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Post by Stormyweather on May 6, 2006 14:47:17 GMT -6
Pam Perillo was Karla Faye Tucker's former roommate. This mean she was once on death row. She is no longer on death row but not because she is innocent but because of a technicality. See not even the dp is a sure thing. What did she do she helped strangle two men to death. Her sentenced was reduced in 2000. Information on her homepage. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals late Thursday ruled 1 of 8 women on Texas death row must be retried or set free. The appeals court's decision upholds an earlier lower-court ruling ordering the state to give Pamela Lynn Perillo a new trial within 120 days of prosecutors exhausting their appeals. If not, Perillo must be released. The state also has the option of appealing the 5th Circuit ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court, a spokeswoman with the Texas Attorney General's office said Thursday. "We'll be making that determination with the Harris County District Attorney's office in the near future," spokeswoman Andrea Horton said. Perillo's attorney, Maryanne Lyons, could not be reached for comment late Thursday. Perillo was a bartender when she and 2 friends were picked up by Bob Skeens, 26, and Robert Banks, 30, while hitchhiking near Houston's Astrodome on Feb. 24, 1980. The 3 hitchhikers later robbed Skeens and Banks, and Perillo and James Michael Briddle eventually were sentenced to death for choking the 2 men to death with a rope. Briddle was executed in December 1995, and the 3rd person involved, Linda Fletcher, was sentenced to 5 years' probation. Last June, U.S. District Judge Ewing Werlein overturned Perillo's conviction after finding one of her attorneys had a personal and professional relationship with the chief witness against her. The judge also found that defense attorney Jim Skelton failed to discredit Fletcher's testimony at crucial points during Perillo's 1984 re-trial. Skelton represented Fletcher when she, her then-husband Briddle and Perillo were charged with the crime. Perillo later confessed, and all 3 were charged with capital murder. But the charge against Fletcher was reduced to aggravated robbery after Skelton convinced prosecutors she was not involved in the killings. Months after Fletcher was sentenced to 5 years' probation, Skelton gave her away at her wedding. Perillo is 1 of 8 women on Texas' death row. Last week, Texas executed Betty Lou Beets, who was only the 2nd woman put to death in the state since the Civil War. Convicted pickax killer Karla Faye Tucker became the 1st when she was executed on Feb. 3, 1998. On Wednesday, a federal judge in Houston ordered the release of death row inmate Calvin Jerold Burdine because the state filed for a new trial 15 days after the deadline. The state has a motion pending before the 5th Circuit to block his release. www.ccadp.org/pamnews.htm |
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Post by xanax on May 6, 2006 14:52:58 GMT -6
I, as a citizen of the US, do not feel comfortable knowing that people think it's ok to have judicial misconduct (either defense or prosecution) I also know that ANYONE on this board or in this country that had a lawyer that had a personal and
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Post by xanax on May 6, 2006 14:55:16 GMT -6
On Wednesday, a federal judge in Houston ordered the release of death row inmate Calvin Jerold Burdine because the state filed for a new trial 15 days after the deadline. The state has a motion pending before the 5th Circuit to block his release. www.ccadp.org/pamnews.htm Wasn't this the guy who Texas and the 5th circuit felt that his lawyer, who slept through part of his trial, was a competant lawyer?  ? I think it is hypocritical of Texas to feel it is unfair if they pass the deadline to file something when the 5th circuit itself has refused to review cases because they missed deadlines. It's all political and a joke. |
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Post by jennaleigh on May 6, 2006 15:01:44 GMT -6
Pam Perillo was Karla Faye Tucker's former roommate. This mean she was once on death row. She is no longer on death row but not because she is innocent but because of a technicality. See not even the dp is a sure thing. What did she do she helped strangle two men to death. Her sentenced was reduced in 2000. Information on her homepage. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals late Thursday ruled 1 of 8 women on Texas death row must be retried or set free. The appeals court's decision upholds an earlier lower-court ruling ordering the state to give Pamela Lynn Perillo a new trial within 120 days of prosecutors exhausting their appeals. If not, Perillo must be released. The state also has the option of appealing the 5th Circuit ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court, a spokeswoman with the Texas Attorney General's office said Thursday. "We'll be making that determination with the Harris County District Attorney's office in the near future," spokeswoman Andrea Horton said. Perillo's attorney, Maryanne Lyons, could not be reached for comment late Thursday. Perillo was a bartender when she and 2 friends were picked up by Bob Skeens, 26, and Robert Banks, 30, while hitchhiking near Houston's Astrodome on Feb. 24, 1980. The 3 hitchhikers later robbed Skeens and Banks, and Perillo and James Michael Briddle eventually were sentenced to death for choking the 2 men to death with a rope. Briddle was executed in December 1995, and the 3rd person involved, Linda Fletcher, was sentenced to 5 years' probation. Last June, U.S. District Judge Ewing Werlein overturned Perillo's conviction after finding one of her attorneys had a personal and professional relationship with the chief witness against her. The judge also found that defense attorney Jim Skelton failed to discredit Fletcher's testimony at crucial points during Perillo's 1984 re-trial. Skelton represented Fletcher when she, her then-husband Briddle and Perillo were charged with the crime. Perillo later confessed, and all 3 were charged with capital murder. But the charge against Fletcher was reduced to aggravated robbery after Skelton convinced prosecutors she was not involved in the killings. Months after Fletcher was sentenced to 5 years' probation, Skelton gave her away at her wedding. Perillo is 1 of 8 women on Texas' death row. Last week, Texas executed Betty Lou Beets, who was only the 2nd woman put to death in the state since the Civil War. Convicted pickax killer Karla Faye Tucker became the 1st when she was executed on Feb. 3, 1998. On Wednesday, a federal judge in Houston ordered the release of death row inmate Calvin Jerold Burdine because the state filed for a new trial 15 days after the deadline. The state has a motion pending before the 5th Circuit to block his release. www.ccadp.org/pamnews.htmWow. I did not know there is a possibility she could be released entirely. That will be a miscarriage of justice if she is released. Perillo is a CONFESSED killer. I just don't understand situations like this.. |
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Post by josephdphillips on May 6, 2006 15:16:37 GMT -6
Wow. I did not know there is a possibility she could be released entirely. That will be a miscarriage of justice if she is released. Perillo is a CONFESSED killer. I just don't understand situations like this.. I understand these situations all too well. |
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Post by xanax on May 6, 2006 15:20:02 GMT -6
Pam Perillo was Karla Faye Tucker's former roommate. This mean she was once on death row. She is no longer on death row but not because she is innocent but because of a technicality. See not even the dp is a sure thing. What did she do she helped strangle two men to death. Her sentenced was reduced in 2000. Information on her homepage. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals late Thursday ruled 1 of 8 women on Texas death row must be retried or set free. The appeals court's decision upholds an earlier lower-court ruling ordering the state to give Pamela Lynn Perillo a new trial within 120 days of prosecutors exhausting their appeals. If not, Perillo must be released. The state also has the option of appealing the 5th Circuit ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court, a spokeswoman with the Texas Attorney General's office said Thursday. "We'll be making that determination with the Harris County District Attorney's office in the near future," spokeswoman Andrea Horton said. Perillo's attorney, Maryanne Lyons, could not be reached for comment late Thursday. Perillo was a bartender when she and 2 friends were picked up by Bob Skeens, 26, and Robert Banks, 30, while hitchhiking near Houston's Astrodome on Feb. 24, 1980. The 3 hitchhikers later robbed Skeens and Banks, and Perillo and James Michael Briddle eventually were sentenced to death for choking the 2 men to death with a rope. Briddle was executed in December 1995, and the 3rd person involved, Linda Fletcher, was sentenced to 5 years' probation. Last June, U.S. District Judge Ewing Werlein overturned Perillo's conviction after finding one of her attorneys had a personal and professional relationship with the chief witness against her. The judge also found that defense attorney Jim Skelton failed to discredit Fletcher's testimony at crucial points during Perillo's 1984 re-trial. Skelton represented Fletcher when she, her then-husband Briddle and Perillo were charged with the crime. Perillo later confessed, and all 3 were charged with capital murder. But the charge against Fletcher was reduced to aggravated robbery after Skelton convinced prosecutors she was not involved in the killings. Months after Fletcher was sentenced to 5 years' probation, Skelton gave her away at her wedding. Perillo is 1 of 8 women on Texas' death row. Last week, Texas executed Betty Lou Beets, who was only the 2nd woman put to death in the state since the Civil War. Convicted pickax killer Karla Faye Tucker became the 1st when she was executed on Feb. 3, 1998. On Wednesday, a federal judge in Houston ordered the release of death row inmate Calvin Jerold Burdine because the state filed for a new trial 15 days after the deadline. The state has a motion pending before the 5th Circuit to block his release. www.ccadp.org/pamnews.htmWow. I did not know there is a possibility she could be released entirely. That will be a miscarriage of justice if she is released. Perillo is a CONFESSED killer. I just don't understand situations like this..
conviction after finding one of her attorneys had a personal and
professional relationship with the chief witness against her.
The judge also found that defense attorney Jim Skelton failed to
discredit Fletcher's testimony at crucial points during Perillo's 1984
re-trial.
Skelton represented Fletcher when she, her then-husband Briddle and
Perillo were charged with the crime.
Perillo later confessed, and all 3 were charged with capital murder.
But the charge against Fletcher was reduced to aggravated robbery after
Skelton convinced prosecutors she was not involved in the killings.
Months after Fletcher was sentenced to 5 years' probation, Skelton
gave her away at her wedding. Are you comfortable with the defense lawyer this woman had? If this country would hire proper defense lawyers, then appeals would not be necessary. |
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Post by jennaleigh on May 6, 2006 15:26:55 GMT -6
xanax - I have read your posts, and well, I'm not impressed with them so far. So far, I've seen you do nothing but make excuses as to why these people are locked away, secluded and on death row. Pam Perillo confessed to these murders. So, the fact that one of her attorneys had personal ties with a witness is irrelevant to me. As for the others involved, I don't think their punishment was harsh enough. That's the only thing I'm uncomfortable with. And lastly, (Bear with me as I sound like Joseph here), it's not the states problem to hire her the best defense attorney to represent her. She committed the crime, if she wanted the best, or felt she deserved the best, it's HER responsibility to hire the best. Otherwise, she gets what the state gives her.
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Post by xanax on May 6, 2006 15:31:36 GMT -6
xanax - I have read your posts, and well, I'm not impressed with them so far. So far, I've seen you do nothing but make excuses as to why these people are locked away, secluded and on death row. Pam Perillo confessed to these murders. So, the fact that one of her attorneys had personal ties with a witness is irrelevant to me. As for the others involved, I don't think their punishment was harsh enough. That's the only thing I'm uncomfortable with. And lastly, (Bear with me as I sound like Joseph here), it's not the states problem to hire her the best defense attorney to represent her. She committed the crime, if she wanted the best, or felt she deserved the best, it's HER responsibility to hire the best. Otherwise, she gets what the state gives her. I'm not here for you to be impressed with me. I'm here to discuss the death penalty and what I feel is a flawed system and this article just shows how flawed it is. First, a lousy lawyer that had "personal" ties with a chief wittness and then mentions another man whose lawyer slept during his trial. My question to you..... would you accept this type of lawyer if you were being tried for murder? or a family member? I am not satisfied with a country that is willing to put someone to death under these circumstances, whether they confessed or not. |
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Post by xanax on May 6, 2006 15:42:28 GMT -6
it's not the states problem to hire her the best defense attorney to represent her. She committed the crime, if she wanted the best, or felt she deserved the best, it's HER responsibility to hire the best. Otherwise, she gets what the state gives her. I'm sorry, but I disagree with you. It is the states problem to provide a proper lawyer for her if she cannot afford one. That is in our constitution: The basic rights of a citizen under arrest are stated in the Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendments of the "Bill of Rights" of the United States Constitution.
• "No person . . . shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty or property, without due process of law . . ." (Fifth Amendment).
• "In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury . . . and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor; and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense." (Sixth Amendment).
• "Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor shall cruel and unusual punishments be inflicted." (Eighth Amendment).
Since the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, the states have also had to guarantee these rights. This amendment provides: "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of the citizens of the United States . . ." If the state of Texas is going to charge someone with capital murder and sentence them to death, then it is their responsibility to provide a lawyer that knows what he is doing. |
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Post by beej76 on May 6, 2006 16:37:54 GMT -6
Nice job DP - way to keep society safe.
Any thoughts on what would have happened if she were in LWOP? Think this case would have ever been looked at again? Maybe I'm wrong - are there a lot of cases overturned on LWOP? Known murderer, could be free, in my opinion, because of the extra scrutiny the DP so justly deserves. What a trainwreck...
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Post by Stormyweather on May 6, 2006 16:39:28 GMT -6
Nice job DP - way to keep society safe. Any thoughts on what would have happened if she were in LWOP? Think this case would have ever been looked at again? Maybe I'm wrong - are there a lot of cases overturned on LWOP? Known murderer, could be free, in my opinion, because of the extra scrutiny the DP so justly deserves. What a trainwreck... She probably still would have been entitled to a new trial. They still may have made a plea agreement with her if they didn't want to retry it. |
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Post by jennaleigh on May 6, 2006 16:41:24 GMT -6
You're right. The state is obligated to provide a lawyer to one who can not afford one. But, the state is not obligated to provide a lawyer that is to the liking of the accused.
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Post by xanax on May 6, 2006 17:16:03 GMT -6
You're right. The state is obligated to provide a lawyer to one who can not afford one. But, the state is not obligated to provide a lawyer that is to the liking of the accused. I didn't say the state had to provide a lawyer that is to the liking of the accused. I SAID, the state is responsible for providing an effective lawyer. There is a difference. I don't care if she liked the lawyer or not, but there was misconduct from the defense and that is not acceptable, or should not be acceptable in our justice system |
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Post by Big Al on May 6, 2006 17:16:38 GMT -6
This is a pretty strange scenario.
I will agree that the conduct of the lawyer is not acceptible at all. I would think that would merit a retrail. Although I don't see why they didn't try her again as she did confess to the murder.
I wonder how all the Anti's think about this?!?!?!?!? Someone who we know is guilty is getting off DR. You all must be thrilled !?!?!?!?
I do believe that the representation needs to be much better and that the prosecutors need to more carefully choose their Capital cases. Only so that the ones that are Capital Murder are done with more care so they can be more speedily exhaust their appeals and go on to execution.
Now that Texas has LWOP I would expect to see more cases that get that as opposed to the DP.
I don't understand why Texas executed her accomplice in 95 and she has been there for so long. Why are we so reluctant to execute women. We all know they are evil. (ha ha ha)
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Post by Big Al on May 6, 2006 17:32:28 GMT -6
My question to you..... would you accept this type of lawyer if you were being tried for murder? or a family member? I am not satisfied with a country that is willing to put someone to death under these circumstances, whether they confessed or not. If I was a murdering thief and had no money I would have to accept it. As I have said I do believe that represention needs to be better. But it doesn't take away from the fact that she killed these guys and has confessed. She should get a retrail based on the lawyers behaviour but she should also be found guilty again and sent back to DR. If you are not satisfied with this country then leave. It is a free country and that is your option. You know, the system worked so great for this lady. It not only recognized it's flaw and gave her the best deal possible. If that is not working for you I don't know what is. So the fact that she confessed means nothing to you. If she had got a TOTALLY fair trial and confessed you would be ok with it or would you be calling some else to attention? I hope that she is really missing her little pal Karla Faye. Because I bet Mr. Banks and Mr. Skeens families are missing the heck out of them. |
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Post by xanax on May 6, 2006 18:06:04 GMT -6
My question to you..... would you accept this type of lawyer if you were being tried for murder? or a family member? I am not satisfied with a country that is willing to put someone to death under these circumstances, whether they confessed or not. If I was a murdering thief and had no money I would have to accept it. As I have said I do believe that represention needs to be better. But it doesn't take away from the fact that she killed these guys and has confessed. She should get a retrail based on the lawyers behaviour but she should also be found guilty again and sent back to DR. If you are not satisfied with this country then leave. It is a free country and that is your option. You know, the system worked so great for this lady. It not only recognized it's flaw and gave her the best deal possible. If that is not working for you I don't know what is. So the fact that she confessed means nothing to you. If she had got a TOTALLY fair trial and confessed you would be ok with it or would you be calling some else to attention? I hope that she is really missing her little pal Karla Faye. Because I bet Mr. Banks and Mr. Skeens families are missing the heck out of them. I do not know whether she is guilty or not for I don't know anything about the case or have read any appeals or transcripts. I only care if she got a fair trial which she did not. I agree, she needs to be retried, with a lawyer that is an effective lawyer. I would agree to LWOP, but I do not believe in the death penalty. p.s....... I served in the military and am proud of my country. But I also believe our justice system is going awry and I don't want to see that happen. Is there a problem with believing in yoru countries justice system to be fair and proper? |
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Post by Stormyweather on May 6, 2006 18:24:26 GMT -6
I do not know whether she is guilty or not for I don't know anything about the case or have read any appeals or transcripts. {/quote} She confessed! duh! And you don't know.{quote} I only care if she got a fair trial which she did not. {quote} If she wasn't treated fair she wouldn't be off deathrow{quote} I agree, she needs to be retried, with a lawyer that is an effective lawyer. I would agree to LWOP, but I do not believe in the death penalty. {quote} Too late for the retrial. And she could have never gotten LWOP because Texas didn't have it then! |
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Post by Stormyweather on May 6, 2006 18:34:19 GMT -6
p.s....... I served in the military and am proud of my country. But I also believe our justice system is going awry and I don't want to see that happen. Is there a problem with believing in yoru countries justice system to be fair and proper? I agree too many people are getting away with far too much and victims are being treated as if they don't matter! |
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Post by Big Al on May 6, 2006 20:04:20 GMT -6
If I was a murdering thief and had no money I would have to accept it. As I have said I do believe that represention needs to be better. But it doesn't take away from the fact that she killed these guys and has confessed. She should get a retrail based on the lawyers behaviour but she should also be found guilty again and sent back to DR. If you are not satisfied with this country then leave. It is a free country and that is your option. You know, the system worked so great for this lady. It not only recognized it's flaw and gave her the best deal possible. If that is not working for you I don't know what is. So the fact that she confessed means nothing to you. If she had got a TOTALLY fair trial and confessed you would be ok with it or would you be calling some else to attention? I hope that she is really missing her little pal Karla Faye. Because I bet Mr. Banks and Mr. Skeens families are missing the heck out of them. I do not know whether she is guilty or not for I don't know anything about the case or have read any appeals or transcripts. I only care if she got a fair trial which she did not. I agree, she needs to be retried, with a lawyer that is an effective lawyer. I would agree to LWOP, but I do not believe in the death penalty. p.s....... I served in the military and am proud of my country. But I also believe our justice system is going awry and I don't want to see that happen. Is there a problem with believing in yoru countries justice system to be fair and proper? Well. She is guilty. She confessed. She didn't get a retrial, which to I agreed she should, and she got let off scott free. Whatever with that?!?!?! The fact that you don't agree with the DP doesn't matter because you are arguing for a fair trail and she got way more than a fair trial. She got commuted and will be on the streets in possible 4 years. Lucky piece of white trash. I respect you for serving in the military but it still stands. If you are not satisfied then leave. Yes you can question it all you want and thank our lucky stars we have that right. But if you are not satisfied or are fed up or think anywhere else is better then just leave. You have that right as well. |
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Post by Stormyweather on May 6, 2006 20:29:15 GMT -6
Did anyone see the page on how they treat "her" in prison. She helped strangle two men to death. What does she expect? I really can't feel sorry for her.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2006 8:46:26 GMT -6
Did anyone see the page on how they treat "her" in prison. She helped strangle two men to death. What does she expect? I really can't feel sorry for her. If what she says is true then I guess it is what it should be but also why do the men have it better?? |
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Post by Stormyweather on May 7, 2006 12:23:47 GMT -6
Did anyone see the page on how they treat "her" in prison. She helped strangle two men to death. What does she expect? I really can't feel sorry for her. If what she says is true then I guess it is what it should be but also why do the men have it better?? How do you know the men have it better? |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2006 18:57:29 GMT -6
... As for the others involved, I don't think their punishment was harsh enough. That's the only thing I'm uncomfortable with. Dang, jenna! They executed one of them, and that wasn't harsh enough for ya? I guess Texas should have used double secret execution.  |
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Post by jennaleigh on May 8, 2006 5:41:32 GMT -6
... As for the others involved, I don't think their punishment was harsh enough. That's the only thing I'm uncomfortable with. Dang, jenna! They executed one of them, and that wasn't harsh enough for ya? I guess Texas should have used double secret execution. I was referring to Fletcher. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2006 7:53:21 GMT -6
If what she says is true then I guess it is what it should be but also why do the men have it better?? How do you know the men have it better? I dont, I am only going on what she wrote oin that web sight and in IF infact what she states has any merrit then I asked the question why do men (DR) have it better? |
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