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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Jul 9, 2012 13:31:36 GMT -6
I dont know if this is genuine but this is a comment from a viewer: This video is ABSOLUTELY REAL, not fake, as minkladers and other losers have alleged. Fact: it's filmed prior to 1977 and is abridged. Certain scenes are not shown--that does not mean that those things don't happen. A leg electrode is attached, even if you don't see it. And the steam coming from his feet is due to the heated urine that you can see coming through this pants. The body may be too hot to touch right after the execution, but as I said, there are delays that the film doesn't show.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2012 15:34:47 GMT -6
It's from a "mondo" film called "This is America --part 2". That type of film contain both "mockumentaries" and real footage. This is probably acted out in a real prison by actors.
1. There were very few executions in the 1970s, and none were in the "midwest". 2. The one and only electrocution in the 1970s was in Florida in 1979. 3. The previous electrocution was in Oklahoma in 1966. 4. The poor lighting looks calculated to cover up discrepancies. 5. The prisoner is writhing. In a real electrocution, the prisoner's body flexes in one direction only. The muscles all contract at the same time. 6. Stuffing nostrils with cotton is superfluous and probably considered cruel. It's possible for them to bleed and has happened several times but it doesn't happen every time. Even when it does, I don't think the prison staff are so delicate they need to be protected from that. Quite a while ago they started masking the whole face with either a strap, a hood, or at least a cloth, to hide the face while the electricity is being applied. 7. There is usually little smoke, and no noticeable steam. 8. Electric chairs do buzz slightly but the sound in the video is a sound effect.
Usually the only drama is the body tensing, then relaxing somewhat gradually as the muscles are exhausted, then all at once when the current is shut off. I suspect this is part of what confuses the witnesses regarding what they are seeing and whether the prisoner is actually dead. It's not like a hanging where the body suddenly goes limp after a dramatic fall and possibly a snapping sound. When there are fireworks, it's popping noises and sometimes lights from arcing, smoke, and on rare occasions an actual flame.
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Jul 11, 2012 0:15:34 GMT -6
Thank you Wadeco I did wonder about the cowl/hood.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2012 1:31:42 GMT -6
I seen this the other day,if it aint real its a good fake.
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Jul 11, 2012 2:17:38 GMT -6
I liked that its dimly lit, gives more of a sense of menace and dread. Like when we saw Saddam Husseins hanging, very bleak.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2012 3:29:31 GMT -6
I liked that its dimly lit, gives more of a sense of menace and dread. Like when we saw Saddam Husseins hanging, very bleak. the part where their taking him to the chamber & he is saying goodbyes sounded like he was really fearing the chair,the smoke coming of the guy gives it credibility & the death mask at the end looked pretty real..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2012 18:54:20 GMT -6
There's another one like it someone posted a while back, another "mockumentary". No idea what movie it came out of. But it also portrayed an electrocution at a "midwestern" prison. More obvious that it wasn't real. But it did have some nice touches:
Very minimalistic procedures. Two guards escort him from his cell, to the cell holding the electric chair. Some prisons used to do that--the electric chair or the gallows was simply located in one of the spare cells. For some reason, they didn't shave his head. Oops. They strapped him in, pulled the switch, checked for a pulse, pulled it again, and he was declared dead.
Nowadays, they need entire special wings of the prison, special holding cells, special death chambers, witness rooms, and dedicated staff for each step of the process, which is itself rather more complicated. That's why executions are so costly these days, and the involvement of people who are not directly involved in the execution itself creates opportunities for un-necessary controversy and negative publicity.
Most realistic portrayal I have seen was the one in the movie "Bundy", but that one took some dramatic license too. There's no huge switch on the wall, just a dial in a room off to the side and back. They haven't done one big switch for a long time now, though actually that would probably simplify things too (it should probably be two switches for safety). It's usually a button or dial or key switch, and usually located in a different room so that whoever turns it on does not directly witness the result. Another un-necessary indirection.
And I've never hear that Bundy bled. It can happen, but when it does, there's usually a big uproar. Nowadays, at least. A long time ago that would not have been considered newsworthy.
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