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Post by oslooskar on Mar 7, 2010 21:02:23 GMT -6
I wish I could have saved these poor bastards because I seriously doubt that they deserved this.
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Post by Rev. Agave on Mar 8, 2010 0:34:31 GMT -6
Sweet video. It is cool how you can see that the one dude was still alive after the drop and left dangling yo slowly choke to death. If we did it like that in the USA, we just might be able to reduce the number crimes. As for the crimes they were executed for, I am not sure. But I assume they knew better beforehand. When you take a known risk and lose, you really can't blame anyone but yourself. Hopefully these hangings will serve as a warning to others not to break the widely promulgated laws of the nation. Kudos to the hangmen.
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Post by Tahoe on Mar 8, 2010 1:06:44 GMT -6
Sweet video. It is cool how you can see that the one dude was still alive after the drop and left dangling yo slowly choke to death. If we did it like that in the USA, we just might be able to reduce the number crimes. As for the crimes they were executed for, I am not sure. But I assume they knew better beforehand. When you take a known risk and lose, you really can't blame anyone but yourself. Hopefully these hangings will serve as a warning to others not to break the widely promulgated laws of the nation. Kudos to the hangmen. true that
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Mar 8, 2010 2:34:10 GMT -6
Pierrepoint is spinning in his grave
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2010 4:14:40 GMT -6
If they are going to hang someone,they should learn how to do it right,I am PDP, But I aint for torturing people,that was F@#%# UP.
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Post by Felix2 on Mar 8, 2010 4:26:16 GMT -6
Sweet video. It is cool how you can see that the one dude was still alive after the drop and left dangling yo slowly choke to death. If we did it like that in the USA, we just might be able to reduce the number crimes. As for the crimes they were executed for, I am not sure. But I assume they knew better beforehand. When you take a known risk and lose, you really can't blame anyone but yourself. Hopefully these hangings will serve as a warning to others not to break the widely promulgated laws of the nation. Kudos to the hangmen. Come on Erick, for all you know these people might well have been innocent of any real crime, how can you support and applaud their torture without knowing for sure?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2010 5:10:03 GMT -6
The guy in the red shirt did not have his hand behind his back and you could see his arms moving around.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2010 5:27:43 GMT -6
savages
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Post by spinaltap on Mar 8, 2010 19:01:44 GMT -6
This was not a good job
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Post by Rev. Agave on Mar 8, 2010 19:42:26 GMT -6
How so? The POS died eventually, and that is all that counts. There is nothing wrong with a little suffering during an execution. It's a healthy deterrent.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2010 20:18:08 GMT -6
How so? The POS died eventually, and that is all that counts. There is nothing wrong with a little suffering during an execution. It's a healthy deterrent. I would have to agree. They are sentenced to die, not to be tortured to death. Besides it offends the great master of the noose Albert Pierrpont
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Post by Tahoe on Mar 9, 2010 0:48:57 GMT -6
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Post by Felix2 on Mar 9, 2010 3:12:04 GMT -6
Well then, I think his opinion is that it was not a good job?
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Post by johnnyrep on Mar 9, 2010 3:43:12 GMT -6
This site is being developed as a resource for those searching the internet for pro-death penalty information and resources.
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Post by lawrence on Mar 9, 2010 4:13:12 GMT -6
What worries me about any death sentence passed in Iran is whether they are actually convicted on any serious crime other then shouting about the present regime? Makes you think. They are hanging on by their nails and they will do anything including hanging anyone who dares speak out against them. Even so, hanging in public, i thought such civilized nations and religious government would have the decency to have this spectacle held behind closed doors. I doubt they did anything to warrant that death sentence, if they did we wouldn't know what it was, it could be for anything that didn't agree with their laws. A woman can be hanged in Iran because their husband suspected they had an affair. Its criminal.
Savages.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2010 4:28:17 GMT -6
I Agree 100%,Iran is one messed up country,Its all for the man,the poor woman are treated like mere possesions.
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Mar 9, 2010 4:49:11 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2010 5:16:10 GMT -6
What worries me about any death sentence passed in Iran is whether they are actually convicted on any serious crime other then shouting about the present regime? Makes you think. They are hanging on by their nails and they will do anything including hanging anyone who dares speak out against them. Even so, hanging in public, i thought such civilized nations and religious government would have the decency to have this spectacle held behind closed doors. I doubt they did anything to warrant that death sentence, if they did we wouldn't know what it was, it could be for anything that didn't agree with their laws. A woman can be hanged in Iran because their husband suspected they had an affair. Its criminal. Savages. Exactly
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Post by spinaltap on Mar 9, 2010 5:28:09 GMT -6
How so? The POS died eventually, and that is all that counts. There is nothing wrong with a little suffering during an execution. It's a healthy deterrent. I am totally for the DP, I think it should actually be used more, but this hanging was poorly done. Yes they ended up dead, and that was the goal. I just disagree with the way it was done.
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Post by honeyroastedpeanut on Mar 9, 2010 5:51:55 GMT -6
In these times of uproar in Iran those guys could easily be students who protested against the regime. Or they were a gay couple. Oh, wait, there are no gays in Iran - I forgot. I found the video of one student who was hanged for his protest quite impressing: he smiled all the time until the very end and told the people that this wouldn't change anything. Parts of it were shown on the news. What a brave guy.
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Post by Matt on Mar 9, 2010 9:13:36 GMT -6
We can have no way of knowing why these men were hanged. For all we know, they could have been part of a gang of mass murderers. Or maybe they were just gay.
Iran (if it was Iran; the video says Saudi) has a long history of calling things "crimes" which we in the West would find abhorrent. But it's their country, and their laws. If the people don't like it, it's up to them to change things.
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Post by Felix2 on Mar 9, 2010 9:34:35 GMT -6
How so? The POS died eventually, and that is all that counts. There is nothing wrong with a little suffering during an execution. It's a healthy deterrent. I am totally for the DP, I think it should actually be used more, but this hanging was poorly done. Yes they ended up dead, and that was the goal. I just disagree with the way it was done. But the point others here make is that nobody knows why they were hanged. It might be because of their sexual preferences for all we know. It might be because they were critical of the current authorities. I frankly dont know how anybody can support such executions without knowing the facts, and dont mind Erick, he is being deliberately outrageous. He mightn as well apply the rationale of cleansing to those 3000 killed in the twin towers and say it was a great event, makes just about as much sense when you do not know what exactly these individuals were guilty of.
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Post by honeyroastedpeanut on Mar 9, 2010 9:51:34 GMT -6
Iran (if it was Iran; the video says Saudi) has a long history of calling things "crimes" which we in the West would find abhorrent. But it's their country, and their laws. If the people don't like it, it's up to them to change things. Looked quite typical of what I've seen about the DP in Iran (I only watched the first seconds though) but I don't speak Farsi. I honestly hope those guys at least did something really bad so that one might argue they deserved that fate. This country is in a miserable condition given its rich history. I know several Iranians who escaped to Germany after the Shah-regime had been overthrown. All of them are so proud of their Persian heritage and hate this stoneage-regime. Also Persian girls are very good looking.
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Mar 9, 2010 10:11:03 GMT -6
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Post by D.E.E. on Mar 9, 2010 13:01:54 GMT -6
I do not know what crimes they committed so I will not speak about if the execution was justified or not. I will say the execution itself was an example of how cruel a third world country can be. It was sloppy and poorly done.
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Post by oslooskar on Mar 9, 2010 13:08:13 GMT -6
I found the video of one student who was hanged for his protest quite impressing: he smiled all the time until the very end and told the people that this wouldn't change anything. Parts of it were shown on the news. What a brave guy. I believe he is the first individual seen in this video.
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Post by oslooskar on Mar 9, 2010 13:42:09 GMT -6
But it's their country, and their laws. If the people don't like it, it's up to them to change things. Too bad the C.I.A. didn’t share your philosophy back in 1953 when they overthrew a democratically elected government in Iran and replaced it with a brutal dictatorship that terrorized the Iranian people for years only to be overthrown and replaced by another even more brutal regime.
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Post by Tracy on Mar 10, 2010 9:26:28 GMT -6
I found the video of one student who was hanged for his protest quite impressing: he smiled all the time until the very end and told the people that this wouldn't change anything. Parts of it were shown on the news. What a brave guy. I believe he is the first individual seen in this video. Here is more ...those two men killed a corrupt judge. I read more about this a while ago but i dont remember where
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Post by oslooskar on Mar 10, 2010 11:43:09 GMT -6
Thanks for the information, Tracy!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2010 14:20:37 GMT -6
Where did you get the idea that this was Iran? They look like Indians and they're speaking Urdu. This is Pakistan. (Contrary to the video title it's not Saudi Arabia either, where they only use beheading). The idea that Iran hanged a lot of protesters or dissidents was a hoax. The photographs of "demonstrators fighting police were actually shot in Honduras: www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/01/444177.htmldandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/iranian-elections-the-%E2%80%98stolen-elections%E2%80%99-hoax-by-prof-james-petra/The article says "protests", but these people are clearly CELEBRATING: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1250127/Iran-Revolution-day-protests-Islamic-Republic-nuclear-state.htmlLook at the size of the crowds. They are well into the hundreds of thousands. The supposed "protest rally" was tiny, staged, and essentially ignored. The "protesters" were outnumbered on the order of thousands to one. And yet "no apparent injuries". The police left them alone, because they were not a threat. The news about gigantic protest rallies were a hoax staged for propaganda purposes. The government of Iran remains firmly in power. I don't know if they should necessarily hang drug dealers but I don't make their laws. The idea that they hang men for being gay is a hoax. They don't. What does happen, that is controversial, is that men will be hanged for "gay rape", after what is possibly their ex-gay-lover accuses them of raping them. That situation occurs in many countries, although to be honest they actually do have real gay-rape. As for the method, they could do it quicker and easier by giving them a longer drop. It's usually not as bad as it looks though because usually the pressure on their spinal chords stimulates the vagal response which slows down their hearts and causes them to fade out fairly quickly. Most of them looked like they went out pretty fast, except the poor devil in the purplish-maroon shirt who not only freed his hands but is clearly struggling. One of the police carrying out the hanging should have put him out of his misery with one good yank, which some hangmen used to do in the western countries in the old days of short-drop hangings like this one.
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