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Post by belsogno on May 23, 2009 17:01:26 GMT -6
I wouldn't start another flame but I don't know how exactly it works. Have the inmate there the right to vote? In any case do you agree with it?
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Post by Elric of Melnibone on May 23, 2009 18:01:25 GMT -6
Not in Florida. I believe a felon there has lost their right to vote until they can get their rights restored. Yes, I agree with it.
Not sure about Texas.
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Post by kingsindanger on May 23, 2009 19:25:02 GMT -6
Inmates should not have the right to vote. Afterall, they have shown they cannot follow the criminal laws. How, then, can you expect them to follow the voting laws and the issues behind them?
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Post by ltdc on May 23, 2009 20:20:15 GMT -6
I wouldn't start another flame but I don't know how exactly it works. Have the inmate there the right to vote? In any case do you agree with it? of course they shouldn't be allowed to vote. what possible rationale could there be for allowing voting?? they've got debts to pay off. maybe, MAYBE after prison and a looong probationary period with ZERO problems, they can come back to society and vote. I seriously doubt most of them would vote in or out
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Post by Rev. Agave on May 23, 2009 20:30:40 GMT -6
I think that after prison/probation/parole, a felon should be able to vote. Voting is, after all, supposed to be a positive thing and a sign of civic responsibility. Why keep felons disenfranchised from politics forever? I am not saying they should be able to vote in prison or even when they are still "on paper" (as in parole or probation), but after that, enough is enough. I cannot think of any real harm that could come from society allowing a felon to vote after s/he has fulfilled her/his sentence. Indeed, if allowing felons to vote would affect the outcomes of our elections, that reflects more negatively on our society as a whole than it does the felons themselves.
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Post by belsogno on May 23, 2009 20:35:29 GMT -6
I think that after prison/probation/parole, a felon should be able to vote. Voting is, after all, supposed to be a positive thing and a sign of civic responsibility. Why keep felons disenfranchised from politics forever? I am not saying they should be able to vote in prison or even when they are still "on paper" (as in parole or probation), but after that, enough is enough. I can not think of any real harm that could come from society allowing felons to vote after they have fulfilled there sentence. Indeed, if allowing felons to vote would affect the outcomes of our elections, that reflects more negatively on our society as a whole than it does the felons themselves. Agree with you Agave I would support the right to vote depending on the term to serve in prison. I mean when you are serving 30 days or something shouldn't you vote? What about when you are jailed waiting you trial? How does it work?
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2009 21:01:38 GMT -6
I think that after prison/probation/parole, a felon should be able to vote. Voting is, after all, supposed to be a positive thing and a sign of civic responsibility. Why keep felons disenfranchised from politics forever? I am not saying they should be able to vote in prison or even when they are still "on paper" (as in parole or probation), but after that, enough is enough. I can not think of any real harm that could come from society allowing felons to vote after they have fulfilled there sentence. Indeed, if allowing felons to vote would affect the outcomes of our elections, that reflects more negatively on our society as a whole than it does the felons themselves. Agree with you Agave I would support the right to vote depending on the term to serve in prison. I mean when you are serving 30 days or something shouldn't you vote? What about when you are jailed waiting you trial? How does it work? I doubt that they set up a polling both in the prison for those awaiting trial even if they are not yet convicted of the crime they would not have the ability to vote. As for your other question I don't believe convicts should be allowed to vote, however once they have completed their sentence they should once again be allowed to vote.
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Post by Californian on May 23, 2009 21:26:22 GMT -6
Felons are proscribed from voting while incarcerated. Whether voting rights are restored after the completion of sentence is the purview of the several states.
In California, a felon who has completed parole has his or her voting rights automatically restored.
Incarcerated misdemeanants may vote in every state.
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Post by Rev. Agave on May 23, 2009 21:45:04 GMT -6
In California, a felon who has completed parole has his or her voting rights automatically restored. That is how it is here too.
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Post by mst3k4evur on May 24, 2009 16:57:46 GMT -6
No. Having failed the most basic test of citizenship, following our laws, how can any inmate serving time for a felony feel they can decide the shape of the government they have defied or the law they've broken?
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on May 25, 2009 1:31:25 GMT -6
Im not against them voting after the sentence has been completed, but my guess is they don't bother voting. But im just going by the criminals over here who wouldn't recognise a voting slip even if it was flavoured with cannabis
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Post by john - uk on May 25, 2009 1:48:13 GMT -6
Im not against them voting after the sentence has been completed, but my guess is they don't bother voting. But im just going by the criminals over here who wouldn't recognise a voting slip even if it was flavoured with cannabis Thanks to our tin-pot Government and the ECHR prisoners in this country are going to be given the right to vote at some stage. Whether they bother is of course another matter. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-422726/Ministers-concede-vote-prisoners.html
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Post by lawrence on May 26, 2009 5:06:43 GMT -6
I believe at the moment they cant as they lose all rights when inside apart from their human rights (debatable) but thanks to Europe ....again and the Human Rights Act (which labour signed up too) they are getting the vote soon.
In my humble opinion , no they shouldnt, also if you dont vote then dont criticise. Vote, then moan. Me personally, come the Euro elections next week, still not decided, Concervative or one fo the fringe parties as a protest against the parliaments disgracful antics lately. They should all resign and let the people have their say (oh look, a herd of flying pigs)
I couldnt vote Labour on principle, they just cant seem to get it right and they always F*** it up when they get in power, just look at what happened in the late 70's and now they are doing it again.
Wankers the lot of them and the cons for being inside. It makes no difference to them who gets in unless its the BNP, then they will have problems with their human rights which wouldnt be a bad thing.
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Post by D.E.E. on May 26, 2009 20:22:03 GMT -6
Not in Florida. I believe a felon there has lost their right to vote until they can get their rights restored. Yes, I agree with it. Not sure about Texas. Not in Texas either, the way it should be.
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Post by Matt on May 28, 2009 15:43:28 GMT -6
It's kind of an ironic post, isn't it, when you consider that most Americans, felons or otherwise, don't even bother to vote.
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Post by Californian on May 28, 2009 17:51:04 GMT -6
It's kind of an ironic post, isn't it, when you consider that most Americans, felons or otherwise, don't even bother to vote. I haven't missed an election of any kind in 20 years.
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Post by honeyroastedpeanut on May 29, 2009 3:02:40 GMT -6
It's kind of an ironic post, isn't it, when you consider that most Americans, felons or otherwise, don't even bother to vote. Would be cool to see a thug party emerge. Some guy with tatooed tears in his face talks about the grievances robbers face these days because of the financial crisis, that there's not enough cash in the register. Further demands would probably be two weeks paid vacation for all inmates and a new national holiday: "Tookie Day".
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