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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2009 7:48:28 GMT -6
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Post by SubSurfCPO(ret) on Mar 1, 2009 15:08:19 GMT -6
Very interesting and informative; a good piece of reporting. They did not offer an opinion one way or another and which lets the observer make up their own minds.
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Post by kingsindanger on Mar 1, 2009 15:26:28 GMT -6
Good stuff
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Post by Tracy on Mar 1, 2009 15:30:46 GMT -6
Every single scumpal on earth needs to watch the video of Junny Rios-Martinez's parents, if someone can watch that and still support these murdering monsters they are in need of some serious mental help. After seeing that video and then flipping over to PTO and seeing mark schwabs idiotic scumpal talk about him, referring to him as a nice guy, and defending his life is truly sickening. Like Junny's father said, "We dont even put our dogs down as peacefully as we do murderers", they feel no pain they go to sleep, just dont seem fair when you compare what they (as in DR inmates) have done to get to the gurney to begin with. Ill never understand why we should give a rats a** about their rights. Because theyre human??? Humans dont lure children to be raped and murdered, animals/predators do, so why do they deserve better than a dog?
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Post by kingsindanger on Mar 1, 2009 15:45:06 GMT -6
Every single scumpal on earth needs to watch the video of Junny Rios-Martinez's parents, if someone can watch that and still support these murdering monsters they are in need of some serious mental help. After seeing that video and then flipping over to PTO and seeing mark schwabs idiotic scumpal talk about him, referring to him as a nice guy, and defending his life is truly sickening. Like Junny's father said, "We dont even put our dogs down as peacefully as we do murderers", they feel no pain they go to sleep, just dont seem fair when you compare what they (as in DR inmates) have done to get to the gurney to begin with. Ill never understand why we should give a rats a** about their rights. Because theyre human??? Humans dont lure children to be raped and murdered, animals/predators do, so why do they deserve better than a dog? Well stated.
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Post by Tim S on Mar 3, 2009 5:19:56 GMT -6
Interesting is the fact Ron McAndrew former warden of the prison proclaims that life on death row is paramount to torture and he goes on to say that " leave a person on death row for 25/30 years if thats not punishment I don't know what is" My conclusion is that he seems to mean that life on death row is a harsher punishment than the dp.
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Post by Royd on Mar 3, 2009 5:33:25 GMT -6
" life on death row is paramount to torture "
A minor inconveniance when compared to endless death that a victim endures.
Besides, the criminal only has themselves to blame for their predicament.
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Mar 3, 2009 5:45:19 GMT -6
A great site! Thanks Porky
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Post by Tim S on Mar 3, 2009 8:29:42 GMT -6
" life on death row is paramount to torture " A minor inconveniance when compared to endless death that a victim endures. Besides, the criminal only has themselves to blame for their predicament. Please Royd use the whole qoute. Here is a former boss of the prison practically saying that being on death row for twenty thirty years is a worse punishment than the dp. In fact the only thing these people have to look forward to is death. Its brilliant!
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Post by D.E.E. on Mar 3, 2009 8:39:24 GMT -6
" life on death row is paramount to torture " A minor inconveniance when compared to endless death that a victim endures. Besides, the criminal only has themselves to blame for their predicament. Please Royd use the whole qoute. Here is a former boss of the prison practically saying that being on death row for twenty thirty years is a worse punishment than the dp. In fact the only thing these people have to look forward to is death. Its brilliant! It is all they should have to look forward to. It is their punishment and they earned it.
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Post by lawrence on Mar 3, 2009 8:51:16 GMT -6
Morning David, straight to the point i see , p.s. book is on the way. Enjoy
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Post by D.E.E. on Mar 3, 2009 8:59:25 GMT -6
Morning David, straight to the point i see , p.s. book is on the way. Enjoy Yes I see no reason that murderers should have anything to lookforward to other than death. PS yours will be sent either today or tomorrow, I have been out of town.
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Post by Royd on Mar 3, 2009 9:05:17 GMT -6
" life on death row is paramount to torture " A minor inconveniance when compared to endless death that a victim endures. Besides, the criminal only has themselves to blame for their predicament. Please Royd use the whole qoute. Here is a former boss of the prison practically saying that being on death row for twenty thirty years is a worse punishment than the dp. In fact the only thing these people have to look forward to is death. Its brilliant! Maybe their suffering would be less if they did not wriggle so much, besides, why the sympathy for them?
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Post by Tim S on Mar 3, 2009 9:06:02 GMT -6
Don't you just love it on this board when people disagree with you not because they disagree with your point but just because one is on the other side of the arguement and therefore they have to disagree. Please listen to what the prison warden says.
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Post by Royd on Mar 3, 2009 9:09:49 GMT -6
There is an old saying, "if you can't stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen", the prison warden has obviously gone soft in the head, so should move on to lighter duties. BTW, long time no argue
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Post by D.E.E. on Mar 3, 2009 9:18:50 GMT -6
Don't you just love it on this board when people disagree with you not because they disagree with your point but just because one is on the other side of the arguement and therefore they have to disagree. Please listen to what the prison warden says. I listened to it and I work in a unit that is not much different, mind does not get tv, just a radio. Some of them are going to be there for the rest of their life. It is still better than death if you do not believe it ask a prisoner which they prefer, I have. Death is what the got and what they should get. The murdered someone and that is all they deserve.
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Post by lawrence on Mar 3, 2009 9:32:48 GMT -6
Tims im not totally against what you support, i am not comfortable with the DP in its present state as i see it not as a deterent but as a punishment and because of my distrust of the legal system i find it hard to support it. However i would gladly fry peados without a second thought and feel absolutely no remorse.
I have reasons why i do not support the DP as a whole but i am also of the belief that if a criminal know that the country they live in has the dp and knows the Staes they kill in have the dp and are caught, Tough luck. I couldnt care a less about them.
I dont like it when they are kept on death row for so long yet others in defferent states who dont have the Dp are freed earlier for exactly the same crime. Its sick and needs to be addressed.
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Post by Royd on Mar 3, 2009 9:49:14 GMT -6
The process takes time because the inmates on death row know how to play the legal system for all it is worth.
Take the "Talented Mr Penry" of Texas, he played the system like a virtuoso, and even had the cheek to moan when he was denied his burger when he received an 11th hour repreive.
The delays are not for the want of executing, delays are prisoner made.
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Post by D.E.E. on Mar 3, 2009 16:16:13 GMT -6
Tims im not totally against what you support, i am not comfortable with the DP in its present state as i see it not as a deterent but as a punishment and because of my distrust of the legal system i find it hard to support it. However i would gladly fry peados without a second thought and feel absolutely no remorse. I have reasons why i do not support the DP as a whole but i am also of the belief that if a criminal know that the country they live in has the dp and knows the Staes they kill in have the dp and are caught, Tough luck. I couldnt care a less about them. I dont like it when they are kept on death row for so long yet others in defferent states who dont have the Dp are freed earlier for exactly the same crime. Its sick and needs to be addressed. DP or no DP that would not change we are a country that believes each state ,makes the laws for that state as long as they are not federal laws.
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Post by mst3k4evur on Mar 3, 2009 21:23:17 GMT -6
Tims im not totally against what you support, i am not comfortable with the DP in its present state as i see it not as a deterent but as a punishment and because of my distrust of the legal system i find it hard to support it. However i would gladly fry peados without a second thought and feel absolutely no remorse. I have reasons why i do not support the DP as a whole but i am also of the belief that if a criminal know that the country they live in has the dp and knows the Staes they kill in have the dp and are caught, Tough luck. I couldnt care a less about them. I dont like it when they are kept on death row for so long yet others in defferent states who dont have the Dp are freed earlier for exactly the same crime. Its sick and needs to be addressed. DP or no DP that would not change we are a country that believes each state ,makes the laws for that state as long as they are not federal laws. Sadly, SCOTUS has eroded a lot of that independence. Roper v Simmons, Ring v Arizona and Kennedy v Louisiana was essentially SCOTUS saying the individual beliefs of the Justices was more important than any concept of Federalism.
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Post by Californian on Mar 3, 2009 22:11:36 GMT -6
My conclusion is that he seems to mean that life on death row is a harsher punishment than the dp. My conclusion is that he's not making that conclusion while strapped to a gurney with an IV running.
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Post by Stormyweather on Mar 3, 2009 23:33:39 GMT -6
" life on death row is paramount to torture " A minor inconveniance when compared to endless death that a victim endures. Besides, the criminal only has themselves to blame for their predicament. Please Royd use the whole qoute. Here is a former boss of the prison practically saying that being on death row for twenty thirty years is a worse punishment than the dp. In fact the only thing these people have to look forward to is death. Its brilliant! If we could punish them harsher not including the dp, would you support that?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2009 0:14:27 GMT -6
Every single scumpal on earth needs to watch the video of Junny Rios-Martinez's parents, if someone can watch that and still support these murdering monsters they are in need of some serious mental help. After seeing that video and then flipping over to PTO and seeing mark schwabs idiotic scumpal talk about him, referring to him as a nice guy, and defending his life is truly sickening. Like Junny's father said, "We dont even put our dogs down as peacefully as we do murderers", they feel no pain they go to sleep, just dont seem fair when you compare what they (as in DR inmates) have done to get to the gurney to begin with. Ill never understand why we should give a rats a** about their rights. Because theyre human??? Humans dont lure children to be raped and murdered, animals/predators do, so why do they deserve better than a dog? Some one should post the video on pto,maybe they might wake up to themselves,fat chance i reckon,to many rocks in there heads.
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Post by Tim S on Mar 4, 2009 0:59:49 GMT -6
There is an old saying, "if you can't stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen", the prison warden has obviously gone soft in the head, so should move on to lighter duties. BTW, long time no argue Long time no see!! Was in Rye in january. Climbed upp the church tower and saw where the wharehouse caught fire last year. If you HAD payed attention to the video it stated that he was the former warden. Did you get a rapport every term where the teachers wrote:" could do better" ?
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Post by D.E.E. on Mar 4, 2009 7:32:43 GMT -6
DP or no DP that would not change we are a country that believes each state ,makes the laws for that state as long as they are not federal laws. Sadly, SCOTUS has eroded a lot of that independence. Roper v Simmons, Ring v Arizona and Kennedy v Louisiana was essentially SCOTUS saying the individual beliefs of the Justices was more important than any concept of Federalism. Yes SCOTUS has but it has not and most likely will not try to change states by forcing a uniform code for sentencing criminals.
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Post by Royd on Mar 4, 2009 11:56:37 GMT -6
There is an old saying, "if you can't stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen", the prison warden has obviously gone soft in the head, so should move on to lighter duties. BTW, long time no argue Long time no see!! Was in Rye in january. Climbed upp the church tower and saw where the wharehouse caught fire last year. If you HAD payed attention to the video it stated that he was the former warden. Did you get a rapport every term where the teachers wrote:" could do better" ? The teacher had a problem with me, all they could write was "impossible to improve upon perfection", and that was when I used to be conceited before discovering I am perfect Seriously tho', Death Row is not supposed to be a holiday camp, so people complaining about the conditions is a bit silly. BTW, next time you visit drop me a line
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Post by somebody on Mar 4, 2009 18:06:01 GMT -6
" life on death row is paramount to torture " A minor inconveniance when compared to endless death that a victim endures. Besides, the criminal only has themselves to blame for their predicament. Please Royd use the whole qoute. Here is a former boss of the prison practically saying that being on death row for twenty thirty years is a worse punishment than the dp. In fact the only thing these people have to look forward to is death. Its brilliant! Saw it too. I thought it was a very good interview! I like this site because opinions and video's of pro's and anti's are there. It's objective.
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Mar 5, 2009 11:40:19 GMT -6
Regarding the holiday camps. We only do them here in UK
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2009 21:19:56 GMT -6
Regarding the holiday camps. We only do them here in UK & Australia to mate, unfortunantly !
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Post by Tracy on Mar 10, 2009 20:49:14 GMT -6
There is an old saying, "if you can't stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen", the prison warden has obviously gone soft in the head, so should move on to lighter duties. BTW, long time no argue Long time no see!! Was in Rye in january. Climbed upp the church tower and saw where the wharehouse caught fire last year. If you HAD payed attention to the video it stated that he was the former warden. Did you get a rapport every term where the teachers wrote:" could do better" ? Did you watch the video of the parents of the murdered boy? They trump that warden hands down, what he said had absolutely no effect after hearing those parents speak. Who cares about his opinion.
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