent to Polunsky unit- sheesh..
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Post by whitediamonds on Sept 17, 2014 9:01:24 GMT -6
I believe the death penalty doesn't deter Prison doesn't deter people will keep murdering no matter what the circumstances are . I agree, nothing deter's murderers even LWOP .
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Post by whitediamonds on Sept 17, 2014 11:24:57 GMT -6
I believe the death penalty doesn't deter Prison doesn't deter people will keep murdering no matter what the circumstances are . I agree, nothing deter's murderers even LWOP . No sentence time deters crimianls for any crimes.
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Post by starbux on Sept 23, 2014 23:50:09 GMT -6
So what Nils, you are comparing the 1600's to now! Back then you could executed for being a witch. Oh BTW for the first few hundred years those exuctions were under the British mandate. This is a skewed data set. Yeah they have gone down thanks to your friends in the sense that we have to wait 30 years to zap an A-Hole. But they will come back in full force because we have plenty of condemned to finish off and more added to the list every day. Please allow a newbie (but one of the right spirit, I hope...) to express some of the relief I find in Your outstanding posts! I cannot interface to these lethal injections, and perhaps I´m slightly too old fashioned. Therefore I shall hereby take the Liberty of asking You, valued member of this Community, what is Your opininon of the capital punishment OPTIONS? Could You, by any chance, welcome a guillotine as a secure and efficient tool for the executioner? It is my firm conviction that this form of execution is one of the highly recommendable alternatives ever. The other options, as I see, are Death by hanging or as a third one, Death by a a squadron with fire arms. Build the scaffolds up within the prison areas, I say! The Days of official executions are probably a chapter that will never be reinstated... However, whom may possess any total knowledge of what the future holds? Considering the scheduled execution of this Billy Ray Irick in Tennessee, who raped and murdered a seven year old girl in 1985, I would personally and nota bene for free be honoured to raise the broad axe above his neck in public. It is about time the delinquent pays his debt to society. Thank You!
In theory the Guillotine is most humane method of death. A super sharp blade with mass cuts all of the nerve centers immediately. The brain gets sensory over loaded and puts the patient in hyper shock and they are out as soon as the head is off. They maybe still alive but the brain can not process any information in that small amount of time. By the time the brain would be aware of the damage the oxygenated blood is now gone and the nervous system is now offline. Within a minute of no replenishing blood supply and dielectrics the neurons are in effect dead. Ironically even though it is a more humane death, people hate blood and think it is barbaric. Personally I want them to feel pain so I would the guillotine so it is dull so that way will cause some pain. I would be for bringing back all 3. I hat LI because it looks more like going under in a medical procedure than being punished to death. I like the chair personally. I like them putting on the helmet and being strapped in a chair that does not a piece of medical equipment. It looks like a piece of punishment equipment. You that inmate is trembling when looking at that shiny oak chair.
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Post by oslooskar on Sept 24, 2014 17:53:03 GMT -6
Please allow a newbie (but one of the right spirit, I hope...) to express some of the relief I find in Your outstanding posts! I cannot interface to these lethal injections, and perhaps I´m slightly too old fashioned. Therefore I shall hereby take the Liberty of asking You, valued member of this Community, what is Your opininon of the capital punishment OPTIONS? Could You, by any chance, welcome a guillotine as a secure and efficient tool for the executioner? It is my firm conviction that this form of execution is one of the highly recommendable alternatives ever. The other options, as I see, are Death by hanging or as a third one, Death by a a squadron with fire arms. Build the scaffolds up within the prison areas, I say! The Days of official executions are probably a chapter that will never be reinstated... However, whom may possess any total knowledge of what the future holds? Considering the scheduled execution of this Billy Ray Irick in Tennessee, who raped and murdered a seven year old girl in 1985, I would personally and nota bene for free be honoured to raise the broad axe above his neck in public. It is about time the delinquent pays his debt to society. Thank You!
In theory the Guillotine is most humane method of death. A super sharp blade with mass cuts all of the nerve centers immediately. The brain gets sensory over loaded and puts the patient in hyper shock and they are out as soon as the head is off. They maybe still alive but the brain can not process any information in that small amount of time. By the time the brain would be aware of the damage the oxygenated blood is now gone and the nervous system is now offline. Within a minute of no replenishing blood supply and dielectrics the neurons are in effect dead. Ironically even though it is a more humane death, people hate blood and think it is barbaric. Personally I want them to feel pain so I would the guillotine so it is dull so that way will cause some pain. I would be for bringing back all 3. I hat LI because it looks more like going under in a medical procedure than being punished to death. I like the chair personally. I like them putting on the helmet and being strapped in a chair that does not a piece of medical equipment. It looks like a piece of punishment equipment. You that inmate is trembling when looking at that shiny oak chair. There is no doubt in my mind that a large percentage of condemned criminals deserve to suffer intense pain. On the other hand, to knowingly and deliberately inflict physical pain on a criminal for the intended purpose of making him suffer would be a violation of the Eighth Amendment. Therefore, as a true American who believes in our Constitution I am vehemently opposed to any measure that would violate such Amendment.
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lordextinct
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Pro death penalty - full steam ahead!
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Post by lordextinct on Sept 27, 2014 15:20:24 GMT -6
Please allow a newbie (but one of the right spirit, I hope...) to express some of the relief I find in Your outstanding posts! I cannot interface to these lethal injections, and perhaps I´m slightly too old fashioned. Therefore I shall hereby take the Liberty of asking You, valued member of this Community, what is Your opininon of the capital punishment OPTIONS? Could You, by any chance, welcome a guillotine as a secure and efficient tool for the executioner? It is my firm conviction that this form of execution is one of the highly recommendable alternatives ever. The other options, as I see, are Death by hanging or as a third one, Death by a a squadron with fire arms. Build the scaffolds up within the prison areas, I say! The Days of official executions are probably a chapter that will never be reinstated... However, whom may possess any total knowledge of what the future holds? Considering the scheduled execution of this Billy Ray Irick in Tennessee, who raped and murdered a seven year old girl in 1985, I would personally and nota bene for free be honoured to raise the broad axe above his neck in public. It is about time the delinquent pays his debt to society. Thank You!
In theory the Guillotine is most humane method of death. A super sharp blade with mass cuts all of the nerve centers immediately. The brain gets sensory over loaded and puts the patient in hyper shock and they are out as soon as the head is off. They maybe still alive but the brain can not process any information in that small amount of time. By the time the brain would be aware of the damage the oxygenated blood is now gone and the nervous system is now offline. Within a minute of no replenishing blood supply and dielectrics the neurons are in effect dead. Ironically even though it is a more humane death, people hate blood and think it is barbaric. Personally I want them to feel pain so I would the guillotine so it is dull so that way will cause some pain. I would be for bringing back all 3. I hat LI because it looks more like going under in a medical procedure than being punished to death. I like the chair personally. I like them putting on the helmet and being strapped in a chair that does not a piece of medical equipment. It looks like a piece of punishment equipment. You that inmate is trembling when looking at that shiny oak chair.
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Post by whitediamonds on Sept 28, 2014 12:18:01 GMT -6
I do not think it is ironic people hate seeing blood etc. it is what we see in crime photos which is barbaric. It should be more like an assisted suicide is carried out,.or euthanasia methods.
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Post by yasgursfarm on Oct 22, 2014 15:45:45 GMT -6
Judge: "you have been found guilty by a jury of your peers and sentenced to be executed. Do you have any last words?"
100% effective against recidivism. $0 incarceration cost to the taxpayers.
Think about it. If a Pit Bull tears someone up, it's dead within the week. How is a murderer any better than a dog?
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Post by Stormyweather on Oct 22, 2014 16:52:11 GMT -6
Judge: "you have been found guilty by a jury of your peers and sentenced to be executed. Do you have any last words?" 100% effective against recidivism. $0 incarceration cost to the taxpayers. Think about it. If a Pit Bull tears someone up, it's dead within the week. How is a murderer any better than a dog? Good point, and most assume the dog didn't know better.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 22, 2014 21:00:47 GMT -6
The dog just made a bad choice, & had a bad puppyhood.
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Post by nils on Nov 8, 2014 1:18:57 GMT -6
The Days of official executions are probably a chapter that will never be reinstated... However, whom may possess any total knowledge of what the future holds?; Especially with the world getting more violent. [/p] [/quote] Hello. I think you are mistaken. The world is getting less and less violent over time. Not more violent. Best. Nils.
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 8, 2014 7:51:22 GMT -6
The Days of official executions are probably a chapter that will never be reinstated... However, whom may possess any total knowledge of what the future holds?; Especially with the world getting more violent. [/p] [/quote] Hello. I think you are mistaken. The world is getting less and less violent over time. Not more violent. Best. Nils. [/quote] If your correct & I am mistaken, than why is that? What has made it less violent in regards to terrorist, criminals murdering?
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Post by nils on Jan 3, 2015 7:49:45 GMT -6
[/p] [/quote] Hello. I think you are mistaken. The world is getting less and less violent over time. Not more violent.
Best. Nils.
[/quote] If your correct & I am mistaken, than why is that?
What has made it less violent in regards to terrorist, criminals murdering?]Hello Whitediamond. I suggest a very good read for you regarding The long term decline of viloence and violent deaths in our societies: Steven Pinker - "The Better Angels of Our Nature". Here is a link: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Better_Angels_of_Our_Nature. My best wishes Nils
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Post by whitediamonds on Jan 3, 2015 12:29:35 GMT -6
[/p] [/quote] Hello. I think you are mistaken. The world is getting less and less violent over time. Not more violent.
Best. Nils.
[/quote] If your correct & I am mistaken, than why is that?
What has made it less violent in regards to terrorist, criminals murdering?]Hello Whitediamond. I suggest a very good read for you regarding The long term decline of viloence and violent deaths in our societies: Steven Pinker - "The Better Angels of Our Nature". Here is a link: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Better_Angels_of_Our_Nature. My best wishes Nils [/quote] I suggest you better re-read that book & apply it also to the horrific (long list ) of innocents that have & still are suffering. Brought onto so many in this world by these psychopaths. And please spare me the fake words of how you care for victims too. The post/threads here speak volumes on your concerns for them. As many other anti's post have too.
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Post by bernard on Jan 3, 2015 19:00:38 GMT -6
In theory the Guillotine is most humane method of death. Which theory would that be? What is the evidence for this?
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Post by bernard on Jan 3, 2015 19:01:53 GMT -6
If your correct & I am mistaken, than why is that? What has made it less violent in regards to terrorist, criminals murdering? Do you think that it is the death penalty that has had this effect? How do you explain the fall in crime in Europe, where the death penalty is not applied?
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Post by whitediamonds on Jan 3, 2015 20:02:53 GMT -6
If your correct & I am mistaken, than why is that? What has made it less violent in regards to terrorist, criminals murdering? Do you think that it is the death penalty that has had this effect? How do you explain the fall in crime in Europe, where the death penalty is not applied? How do you explain the drop in crime in the U.S where the DP is still applied. Neither has anything to do with the DP the rise or lower of crime.
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Post by bernard on Jan 3, 2015 20:33:20 GMT -6
Neither has anything to do with the DP the rise or lower of crime. If the DP has nothing to do with lowering crime, why do you favor it?
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Post by whitediamonds on Jan 3, 2015 22:02:26 GMT -6
Neither has anything to do with the DP the rise or lower of crime. If the DP has nothing to do with lowering crime, why do you favor it? Because it is the right thing to do in some circumstances.
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Post by bernard on Jan 4, 2015 0:20:39 GMT -6
If the DP has nothing to do with lowering crime, why do you favor it? Because it is the right thing to do in some circumstances. If the DP has nothing to do with lowering crime, why do you think it is the right thing to do in some circumstances?
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Post by whitediamonds on Jan 4, 2015 8:58:44 GMT -6
Because it is the right thing to do in some circumstances. If the DP has nothing to do with lowering crime, why do you think it is the right thing to do in some circumstances? Go back to the good ole days & you will find my post of why & many other's on why we find it justified. You have the right to spend your time here, going over the same crap. What I find amusing prison is full of anti's.
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Post by bernard on Jan 4, 2015 10:48:49 GMT -6
If the DP has nothing to do with lowering crime, why do you think it is the right thing to do in some circumstances? Go back to the good ole days & you will find my post of why & many other's on why we find it justified. You have the right to spend your time here, going over the same crap. I'm surprised you think your reasons are crap, but remind me of them. Probably be quicker for you to type one sentence than for me to go trawling through the archives.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jan 4, 2015 11:13:15 GMT -6
Go back to the good ole days & you will find my post of why & many other's on why we find it justified. You have the right to spend your time here, going over the same crap. I'm surprised you think your reasons are crap, but remind me of them. Probably be quicker for you to type one sentence than for me to go trawling through the archives. You & Nils believe you have the right to demand answers. I stated" going over & over the same crap (answers you want), they are in the archives already yrs of them , questions YOU posed to me. You & Nils are too lazy to go back to find them yourselfs. Dig up whatever "crap your' looking for". Nil's has time to dig up only one sided crap.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jan 4, 2015 12:03:11 GMT -6
Go back to the good ole days & you will find my post of why & many other's on why we find it justified. You have the right to spend your time here, going over the same crap. Probably be quicker for you to type one sentence than for me to go trawling through the archives. Oh your time is important but, mine is not? I am tired of posting the same answers to the same questions for 5 yrs here now. Do you even know how to get the answer to your question posed to me the fast way? Since I have answered that same question numerous time's on here? When you find it, my opinion on that same ole question you posed to me has not altered over time. Oh , too add: I have always been under the same screen name here so no confusion there. Guess, I will go back to, smoking cigs & watching Captain Kangaroo.
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Post by bernard on Jan 4, 2015 13:15:54 GMT -6
I'm surprised you think your reasons are crap, but remind me of them. Probably be quicker for you to type one sentence than for me to go trawling through the archives. You & Nils believe you have the right to demand answers. I stated" going over & over the same crap (answers you want), they are in the archives already yrs of them , questions YOU posed to me. I couldn't understand your old answers because they were written in pidgin English.
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Post by bernard on Jan 4, 2015 13:16:41 GMT -6
Probably be quicker for you to type one sentence than for me to go trawling through the archives. Oh your time is important but, mine is not? I am tired of posting the same answers to the same questions for 5 yrs here now. Do you even know how to get the answer to your question posed to me the fast way? Since I have answered that same question numerous time's on here? When you find it, my opinion on that same ole question you posed to me has not altered over time. Oh , too add: I have always been under the same screen name here so no confusion there. Guess, I will go back to, smoking cigs & watching Captain Kangaroo. I think you must have nothing to do. The time you spent writing all that, and you could have more easily just answered the question.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jan 4, 2015 13:24:30 GMT -6
Oh your time is important but, mine is not? I am tired of posting the same answers to the same questions for 5 yrs here now. Do you even know how to get the answer to your question posed to me the fast way? Since I have answered that same question numerous time's on here? When you find it, my opinion on that same ole question you posed to me has not altered over time. Oh , too add: I have always been under the same screen name here so no confusion there. Guess, I will go back to, smoking cigs & watching Captain Kangaroo. I think you must have nothing to do. The time you spent writing all that, and you could have more easily just answered the question. Think what ya want. My computer is at my desk, your constant problems I have no time for. The End. Talk to yourself.
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Post by bernard on Jan 4, 2015 13:29:41 GMT -6
I think you must have nothing to do. The time you spent writing all that, and you could have more easily just answered the question. Think what ya want. Ok then I will. People who support the DP do so because they think it lowers crime. They think it acts as a deterrent, and it guarantees that the murderer will never reoffend. You, however, don't support it for these reasons, since you have just admitted that the DP has nothing to do with lowering crime. As far as I can tell, you have no reason for supporting it. Here's something else I think: When your back's to the wall, you tell people to go fishing in the archives for the place where you already answered this question, where you already presented the evidence, etc. But when I go looking in the archives, all I find are MORE places where you tell us to go look in the archives. Does this go back to infinity?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 13:50:48 GMT -6
YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK. THIS HAS ALL BEEN DONE BEFORE.
You want some evidence of how badly some antis have treated people. I have eye witness proof because it was done to me and to many of the other MVSs here and many other member, who dared to speak up for victims and MVSs . NO I AM NOT GOING TO FIND IT TO PROVE TO YOU ANYTHING. I HAVE LIVED IT HERE AND ALL OVER THE INTERNET. Btw, why I won't do this is because I am too busy trying to keep a murderer behind bars because I don't want to have to tell a family that I didn't do everything possible to make sure he didn't do it again.
I don't support the DP for any of the reasons you say. I do it and I do it because I am not afraid to say the word revenge because the truth is that is what it is and I will not be embarrassed by you trying to shame me by all the things you put here. Paybacks are a bytch and so am I. I can call it justice or whatever is the politically correct crap that people tell me is proper. I don't give a shyt what you and others think of me. It isn't their fight. Unless people want to help, they are just a hindrance and in my way. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT IN THE WAY. I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT SOMEDAY ALL YOUR PIOUS ARROGANCE COMES BACK TO BITE YOU IN THE A$$.
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