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Post by Curious on Jan 8, 2006 16:04:20 GMT -6
I was curious about a few things.
1) Is there a set of crimes that are "listed" or "known" that you can get the DP for. Some people on the anti side of a debate that I'm about to have are already telling me that there are several crimes in a few states that can be punishable by the DP even though they are not significant.
With that said, what crimes can you get the DP for? Does it vary from state to state? Is it a case by case basis or specifically murder?
And even further, to what extent do you people feel that the DP is the correct punishment. Just in murder cases? What is some lady was tortured for a few years but escaped?
Thanks, interested to hear
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Post by blakely on Jan 8, 2006 18:12:38 GMT -6
First degree murder plus a special circumstance = death penalty. And yes it varies from state to state. I don't know how your friends could call the crimes -- and by crimes we are talking murder- that merit the death penalty as not significant. That's callous. Let them give you the penal code and state or the case law and then read it. Most crimes that merit the death penalty are sickening.
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Post by Donnie on Jan 8, 2006 19:45:22 GMT -6
Some people on the anti side of a debate that I'm about to have are already telling me that there are several crimes in a few states that can be punishable by the DP even though they are not significant. In Louisiana, a rapist can be sentenced to death for raping a child under the age of 6. I suppose the anti-DP folk don't consider that significant because they are older than 6 now. In California there are several significant crimes other than murder that may be considered for the DP. For example, causing a train wreck, treason and, I believe, hazarding a vessel. If somebody thinks that those crimes are insignificant, then they haven't given it much thought. |
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Post by Curious on Jan 12, 2006 23:16:24 GMT -6
Some people on the anti side of a debate that I'm about to have are already telling me that there are several crimes in a few states that can be punishable by the DP even though they are not significant. In Louisiana, a rapist can be sentenced to death for raping a child under the age of 6. I suppose the anti-DP folk don't consider that significant because they are older than 6 now. In California there are several significant crimes other than murder that may be considered for the DP. For example, causing a train wreck, treason and, I believe, hazarding a vessel. If somebody thinks that those crimes are insignificant, then they haven't given it much thought. How would you respond to someone that argues that a train wreck"er" does not deserve the death penalty? With all reason in mind, it seems that it could be considered murder especially in the sense that it is premedidated. |
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Post by Donnie on Jan 17, 2006 22:36:46 GMT -6
In Louisiana, a rapist can be sentenced to death for raping a child under the age of 6. I suppose the anti-DP folk don't consider that significant because they are older than 6 now. In California there are several significant crimes other than murder that may be considered for the DP. For example, causing a train wreck, treason and, I believe, hazarding a vessel. If somebody thinks that those crimes are insignificant, then they haven't given it much thought. How would you respond to someone that argues that a train wreck"er" does not deserve the death penalty? With all reason in mind, it seems that it could be considered murder especially in the sense that it is premedidated. California may be the only state that has the DP for train wrecking. But it is possible to wreck a train without killing anybody if there is a great deal of good luck involved. However, the most recent train-wrecker in California killed eleven people. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2006 10:03:03 GMT -6
I don't know how your friends could call the crimes -- and by crimes we are talking murder- that merit the death penalty as not significant. I wonder if their son,daughter,mother,father,husband,wife etc. etc. were brutally murdered, would they think differently!? |
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Post by Donnie on Feb 28, 2006 0:10:47 GMT -6
I don't know how your friends could call the crimes -- and by crimes we are talking murder- that merit the death penalty as not significant. I wonder if their son,daughter,mother,father,husband,wife etc. etc. were brutally murdered, would they think differently!? They might start thinking. |
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