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Post by rayozz on May 28, 2013 8:38:11 GMT -6
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Post by moonlight on May 28, 2013 12:13:56 GMT -6
Well, they can import the appropriate equipment from the U.S. to run the business
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on May 28, 2013 12:17:51 GMT -6
Savages.
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Post by dogrose on May 28, 2013 13:02:04 GMT -6
Now that is one of my biggest fears, to be smothered to death must be dreadful, a bit like drowning I imagine. I have nightmares about having a pillow over my face and not being able to move.
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Post by moretoasts on May 28, 2013 14:31:03 GMT -6
I see you are not a supporter of the end justify the means philosophy Seriously do you really think that savagery concerns the way of killing the inmate instead of the killing itself? The needles make people civilized? I don't think the inmate cares how he is dying more than the fact he is dying, why should you?
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Post by Californian on May 28, 2013 15:06:36 GMT -6
Now that is one of my biggest fears, to be smothered to death must be dreadful, a bit like drowning I imagine. I have nightmares about having a pillow over my face and not being able to move. It says "medical suffocation," which I take to mean injection with pavulon or a like drug. These pharmaceuticals cause paralysis and cessation of respiration.
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on May 28, 2013 15:57:41 GMT -6
I see you are not a supporter of the end justify the means philosophy Seriously do you really think that savagery concerns the way of killing the inmate instead of the killing itself? The needles make people civilized? I don't think the inmate cares how he is dying more than the fact he is dying, why should you? Nope you are wrong. Again. I far from think needles makes 'killing' civilized (whatever 'civilized' truly means.) With my 'savages' remark I was coming from somewhere else entirely.
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Post by D.E.E. on May 29, 2013 14:23:12 GMT -6
Don't like their laws don't go there or don't break their laws.
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Post by nate on Jun 1, 2013 7:35:04 GMT -6
I tought that country had hanging. I wonder why they changed it?
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Post by josephdphillips on Jun 6, 2013 11:39:12 GMT -6
Dead is dead. Seriously, who cares?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2013 9:01:31 GMT -6
Dead is dead. Seriously, who cares? I believe the reason why the USA has switched to Lethal Injection is for the sensitivities of society and not because of concern about cruelty to the inmate. An efficient hanging, shooting or electrocution is provides minimal discomfort to the victim (Not I am not saying this about the gas chamber). I think one of the reasons why the USA sought out methods such as electrocution was because they never developed good hanging practices that the English did. The other thing about the states is you guys like your pomp and ceremony in most things and executions are no exception. The English practice of shoving the guy out on the scaffold and dealing with the whole matter in 30 seconds doesn't do much for you Americans. You like to off people in style
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Post by sanquentin on Jun 9, 2013 23:27:33 GMT -6
I agree with cyclone's last paragraph. For me, I wish it were just a single bullet.
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Post by josephdphillips on Jun 10, 2013 10:22:16 GMT -6
Dead is dead. Seriously, who cares? I believe the reason why the USA has switched to Lethal Injection is for the sensitivities of society and not because of concern about cruelty to the inmate. An efficient hanging, shooting or electrocution is provides minimal discomfort to the victim (Not I am not saying this about the gas chamber). I think one of the reasons why the USA sought out methods such as electrocution was because they never developed good hanging practices that the English did. The other thing about the states is you guys like your pomp and ceremony in most things and executions are no exception. The English practice of shoving the guy out on the scaffold and dealing with the whole matter in 30 seconds doesn't do much for you Americans. You like to off people in style I don't know where you get this nonsense, Cyclone. Nothing could be further from the truth. No people are more squeamish about killing than Americans. It's the only reason why we have an Eighth Amendment to the Constitution. Peter the Great used to roast traitors over an open fire, then have them healed, then do it again, and THEN behead them. He even performed some of the executions himself. Now there was a guy who knew what he was doing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 22:24:05 GMT -6
I believe the reason why the USA has switched to Lethal Injection is for the sensitivities of society and not because of concern about cruelty to the inmate. An efficient hanging, shooting or electrocution is provides minimal discomfort to the victim (Not I am not saying this about the gas chamber). I think one of the reasons why the USA sought out methods such as electrocution was because they never developed good hanging practices that the English did. The other thing about the states is you guys like your pomp and ceremony in most things and executions are no exception. The English practice of shoving the guy out on the scaffold and dealing with the whole matter in 30 seconds doesn't do much for you Americans. You like to off people in style I don't know where you get this nonsense, Cyclone. Nothing could be further from the truth. No people are more squeamish about killing than Americans. It's the only reason why we have an Eighth Amendment to the Constitution. Peter the Great used to roast traitors over an open fire, then have them healed, then do it again, and THEN behead them. He even performed some of the executions himself. Now there was a guy who knew what he was doing. I am not saying your ancestors were squeamish. I am saying the need to switch to Lethal Injection related to the sensitivities of your society today. You medicalised the process of execution to make yourselves feel better. Even some inmates whinge about being denied the right to die like a man.
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Post by oslooskar on Jun 11, 2013 0:23:23 GMT -6
Cyclone, seriously, you’re not presenting a rational argument; you’re just prattling on in hope of baiting the big boys so they’ll pay attention to you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2013 1:22:38 GMT -6
Cyclone, seriously, you’re not presenting a rational argument; you’re just prattling on in hope of baiting the big boys so they’ll pay attention to you. What I am saying is you American's are more in love with the idea of having the death penalty on the books then actually carrying it out. You have medicalised the process so much that even DR inmates make fun of the process Read more: digitaljournal.com/article/348984#ixzz2VtDt2WWYwww.aintnowaytogo.com/pickpoison.htmYour execution method is about making it patalable to the public and not about making it painless for the inmate.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2013 1:25:47 GMT -6
Cyclone, seriously, you’re not presenting a rational argument; you’re just prattling on in hope of baiting the big boys so they’ll pay attention to you. So how many Americans were sacrificed on the alter of the 2nd Amendments this week? So what is the mantra of America these days? Rights before life Rights before life Rights before life Rights before life Rights before life Rights before life Rights before life Rights before life Rights before life Rights before life "My right to own a gun is more important then other people's right to live"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2013 1:51:33 GMT -6
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Post by whitediamonds on Jun 11, 2013 10:05:57 GMT -6
Cyclone are you back on the guns issue again (US), stop tolerating people shooting themselves/or each other? Heck most violence is influenced by religious beliefs, inclucing mass suicides
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Post by oslooskar on Jun 11, 2013 13:20:33 GMT -6
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Post by josephdphillips on Jun 11, 2013 13:24:26 GMT -6
I am not saying your ancestors were squeamish. I am saying the need to switch to Lethal Injection related to the sensitivities of your society today. You mean the cowardice of society. You medicalised the process of execution to make yourselves feel better. Even some inmates whinge about being denied the right to die like a man. That is certainly true. The proponents of capital punishment were the ones who backpedaled on it. We should repeal the Eighth Amendment and start executions en masse.
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Post by Californian on Jun 11, 2013 17:04:58 GMT -6
Even some inmates whinge about being denied the right to die like a man. Please name two.
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Post by Californian on Jun 11, 2013 17:09:47 GMT -6
So how many Americans were sacrificed on the alter of the 2nd Amendments this week? "Altar." Yes, I agree.
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Post by Californian on Jun 11, 2013 19:06:07 GMT -6
Is it necessary to remind you YET AGAIN that you're not an American? You live thousands of miles away, you can't vote here because you're not one of us, and your opinions frankly, mean bupkus to us. Hope this helps, smug leftist witch.
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Post by starbux on Jun 12, 2013 2:39:48 GMT -6
Approved ways people can be executed include lethal injection, hanging, firing squad, electrocution and medical death by "deprivation of oxygen". A way this can be done is through an baro chamber, similar to the ones used for flight physiology. You can suck out the oxygen and make them be at the equivalent of 50,000 feet. At that altitude they will pass out in two seconds. While it the pressure is going down around 20,000 feet they will get a sense of euphoria. Perfect way to die
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Post by spinaltap on Jun 13, 2013 12:07:02 GMT -6
medical death by "deprivation of oxygen". A way this can be done is through an baro chamber, similar to the ones used for flight physiology. You can suck out the oxygen and make them be at the equivalent of 50,000 feet. At that altitude they will pass out in two seconds. While it the pressure is going down around 20,000 feet they will get a sense of euphoria. Perfect way to die This is the method that should be used
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Post by josephdphillips on Jun 13, 2013 13:31:36 GMT -6
Way too complicated. Make him dig his own grave, make him stand therein, and shoot him in the head. Double-tap.
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Post by oslooskar on Jun 13, 2013 13:46:31 GMT -6
Make him dig his own grave, make him stand therein That’s not going to happen because it’s way too complicated and would violate the Eighth Amendment.
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Post by Matt on Jun 13, 2013 15:32:49 GMT -6
Under LI, American DP supporters believed they were agreeing to a system of execution that would nullify any C&U argument and dramatically reduce the number of capital case appeals. Boy did they ever get that one wrong.
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Post by josephdphillips on Jun 13, 2013 15:54:42 GMT -6
That’s not going to happen because it’s way too complicated and would violate the Eighth Amendment. Then the Eighth Amendment should be repealed, like the Eighteenth.
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