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Post by Rev. Agave on Mar 17, 2011 13:31:32 GMT -6
Should such a cop be convicted of attempted murder if the tampering happened in a dp state? I'm not sure it would work that way. To get an idea, it would be a wise to look for cases where a law enforcement officer who knowingly tampered with evidence was convicted of false imprisonment or a similar crime. I am not aware of any such cases, but that and like inquires would be a good place to start.
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Post by Californian on Mar 17, 2011 15:51:30 GMT -6
Should such a cop be convicted of attempted murder if the tampering happened in a dp state? I'm not sure it would work that way. To get an idea, it would be a wise to look for cases where a law enforcement officer who knowingly tampered with evidence was convicted of false imprisonment or a similar crime. I am not aware of any such cases, but that and like inquires would be a good place to start. I seem to recall that in California, perjuring oneself to a defendant's disadvantage, causing an innocent person to be executed, is itself a DP offense. I leave it to you, counselor, to read California PC 128 et sequitur.
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Post by Rev. Agave on Mar 17, 2011 16:01:20 GMT -6
I'm not sure it would work that way. To get an idea, it would be a wise to look for cases where a law enforcement officer who knowingly tampered with evidence was convicted of false imprisonment or a similar crime. I am not aware of any such cases, but that and like inquires would be a good place to start. I seem to recall that in California, perjuring oneself to a defendant's disadvantage, causing an innocent person to be executed, is itself a DP offense. I leave it to you, counselor, to read California PC 128 et sequitur. It can't be much clearer than that
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Post by mel77 on Mar 18, 2011 8:28:51 GMT -6
Ok.
So DA Dept X bases it's murder case against M essentially on evidence collected by cops P and D.
M is convicted of murder and is sentenced to death.
The circus-pros do a justice-dance and rejoice... hoorah, we have another murderer we can have juiced.
M claims his innocence and so do his supporters, who, naturally, are labelled antis and thug-lovers and sickos by the circus-pros.
Then it turns out that cops P and D were corrupt pices of sh** who tampered with evidence.
M is exonorated (or, alternatively, M is put to death beforehand).
P and D both receive the death sentence.
Now all the circus-pros are all dancing and rejoicing again because there are new persons to be juiced.
ed: sp
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Post by ltdc on Mar 18, 2011 10:21:54 GMT -6
Ok. So DA Dept X bases it's murder case against M essentially on evidence collected by cops P and D. M is convicted of murder and is sentenced to LWOP. The circus-antis do a justice-dance and rejoice... hoorah, we ONLY caged a innocent man for life. M claims his innocence and so do his supporters, who, naturally, are labelled antis and thug-lovers Then it turns out that cops P and D were corrupt pices of sh** who tampered with evidence. M would have been exonorated but unfortunatley he died in prison waiting. deluded-antis do the self righteous dance that at least he wasn't executed thanking their "flying spaghetti monster" that he ONLY spent 40 years in prison before dying. too bad P and D both receive LWOP Now all the circus-antis are all pissing and moaning because LWOP is for criminals, DP is for bad cops edited by reality
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Post by honkybouffant on Mar 19, 2011 16:00:16 GMT -6
Ok. So DA Dept X bases it's murder case against M essentially on evidence collected by cops P and D. M is convicted of murder and is sentenced to LWOP. The circus-antis do a justice-dance and rejoice... hoorah, we ONLY caged a innocent man for life. M claims his innocence and so do his supporters, who, naturally, are labelled antis and thug-lovers Then it turns out that cops P and D were corrupt pices of sh** who tampered with evidence. M would have been exonorated but unfortunatley he died in prison waiting. deluded-antis do the self righteous dance that at least he wasn't executed thanking their "flying spaghetti monster" that he ONLY spent 40 years in prison before dying. too bad P and D both receive LWOP Now all the circus-antis are all pissing and moaning because LWOP is for criminals, DP is for bad cops edited by reality a fool. edited by Facto Facts-R-Us.
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Post by ltdc on Mar 20, 2011 21:37:27 GMT -6
over and over, again and again he tries and again he fails, he just can't seem to make himself do it.
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Post by Rev. Agave on Mar 20, 2011 22:08:15 GMT -6
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Post by whitediamonds on Mar 20, 2011 22:40:34 GMT -6
O/T in a way, yet not really.
I have a whole lot of respect for Japan, the lack of looting, assaults, murders thru the most surreal series of disasters, the dignity, polite,and how they work together, humanity shown for the whole of their society toward and for one another.
I believe not often used, but are wise enough to know sometimes the DP is the right thing to do or needed.
They have it right !!!!
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Post by HANGMAN1981 on Mar 21, 2011 21:01:16 GMT -6
O/T in a way, yet not really. I have a whole lot of respect for Japan, the lack of looting, assaults, murders thru the most surreal series of disasters, the dignity, polite,and how they work together, humanity shown for the whole of their society toward and for one another. I believe not often used, but are wise enough to know sometimes the DP is the right thing to do or needed. They have it right !!!! A major reason for their low crime rate is their lack is their lack of minorities and gangbangers. They also execute without setting a date.
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Post by oslooskar on Mar 21, 2011 22:22:17 GMT -6
I have a whole lot of respect for Japan, the lack of looting, assaults, murders thru the most surreal series of disasters, the dignity, polite,and how they work together, humanity shown for the whole of their society toward and for one another. Yeah, but unlike the Germans they never took responsibility for their war crimes.
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Post by whitediamonds on Mar 21, 2011 23:36:52 GMT -6
I have a whole lot of respect for Japan, the lack of looting, assaults, murders thru the most surreal series of disasters, the dignity, polite,and how they work together, humanity shown for the whole of their society toward and for one another. Yeah, but unlike the Germans they never took responsibility for their war crimes. That was before I was born obviously. lol You mean an apology I am tired as hell but, from my Zippy view no apology is needed it has been so many years let it go. Also the sneak attack was a military target they hit.. Verses our attack took out over I believe 200,000 civilians women/children, few military. So, I believe this is one great reason no apology is needed.
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Post by oslooskar on Mar 22, 2011 3:59:45 GMT -6
Yeah, but unlike the Germans they never took responsibility for their war crimes. That was before I was born obviously. lol You mean an apology I am tired as hell but, from my Zippy view no apology is needed it has been so many years let it go. Also the sneak attack was a military target they hit.. Verses our attack took out over I believe 200,000 civilians women/children, few military. So, I believe this is one great reason no apology is needed. Amazing! I had no idea anyone could be so ignorant of the history of World War II and the events leading up to it. For your information, the Japanese military murdered at least as many civilians as the Germans if not more. I suggest that you read Iris Chang's “The Rape of Nanking”. It might cure some of your ignorance.
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Post by whitediamonds on Mar 22, 2011 7:13:46 GMT -6
That was before I was born obviously. lol You mean an apology I am tired as hell but, from my Zippy view no apology is needed it has been so many years let it go. Also the sneak attack was a military target they hit.. Verses our attack took out over I believe 200,000 civilians women/children, few military. So, I believe this is one great reason no apology is needed. Amazing! I had no idea anyone could be so ignorant of the history of World War II and the events leading up to it. For your information, the Japanese military murdered at least as many civilians as the Germans if not more. I suggest that you read Iris Chang's “The Rape of Nanking”. It might cure some of your ignorance. The Rape of Nanking' I know. Does that justify dumping Nuke bombs the ultimate weapon on two cities in Japan, innocnet women children killed. I guess every country has commited war crimes. I think as far as apology's go, we owe none nor do they for what was done by ancestors of decades ago. I know today, I admire whom they as a country have become. As well as what Germany too, have learned and become. Apologys way to late. Change is apology enough, that alone is an apology in itself thru the years since........
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Post by oslooskar on Mar 22, 2011 22:22:46 GMT -6
The Rape of Nanking' I know. Obviously you haven’t read it! Does that justify dumping Nuke bombs the ultimate weapon on two cities in Japan, innocnet women children killed. Good grief! You’ve got to be dumber than a sack of potatoes! We nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki in order to compel the Japanese to surrender and thus prevent 500,000 to one million American casualties. The Rape of Nanking had nothing to do with it. I guess every country has commited war crimes. I think as far as apology's go, we owe none nor do they for what was done by ancestors of decades ago. I know today, I admire whom they as a country have become. As well as what Germany too, have learned and become. Apologys way to late. Change is apology enough, that alone is an apology in itself thru the years since........ I see, so if I understand you correctly you don’t think it was necessary for Germany to admit its crimes against humanity or make restitution for such atrocities. Is that correct?
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Post by whitediamonds on Mar 22, 2011 23:28:16 GMT -6
The Rape of Nanking' I know. Obviously you haven’t read it! Many would argue with you that book is pure baloney!! Good grief! You’ve got to be dumber than a sack of potatoes! We nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki in order to compel the Japanese to surrender and thus prevent 500,000 to one million American casualties. The Rape of Nanking had nothing to do with it. Ii do not believe that ever happened, the book is dumb as a sack of potatoes. tquote author=whitediamonds board=general thread=32331 post=583026 time=1300799626]I guess every country has commited war crimes. I think as far as apology's go, we owe none nor do they for what was done by ancestors of decades ago. I know today, I admire whom they as a country have become. As well as what Germany too, have learned and become. Apologys way to late. Change is apology enough, that alone is an apology in itself thru the years since........ I see, so if I understand you correctly you don’t think it was necessary for Germany to admit its crimes against humanity or make restitution for such atrocities. Is that correct? [/quote] Decades later nooooooooo what good would it do anymore?
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Post by oslooskar on Mar 22, 2011 23:55:07 GMT -6
Decades later nooooooooo what good would it do anymore? I did NOT say decades later! Now, answer the question and stop being evasive.
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Post by mel77 on Mar 23, 2011 7:14:07 GMT -6
.. ah, yet another "holy cow-thread".
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Post by jan on Mar 23, 2011 7:20:57 GMT -6
I dont see the link between war and the original thread.
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Post by whitediamonds on Mar 23, 2011 8:11:33 GMT -6
Trillions of innocents executed in much more horrible ways/reasons then LI done to muderers?.
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Post by honkybouffant on Mar 23, 2011 17:25:03 GMT -6
I dont see the link between war and the original thread. It's easy. Someone posts data showing that an innocent was executed. The pros have no answer. So they change the topic. See the connection now?
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Post by mel77 on Mar 24, 2011 7:16:35 GMT -6
Trillions of innocents executed in much more horrible ways/reasons then LI done to muderers?. Are you writing about the planet you live on?
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Post by arizonavet on Apr 18, 2011 11:59:34 GMT -6
This is an unbelievable "streatch"..... You have to believe, as in the OJ Simpson trial, that police detectives, forensic doctors, lab tech's......all contrive to tell out-and-out lies, to intentionally convict an innocent man....
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Post by arizonavet on Apr 18, 2011 12:03:32 GMT -6
Ok. So DA Dept X bases it's murder case against M essentially on evidence collected by cops P and D. M is convicted of murder and is sentenced to death. The circus-pros do a justice-dance and rejoice... hoorah, we have another murderer we can have juiced. M claims his innocence and so do his supporters, who, naturally, are labelled antis and thug-lovers and sickos by the circus-pros. Then it turns out that cops P and D were corrupt pices of sh** who tampered with evidence. M is exonorated (or, alternatively, M is put to death beforehand). P and D both receive the death sentence. Now all the circus-pros are all dancing and rejoicing again because there are new persons to be juiced. ed: sp "dancing & rejoicing" ? No more than anti's "dance & rejoice" when a murderer escapes & kills more innocents....
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Post by Big Al on Apr 18, 2011 22:36:23 GMT -6
Ok. So DA Dept X bases it's murder case against M essentially on evidence collected by cops P and D. M is convicted of murder and is sentenced to death. The circus-pros do a justice-dance and rejoice... hoorah, we have another murderer we can have juiced. M claims his innocence and so do his supporters, who, naturally, are labelled antis and thug-lovers and sickos by the circus-pros. Then it turns out that cops P and D were corrupt pices of sh** who tampered with evidence. M is exonorated (or, alternatively, M is put to death beforehand). P and D both receive the death sentence. Now all the circus-pros are all dancing and rejoicing again because there are new persons to be juiced. ed: sp "dancing & rejoicing" ? No more than anti's "dance & rejoice" when a murderer escapes & kills more innocents.... Does anybody really dance and rejoice when a murderer escapes and kills somebody? I can understand if you had said, "dances and rejoices when a person gets his sentence commuted to LWOP" but there is probably not an anti dp person I know that would dance around and rejoice at the murder of a prison escapee. Or any murder actually. Even those at the hands of the state.
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Post by Big Al on Apr 18, 2011 22:38:04 GMT -6
I must say George that you have one of the most convoluted visions of the DP I have ever seen.
Just very difficult for me to grasp.
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Post by arizonavet on Apr 19, 2011 6:46:05 GMT -6
"dancing & rejoicing" ? No more than anti's "dance & rejoice" when a murderer escapes & kills more innocents.... Does anybody really dance and rejoice when a murderer escapes and kills somebody? I can understand if you had said, "dances and rejoices when a person gets his sentence commuted to LWOP" but there is probably not an anti dp person I know that would dance around and rejoice at the murder of a prison escapee. Or any murder actually. Even those at the hands of the state. You can't understand, what you really didn't read. I said, "NO MORE THAN" a murderer escapes...bla bla... It was "MEL" who stated: quote: Now all the circus-pros are all dancing and rejoicing again because there are new persons to be juiced. unquote. It was Arizonavet who said that noone, pro or anti "rejoices" over executions or victims. (with a few rare exceptions on both sides) Understand me better now? What I don't understand is how anyone could have such a "fire in the belly" for the lives of these murderous scum-bags.... That they would readily risk another child being slaughtered to give them"life". I don't care WHAT any anti says....they get out, they escape, they are pardoned by idiot governors, they kill in prison...guards AND young prisoners.... No, I'm quite proud that my "fire in the belly" is for the true victims.
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Post by arizonavet on Apr 19, 2011 7:24:17 GMT -6
Hey, if you don't want to be found guilty for raping an elderly nun...
don't confess to raping the 76 year old nun....
Garrett confessed!!!!
He said one of his "multiple personalities"......"Aaron" killed the nun.
The world is a better place with this stick of dynomite gone.
Get over it.
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