Fallacies of anti-DP arguments

[SylviasDaddy]

"The death penalty is legalized murder."
Those who espouse this argument and do not simultaneously decry all forms of punishment are being inconsistent.
If the death penalty is legalized murder, then:
Fines, forfeitures, and restitution are legalized theft
Imprisonment is legalized kidnapping
Corporal punishment is legalized battery
Community service is legalized slavery
Publishing names of offenders, or requiring them to wear signs such as I AM A THIEF is legalized defamation of character.

"If an innocent man is executed, his life cannot be restored."
To be consistent, those who take this tack must be opposed to all punishments except fines, forfeitures, and restitution.
If someone is imprisoned and later found innocent, his lost time cannot be restored.
If someone is lashed and later found innocent, he cannot be de-beaten.
If someone is made to do community service and later found innocent, he cannot be de-worked.
If someone is publicly denounced as a criminal and later found innocent, he cannot be de-embarrassed.

[joe shmuck]

If an innocent man is put to prison for a 20 year sentence because of a mishap with wrong evidence or some slip up, he can at least be recompensated by being let out of prison immediately and maybe even get a little money out of the situation.

If an innocent man has his life taken away by means of the death penalty, the only way he can be recompensated is with a nice flower on his tombstone.

[GW and his all girl orchestra]

Guest-joe said:

If an innocent man has his life taken away by means of the death penalty, the only way he can be recompensated is with a nice flower on his tombstone.

If an innocent man has his life taken away because a convicted non-executed murderer - murders again, the only way he can be recompensated is with a nice flower on his tombstone.

Now let's guess how many times YOUR example happened, and how many times my example has happened.

You have earned your name with your post. Please try engaging your brain before you post again.

It is consistent with the liberal thought process that they are incapable of making tough decisions, thereby doing nothing when decisions are required.

[Rick Z]

Guest-GW said:

It is consistent with the liberal thought process that they are incapable of making tough decisions, thereby doing nothing when decisions are required.

I really must object to this insensitive (dare I say "racist"?) statement! You slur people who do nothing, i.e. lazy people, by lumping them in with liberals. That's totally unjustified. After all, liberals do something when a tough decision is required: They bury their heads in the ground.

[christopher]

sylviasdaddy-

I think everyone is prone to using catchy sayings to get their point across, though I think you go a touch far when you say that one who does not support the death penalty does not support any form of punishment. Most DP supporters acknowledge that murder is one of the most heinous crimes against humanity. Everyone knows that as soon as you commit a crime, you lose some of your rights. However, ADP proponents don't argue that one should not be punished (as your analogy implies), but rather, that the DP is too excessive. Your analogy, while pretty, goes out the window at that point.

by the way... where, as a punishment do they make you wear a sign that says "I'm a thief?"

"If an innocent man is executed, his life cannot be restored." What's the problem with this? If any man is executed, his life cannot be restored.

If an innocent man has his life taken away because a convicted non-executed murderer - murders again, the only way he can be recompensated is with a nice flower on his tombstone.

Now let's guess how many times YOUR example happened, and how many times my example has happened.

First, show me some figures. Second, if there's a non-executed murderer back on the street, there are a couple things to think of. 1. the guy's escaped because he's probably serving a life sentence with no parole. 2. He really committed the crime and the jury didn't convict him at which point in time it isn't a DP issue at all. So, in light of those considerations, I bet your option is lesslikely than you thought.

[eu.ro]

Guest-Rick said:

I really must object to this insensitive (dare I say "racist"?) statement! You slur people who do nothing, i.e. lazy people, by lumping them in with liberals. That's totally unjustified. After all, liberals do something when a tough decision is required: They bury their heads in the ground.

Wrong! Although it would be much better than your "shoot first, ask then" mentality.

[snowy111]

There are actually some liberals who support the dp. There are some on the right who are against it. Usually Christians. So being for or against the dp is a choice not whether or not you're on the right or left.

[eu.ro]

Snowy, I can't believe it, but I have to agree!