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Post by Californian on Dec 30, 2006 11:09:16 GMT -6
This is your mistake America, big mistake. Saddam was a dictator and tyran but only his own nation, who suffered a lot under his regime had the right to punish him. And don´t tell me that Iraqi courts are independent( they aren´t because of thousands of US soldiers in their country, of course). Probably you created a new martyr for all the sick jihadists, and the road to peace in Iraq will be longer than ever before. Ya know what, Paulie boy? The next time the Krauts get frisky, (and they will) we're just gonna sit back and let you euroweenies handle it yourselves.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2006 11:13:00 GMT -6
This is your mistake America, big mistake. Saddam was a dictator and tyran but only his own nation, who suffered a lot under his regime had the right to punish him. And don´t tell me that Iraqi courts are independent( they aren´t because of thousands of US soldiers in their country, of course). Probably you created a new martyr for all the sick jihadists, and the road to peace in Iraq will be longer than ever before. Ya know what, Paulie boy? The next time the Krauts get frisky, (and they will) we're just gonna sit back and let you euroweenies handle it yourselves. I'm sure there were similar prophecies of doom when the man in his signature met his fate. OH MY GOD! YOU CAN'T EXECUTE THE FOUNDER OF THE MOST NOTORIOUS GANG IN THE USA. THERE WILL BE REPRISALS AGAINST LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM SEA TO SHINING SEA! THE STREETS WILL RUN RED WITH BLOOD!!!
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Post by grandma on Dec 30, 2006 11:36:22 GMT -6
The US could take a lesson or two about capital punishment from Iraq. A token appeal and bam to the gallows. I wonder how long it will be before the video is on the net. CNN has been showing parts of it this morning
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Post by grandma on Dec 30, 2006 11:39:58 GMT -6
This is your mistake America, big mistake. Saddam was a dictator and tyran but only his own nation, who suffered a lot under his regime had the right to punish him. They did!
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Post by angelicalewis on Dec 30, 2006 11:43:58 GMT -6
The US could take a lesson or two about capital punishment from Iraq. A token appeal and bam to the gallows. I wonder how long it will be before the video is on the net. CNN has been showing parts of it this morning You're kidding!! I thought it would be a while!
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Post by grandma on Dec 30, 2006 11:47:14 GMT -6
Not the actual hanging. They show him walking to the noose and the hooded men putting it around his neck. Then he is standing there with the noose around his neck. then they show his body on a gurney, wrapped in a sheet..only his face exposed. It was a grainy picture but it appears that there is a red mark around his neck. He refused to be hooded during the execution.
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Post by angelicalewis on Dec 30, 2006 11:49:36 GMT -6
I just watched the video. Do you think they're going to show the actual hanging on CNN?
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Post by Lauren on Dec 30, 2006 12:01:27 GMT -6
You're very wrong. We handed Saddam over to the Iraqi people for THEM to execute him in the manner THEY use. It was their choice of how to execute him. Hanging has been their method for many years. How are Americans being two-faced when WE didn't carry out the execution? This cruel and unusual BS gets old. Did Saddam slaughter in a humane manner? I think they all suffered far worse than Saddam did. America aided and abetted the execution - a bit like throwing someone into a lions enclosure. If he was in British custody we would have refused to hand him over without a promise that the DP would not be sought. I'm not saying thats right it's just a fact. Andy, Andy, Andy.... America did not aid and abett his execution-he dug his own grave when he mass murdered a village. A person can only be punished for murder where the crime took place in. Example: If I am a Canadian citizen and I kill someone in the US, I get tried for murder in the US, and my punishment will be served in the US. Sadaam killed people in Iraq. Therefore, his punishment will be in Iraq.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2006 12:03:02 GMT -6
I just watched the video. Do you think they're going to show the actual hanging on CNN? They would never show such disrespect to 'President Hussein.' Terrorist video of American Soldiers being assassinated by Snipers on the other hand....
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Post by andy28 on Dec 30, 2006 12:45:51 GMT -6
Ain't you the nation that worries incase the condemned may feel the *jerk* from a LI needle? Trust me, America would never forcibly hang a person. Really? www.historylink.org/essays/output.cfm?file_id=5555State of Washington conducts its last execution by hanging on May 27, 1994. HistoryLink.org Essay 5555 Printer-Friendly Format On May 27, 1994, the State of Washington conducts its last execution by hanging. Charles Rodman Campbell, age 39, was put to death for the 1982 murders of two women and a child. Campbell had a choice between hanging and lethal injection, but he refused to make a choice, so under state law, hanging is used. After this, in accordance with a law on method of execution passed in 1996, the state will use lethal injection to execute criminals condemned to death, unless the defendant chooses hanging. Campbell was convicted of killing Renae Wicklund, her eight-year old daughter Shannah, and a neighbor, Barbara Hendrickson. In a previous rape case, Wicklund had testified that Campbell had attacked and sodomized her and held a knife to her baby's throat in a prosecution that sent him to prison. Upon his release, Campbell committed the murders. He appealed his conviction and sentence for 12 years. Campbell refused to cooperate with the execution. He had to be moved from his cell using pepper spray and he was hanged strapped to a board. It took prison officials 90 seconds to place a hood on his head and to fix the noose before the trap was opened. Death was instantaneous. In 1996, the Legislature amended state law and lethal injection became the authorized method of execution, unless the defendant chooses hanging. Laura Hows that forceble hanging then? He could have opted out but chose not to.
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Post by andy28 on Dec 30, 2006 13:10:58 GMT -6
All i can say is America has'nt learned a thing since they got totally massacred on September 11th 2001. You don't antagonise extremists is the sensible advice. If i was president Bush right now i'd be looking underneath every vehicle i travelled in.
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Post by Stormyweather on Dec 30, 2006 13:17:03 GMT -6
All i can say is America has'nt learned a thing since they got totally massacred on September 11th 2001. You don't antagonise extremists is the sensible advice. If i was president Bush right now i'd be looking underneath every vehicle i travelled in. You haven't learned anything. You one of those people who think appeasing evil will make it go away.
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Post by andy28 on Dec 30, 2006 13:28:31 GMT -6
Not the actual hanging. They show him walking to the noose and the hooded men putting it around his neck. Then he is standing there with the noose around his neck. then they show his body on a gurney, wrapped in a sheet..only his face exposed. It was a grainy picture but it appears that there is a red mark around his neck. He refused to be hooded during the execution. Saddams a proud man thats why he refused to wear the hood. He knew if he refused to wear the hood they would'nt be able to show the actual hanging. Also a clever man, who's to say there was an actual hanging?
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Post by RED on Dec 30, 2006 13:38:02 GMT -6
"You don't antagonise extremists is the sensible advice." True. You don't antagonize. You kill them whenever and wherever possible. Love, RED All i can say is America has'nt learned a thing since they got totally massacred on September 11th 2001. You don't antagonise extremists is the sensible advice. If i was president Bush right now i'd be looking underneath every vehicle i travelled in.
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Post by anna_marek on Dec 30, 2006 13:39:51 GMT -6
A no win situation!
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Post by andy28 on Dec 30, 2006 15:54:21 GMT -6
Would'nt it be better for us not to kill them and them not to kill us? Just a thought.
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Post by D.E.E. on Dec 30, 2006 16:11:58 GMT -6
Would'nt it be better for us not to kill them and them not to kill us? Just a thought. Sure it would be, too bad it does not work that way. They want to kill us or convert us and I am not becoming Muslim. You really need to listen to the extremist they do not want or care about apeasment. You can not work with people that want you dead.
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Post by grandma on Dec 30, 2006 16:18:00 GMT -6
I just watched the video. Do you think they're going to show the actual hanging on CNN? No. Our TV doesn't show such graphic events. You might be able to get it on the internet. If I learn where, I'll pm you with the link
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Post by grandma on Dec 30, 2006 16:18:59 GMT -6
All i can say is America has'nt learned a thing since they got totally massacred on September 11th 2001. You don't antagonise extremists is the sensible advice. If i was president Bush right now i'd be looking underneath every vehicle i travelled in. why? Is the mafia after him?
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Post by grandma on Dec 30, 2006 16:20:51 GMT -6
Would'nt it be better for us not to kill them and them not to kill us? Just a thought. It would be but they don't agree. Therefore, we need to kill them before they kill us
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Post by RED on Dec 30, 2006 16:36:03 GMT -6
That would be ideal! But since they have a particular proclivity for killing those who simply don’t think like them, your scenario is not realistic. Love, RED Would'nt it be better for us not to kill them and them not to kill us? Just a thought.
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Post by Felix2 on Dec 30, 2006 16:39:26 GMT -6
But hey, you dont know Joseph, he knows everything about everything and everyone. I'm glad you're finally seeing the light Felix. BTW I hope you had a Merry Christmas. I had a great christmas and hope you did too, BTW, noticing pure unadulterated sarcasm was never your strong point was it, I mean my comments about your clown friend Philips.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2006 19:02:30 GMT -6
Justice is served! That is the way to execute someone, don't let them appeal it for 20 or 30 years. He has killed hundreds and thousands of people, and for the family members of those people that have been killed it cannot take the pain away of what he has done, but it can bring a bit of satisfaction that the monster is dead. For those of you who think that he should not have been executed I must say yall are idiots. Put yourself in their position and then tell me how you would feel.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2006 19:30:17 GMT -6
I just watched the video. Do you think they're going to show the actual hanging on CNN? No. Our TV doesn't show such graphic events. You might be able to get it on the internet. If I learn where, I'll pm you with the link Why a PM? We're all friends here. VIDEO
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Post by rugratsgalore on Dec 30, 2006 19:45:57 GMT -6
No. Our TV doesn't show such graphic events. You might be able to get it on the internet. If I learn where, I'll pm you with the link Why a PM? We're all friends here. VIDEOThanks for posting the link + for you
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Post by 4GodnCountry on Dec 30, 2006 20:06:35 GMT -6
Really? www.historylink.org/essays/output.cfm?file_id=5555State of Washington conducts its last execution by hanging on May 27, 1994. HistoryLink.org Essay 5555 Printer-Friendly Format On May 27, 1994, the State of Washington conducts its last execution by hanging. Charles Rodman Campbell, age 39, was put to death for the 1982 murders of two women and a child. Campbell had a choice between hanging and lethal injection, but he refused to make a choice, so under state law, hanging is used. After this, in accordance with a law on method of execution passed in 1996, the state will use lethal injection to execute criminals condemned to death, unless the defendant chooses hanging. Campbell was convicted of killing Renae Wicklund, her eight-year old daughter Shannah, and a neighbor, Barbara Hendrickson. In a previous rape case, Wicklund had testified that Campbell had attacked and sodomized her and held a knife to her baby's throat in a prosecution that sent him to prison. Upon his release, Campbell committed the murders. He appealed his conviction and sentence for 12 years. Campbell refused to cooperate with the execution. He had to be moved from his cell using pepper spray and he was hanged strapped to a board. It took prison officials 90 seconds to place a hood on his head and to fix the noose before the trap was opened. Death was instantaneous. In 1996, the Legislature amended state law and lethal injection became the authorized method of execution, unless the defendant chooses hanging. Laura Hows that forceble hanging then? He could have opted out but chose not to. "Campbell refused to cooperate with the execution. He had to be moved from his cell using pepper spray and he was hanged strapped to a board. It took prison officials 90 seconds to place a hood on his head and to fix the noose before the trap was opened. " I don't know how else they could have forced him besides the board and trying to fix the noose. We vary on our definitions. No worries. Laura
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Post by Stormyweather on Dec 30, 2006 20:11:30 GMT -6
Why a PM? We're all friends here. VIDEONice sentiment but I don't think everyone is "friends" here.
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Post by angelicalewis on Dec 30, 2006 20:16:15 GMT -6
I just watched it.... thanks, grandma xox + to you for PMing it to me!
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Post by ginger on Dec 30, 2006 21:02:50 GMT -6
Would'nt it be better for us not to kill them and them not to kill us? Just a thought. It would be but they don't agree. Therefore, we need to kill them before they kill us Oh my f'ing ___, you DO realize that Iraq was not involved with 9/11? Please tell me you understand that. Iraq was not involved in killing Americans until we started bombing the hades outta Baghdad. Sure, SH was a tyrant and a murderer. There are several of those floating around this planet who are masquerading as leaders/presidents/dictators, but, I don't see us rushing in to 'liberate' the masses in those countries. "We need to kill them before they kill us"Keep this type of thinking up and we'll all be dead. I'm sorry Ilene, but, I couldn't just be quiet on that one. This kind of thinking scares the bejesus outta me.
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Post by grandma on Dec 30, 2006 21:41:19 GMT -6
I'm not talking specifically about Iraq. I'm talking about all the terrorists out there that want Americans dead. If we don't kill them, they will kill us. They will use their body as a bomb or a missile. They will use their children. And they think they are doing it in the name of their Deity.
BTW..we have gone into a lot of places for years to try and stop genocide. We went into the Philippines, Africa, S. America. We have gone into numerous countries to try and stop lots of innocent people from being killed. Clinton bombed a country (the name escapes me at the moment) and accidentally took out the Chinese embassy. This is not unique to this president or this era.
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