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Post by Royd on Mar 10, 2009 12:43:05 GMT -6
Reading through Genesis, one finds this;
11:4 And Moses said, Thus saith the LORD, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt:
11:5 And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the first born of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts.
These verses clearly show that the mass murder of innocent children by God was premeditated.
If God could be put on trial, would God be found guilty?
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Post by forgesfire on Mar 10, 2009 12:47:48 GMT -6
Hopefully. The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.
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Post by Royd on Mar 10, 2009 12:51:44 GMT -6
Hopefully. The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. Apart from that, is fine
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Mar 10, 2009 12:57:23 GMT -6
I wonder who the prison chaplain would suggest God pray to on his last day? ;D And what Gods last meal would be? My votes on a KFC with pickles and ice cream ;D
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Post by josephdphillips on Mar 10, 2009 13:00:18 GMT -6
Reading through Genesis, one finds this; 11:4 And Moses said, Thus saith the LORD, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt: 11:5 And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the first born of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts. These verses clearly show that the mass murder of innocent children by God was premeditated. He was the world's first anti-Semite.
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Post by Matt on Mar 10, 2009 13:10:37 GMT -6
If God could be put on trial, would God be found guilty? I see numerous practical difficulties with such a trial. For starters, I doubt you'd be able to find an impartial jury, unless they were from elsewhere in the United Federation of Planets. Further, if He didn't like either the procedings or the verdict, wouldn't He just smite the entire courtroom?
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Post by honeyroastedpeanut on Mar 10, 2009 13:32:21 GMT -6
OK, whoever this guy is Royd's talking about, he's gotta be stopped. If he keeps on killing all these Egyptians Allah will be p*ssed. Bet the Jews and the CIA are behind that...
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Post by RED on Mar 10, 2009 13:43:09 GMT -6
Reading through Genesis, one finds this; 11:4 And Moses said, Thus saith the LORD, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt: 11:5 And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the first born of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts. These verses clearly show that the mass murder of innocent children by God was premeditated. If God could be put on trial, would God be found guilty? Funny. Being that he (or she, if you ask Mrs. RED) was punishing humans under the color of undisputed, sovereign power, I'd say that God would not be eligible for prosecution anymore than governors or presidents are eligible for prosecution when they sign a death warrant. Love, RED
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Post by Rev. Agave on Mar 10, 2009 15:15:58 GMT -6
If God could be put on trial, would God be found guilty? Clearly not. Murder involves a human being killing another person. Because the Old Testament x-ian God is not a human being, he/it could not by definition commit murder.
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Post by kingsindanger on Mar 10, 2009 22:11:27 GMT -6
Hopefully. The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. Petty might be pushing it over the top. ;D
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Post by PIP on Mar 10, 2009 22:18:57 GMT -6
Reading through Genesis, one finds this; 11:4 And Moses said, Thus saith the LORD, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt: 11:5 And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the first born of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts. These verses clearly show that the mass murder of innocent children by God was premeditated. If God could be put on trial, would God be found guilty? Funny. Being that he (or she, if you ask Mrs. RED) was punishing humans under the color of undisputed, sovereign power, I'd say that God would not be eligible for prosecution anymore than governors or presidents are eligible for prosecution when they sign a death warrant. Love, RED Oh that's creative, AND funny. Thanks for the chuckle.
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Post by Royd on Mar 12, 2009 16:12:38 GMT -6
"anymore than governors or presidents are eligible for prosecution when they sign a death warrant."
Tariq Azziz of Iraq seems to have not benefited from that clause.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2009 18:07:14 GMT -6
Reading through Genesis, one finds this; 11:4 And Moses said, Thus saith the LORD, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt: 11:5 And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the first born of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts. These verses clearly show that the mass murder of innocent children by God was premeditated. If God could be put on trial, would God be found guilty? Funny. Being that he (or she, if you ask Mrs. RED) was punishing humans under the color of undisputed, sovereign power, I'd say that God would not be eligible for prosecution anymore than governors or presidents are eligible for prosecution when they sign a death warrant. Love, RED I beleive that some governors are on the list in Den Haag....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2009 18:35:13 GMT -6
Funny. Being that he (or she, if you ask Mrs. RED) was punishing humans under the color of undisputed, sovereign power, I'd say that God would not be eligible for prosecution anymore than governors or presidents are eligible for prosecution when they sign a death warrant. Love, RED I beleive that some governors are on the list in Den Haag.... Really? Would love to see a reference to this..
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Post by kingsindanger on Mar 12, 2009 19:25:46 GMT -6
Funny. Being that he (or she, if you ask Mrs. RED) was punishing humans under the color of undisputed, sovereign power, I'd say that God would not be eligible for prosecution anymore than governors or presidents are eligible for prosecution when they sign a death warrant. Love, RED I beleive that some governors are on the list in Den Haag.... Have you ever tried to commit suicide by jumping out of a basement window?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2009 19:32:52 GMT -6
I beleive that some governors are on the list in Den Haag.... Have you ever tried to commit suicide by jumping out of a basement window? I asked for proof, I even looked it up and the result is that Scott
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2009 19:55:05 GMT -6
Have you ever tried to commit suicide by jumping out of a basement window? I asked for proof, I even looked it up and the result is that Scott Let's see what happens if schmucks like Rick Perry (not doing anything about those a-holes in Tenaha, are ya Ricky baby?) travel overseas and get served with a warrant...
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Post by amazonfuneralpyre on Mar 12, 2009 20:34:53 GMT -6
Aww, guys come on now.... The christian God who I met in the New Testament is a real sweetie (for the most part anyways)
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Post by Californian on Mar 12, 2009 21:13:13 GMT -6
Aww, guys come on now.... The christian God who I met in the New Testament is a real sweetie (for the most part anyways) Matthew 10:45: ""I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."
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Post by Californian on Mar 12, 2009 21:17:27 GMT -6
Further, if He didn't like either the procedings or the verdict, wouldn't He just smite the entire courtroom?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2009 0:29:02 GMT -6
Aww, guys come on now.... The christian God who I met in the New Testament is a real sweetie (for the most part anyways)
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Post by lawrence on Mar 13, 2009 1:52:37 GMT -6
You could also say this about mens evil doing such as Auschwitz.
I saw a TV documentary not long ago, some Brits might have seen this about a Jewish trial of god in that camp, very interesting it was too. It might have been Channel 4 or was it BBC 1. Roy help me out here.
For me , i don't personally believe in a super being as such, even though i consider my self a good Protestant Christian, i believe in faith and mankind. If there was or is a GOD then i guess he would be pretty disappointed at our petty squabbles and personal greed and all the other deadly sins. From what Ive seen we've made a pretty big mess of things.
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Mar 13, 2009 4:08:00 GMT -6
You could also say this about mens evil doing such as Auschwitz. I saw a TV documentary not long ago, some Brits might have seen this about a Jewish trial of god in that camp, very interesting it was too. It might have been Channel 4 or was it BBC 1. Roy help me out here. For me , i don't personally believe in a super being as such, even though i consider my self a good Protestant Christian, i believe in faith and mankind. If there was or is a GOD then i guess he would be pretty disappointed at our petty squabbles and personal greed and all the other deadly sins. From what Ive seen we've made a pretty big mess of things. There was God On Trial on BBC2? Ive still got it somewhere on the Sky plus.
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Post by johnnyrep on Mar 13, 2009 4:17:51 GMT -6
Hopefully. The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. Why don't you put quotation marks around that - Richard Dawkins wrote it....
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Post by lawrence on Mar 13, 2009 6:07:33 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2009 7:49:10 GMT -6
I asked for proof, I even looked it up and the result is that Scott Let's see what happens if schmucks like Rick Perry (not doing anything about those a-holes in Tenaha, are ya Ricky baby?) travel overseas and get served with a warrant... I will be happy to eat my words Scott, show me a link that they are wanted by an international court.
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Post by Californian on Mar 13, 2009 8:04:02 GMT -6
I will be happy to eat my words Scott, show me a link that they are wanted by an international court. Not much chance of a humbling meal, is there, Doc? Snotty's always long on rhetoric and short on facts. ;D
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Post by RED on Mar 13, 2009 8:32:54 GMT -6
"anymore than governors or presidents are eligible for prosecution when they sign a death warrant." Tariq Azziz of Iraq seems to have not benefited from that clause. Oh, I'm sorry. When I used the words "governors and presidents" I assumed folks would understand those words as referring to governors and presidents in the United States. I mean, Tariq Azziz, last time I checked, was never elected governor or president in the United States. Love, RED
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Post by RED on Mar 13, 2009 8:34:19 GMT -6
Oh, oh. Lunatic alert. ;D Funny. Being that he (or she, if you ask Mrs. RED) was punishing humans under the color of undisputed, sovereign power, I'd say that God would not be eligible for prosecution anymore than governors or presidents are eligible for prosecution when they sign a death warrant. Love, RED I beleive that some governors are on the list in Den Haag....
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Post by Elric of Melnibone on Mar 13, 2009 9:21:48 GMT -6
Considering that God sent Moses and Aaron to tell Pharoah to let His people go and warned them again and again, God had the RIGHT to send a hitter to deal with the problem. Plus you have to remember that God does have a sense of humour. In 1st Samuel, God hit the Philistines with hemmoroids. Which to a cutlure that rode horses to get anywhere...that had to hurt. God is not different in either section of the Bible. He is not going to change for us, WE change for him.
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