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Post by Guru on Nov 1, 2005 6:09:58 GMT -6
All,
Has there ever been a recorded case of a DR inamte murdering another DR inmate?
Guru.
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Post by RickZ on Nov 1, 2005 6:29:38 GMT -6
Guru, one that springs to mind is a murder that occurred in New Jersey. During recreation, which was as a group, one death row inmate stomped another one to death. That has been the only 'execution' in New Jersey since they placed the death penalty back on the books after 1976. There are quite a few other cases though, mostly from before death row became more of a super-max environment.
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Post by Guru on Nov 1, 2005 6:41:39 GMT -6
Guru, one that springs to mind is a murder that occurred in New Jersey. During recreation, which was as a group, one death row inmate stomped another one to death. That has been the only 'execution' in New Jersey since they placed the death penalty back on the books after 1976. There are quite a few other cases though, mostly from before death row became more of a super-max environment. RckZ, Cheers. It's an interesting situation then. The (DR) murderer as the victim - I did notice 'execution' in italics! It goes to show the huge variance in the circumstances of murders committed. This plays on my mind I have to admit. Thanks for your response. Guru.
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Post by Charlene on Nov 1, 2005 10:06:19 GMT -6
That would be a yes. I can't think of specifics now but definitely there have been. Also, people who went to death row because of murders committed in prison, not on death row. All, Has there ever been a recorded case of a DR inamte murdering another DR inmate? Guru.
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Post by Dave on Nov 1, 2005 12:42:14 GMT -6
If I'm not mistaken it was Meghan Kankas killer that got his brain stomped in sorry if I spelled her name wrong.
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Post by RickZ on Nov 1, 2005 12:58:03 GMT -6
If I'm not mistaken it was Meghan Kankas killer that got his brain stomped in sorry if I spelled her name wrong. Nope, it wasn't Timendequas. www.southjerseynews.com/neulander/m111702k.htmRobert "Mudman'' Simon was killed on death row in 1999 but it was another inmate, Ambrose Harris, who killed him. Simon was sentenced to death in 1996 for killing a Franklin Township police officer.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2005 23:12:44 GMT -6
Also, people who went to death row because of murders committed in prison, not on death row. I would assume there are more of these types of cases than cases where the murder was actually committed while on death row? When these monsters commit another murder in prison after being sent to prison for committing murder(s), just how the he11 are we, as a society, ever safe from their evil disregard for life unless we can sentence them to death....
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Post by hazel on Nov 2, 2005 4:28:38 GMT -6
John Blackwelder i believe his name to be was sentenced to life in prison. He killed a fellow inmate so he could be sentenced to death as he never wanted to spend the rest of his life behind bars. And he got his wish as hes been executed.
I guess he never thought about killing himself.
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Post by Elric of Melnibone on Nov 2, 2005 9:36:03 GMT -6
There have been correction officers killed in the line of duy, as well. Robert Pruitt, one of "Voices" posters, was in prison for 99 years, but he killed a officer. Tommy Silverstein, in levenworth, killed a corrections officer in a federal prison. Silverstein is unique. He is under "no human contact" for the murder and is filmed 24/7 and the lights do not go out.
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Post by Elric of Melnibone on Nov 2, 2005 9:36:59 GMT -6
Jeffery dahmer was killed in prison by another inmate, but Dahmer was not under a death sentence...
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Post by cynthiak on Nov 2, 2005 11:20:46 GMT -6
Jeffery dahmer was killed in prison by another inmate, but Dahmer was not under a death sentence... I was gonna ask about that one. Thanks
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Post by bryan on Nov 2, 2005 15:19:33 GMT -6
ah, when thinking about death sentence and murders in prison, i can think of many but three people really stick out in my head..James Harlow, on death row in Wyoming for murdering a guard during an escape attempt, he was in jail at the time for raping and murdering a child...the next person is Lemuel Smith, he was sentenced to death by the state of new york and his death sentence was later overturned for the rape and murder of a female guard, he was in jail for 3 other rape/murders at the time...and the last is Rigoberto Sanchez-Velasco, he was in prison for the rape and murder of an 11 y/o child, while on death row, he killed 3 other death row inmates, he was later executed in 2002
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Post by sweethonesty on Nov 4, 2005 11:51:39 GMT -6
www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/death/US/blackwelder911.htmRaymond D. Wigley and Blackwelder were both inmates at the Columbia Correctional Institution in Florida. Wigley was serving a life sentence for First Degree Murder. Blackwelder was serving a life sentence following a 1998 conviction for Child Molesting of a 10 year old. He had been convicted in 1975 and served time for Sexual Battery. Wigley went to Blackwelder's cell and asked for sex. Prior to the proposition, Blackwelder had hidden several pieces of cord around his bunk so he could restrain Wigley when the opportunity arose. Blackwelder consented to the proposition for sex and tied up Wigley after he had disrobed. Wigley allowed Blackwelder to bind his hands and feet to the bed and to tie a towel around his mouth. Blackwelder positioned himself on top of Wigley's back and strangled him with a piece of the cord that he had hidden near his bunk. Prior to his death, Wigley was strangled for nearly ten minutes while pleading for his life. Blackwelder then alerted prison authorities about the murder. Blackwelder pleaded guilty to first-degree murder, a jury unanimously recommended the death penalty, and the Judge sentence him in accordance with that verdict. Blackwelder was also convicted in 1991 on federal charges of threatening then Vice President Dan Quayle. He had called the Secret Service, Miami television stations and the TV series "America's Most Wanted," saying he would "eliminate" Quayle and "put him on slab" unless he received $10 million. Final Words: "I'm glad I get to go home. I'm proud to be a Christian, and I thank Jesus for saving me and allowing me to go home. Amen."You think this christian made it to heaven???
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Post by josephdphillips on Nov 4, 2005 12:14:11 GMT -6
You think this christian made it to heaven??? [/i] [/quote] Well, the god of Christians seems to communicate very well with those who bash their children's heads in with rocks, burn them, or otherwise propel their offspring to the hereafter. Perhaps we can prevail upon these pious moms to entreat St. Peter for a list of recent arrivals.
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Post by bigmama on Nov 4, 2005 13:54:05 GMT -6
You think this christian made it to heaven??? [/i] [/quote] Well, the god of Christians seems to communicate very well with those who bash their children's heads in with rocks, burn them, or otherwise propel their offspring to the hereafter. Perhaps we can prevail upon these pious moms to entreat St. Peter for a list of recent arrivals.[/quote]That's BS dear Joseph. God is not to blame for these freaks!
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Post by josephdphillips on Nov 4, 2005 15:12:17 GMT -6
Well, the god of Christians seems to communicate very well with those who bash their children's heads in with rocks, burn them, or otherwise propel their offspring to the hereafter. Perhaps we can prevail upon these pious moms to entreat St. Peter for a list of recent arrivals. That's BS dear Joseph. God is not to blame for these freaks! My statement was sarcastic, BigMama. The religious debates about capital punishment or about murderers is a source of entertainment for me. The religious kooks tried to spare Karla Faye Tucker's life, because she accepted their poster boy. Religious kooks on juries bend over backwards to spare the lives of females who kill their children, as long as these murderers claim to hear voices from the Almighty. Who has unequivocal proof these murdering moms are lying? It's all a big, sick joke to me. If god does exist, he's in on it.
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Post by spur on Nov 4, 2005 16:41:51 GMT -6
Joseph, I too am sickened by people standing behind "a" God to commit or lessen the punishment for their crimes.
The only statement I can make about this is....I know in my heart that "THE GOD" is not in on any of it.
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Post by josephdphillips on Nov 4, 2005 17:31:23 GMT -6
Joseph, I too am sickened by people standing behind "a" God to commit or lessen the punishment for their crimes. The only statement I can make about this is....I know in my heart that "THE GOD" is not in on any of it. I don't need religion to take a hard moral stand against murder, a stand I know you take, as well, Spur, even though you are religious. I'm just saying you don't need a Biblical view of the world or of the hereafter to see behavior as immoral. This compulsion to see murderers as human and somehow worth saving, all rational evidence to the contrary, seems to dwell within religious types more than within godless heathens like me. I just don't get it. Someone decides that someone else should die, absent any provocation, and elects to kill that person. My gut says I should nail that murderer and destroy it, with no more consideration for the murderer than a surgeon gives a malignant tumor before cutting it out. If that makes me uncivilized, so be it. Ooga booga. OK, enough of this genteel banter. I got a spray bottle with the prodeathpenalty.com logo on it, ready for distribution. And I got doves that need to fly. Who's on deck?
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Post by bigmama on Nov 4, 2005 17:31:49 GMT -6
Religious kooks on juries bend over backwards to spare the lives of females who kill their children, as long as these murderers claim to hear voices from the Almighty. I know it was sarcasm Joseph... I just couldn't let it pass. Religious freaks have no credibility with me either, but it's not extreme religious views that save these mothers who kill their kids in response to the alleged voice of God. You're painting jurors that become convinced of a woman's insanity as religious kooks and that's not fair.
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Post by tricky on Nov 5, 2005 16:00:02 GMT -6
John Blackwelder i believe his name to be was sentenced to life in prison. He killed a fellow inmate so he could be sentenced to death as he never wanted to spend the rest of his life behind bars. And he got his wish as hes been executed. I guess he never thought about killing himself. I am sure he did but but he didn't have the guts to do it instead he murdered another person so someone else could take his life. I have often wondered if some murderers murder people because they want to die but don't have to guts to just do it themselves.
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Post by krol on Nov 9, 2005 4:30:41 GMT -6
posted by: josephdphillips
You should go on Letterman with this routine.
You're very funny.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2005 15:30:29 GMT -6
Silverstein is unique. He is under "no human contact" for the murder and is filmed 24/7 and the lights do not go out. Now that is the way prison SHOULD be! That shouldn't be unique, that should be the norm.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2005 9:55:21 GMT -6
Here's another one--not committed on death row, but--committed while incarcerated: www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?id=1&display=rednews/2005/11/13/build/wyoming/94-murder-case.incMurder case goes to jury LANDER - The trial of a man accused of killing a prison nurse went to the jury after the defense rested its case without calling a witness. Prosecutors wrapped up their case against Floyd DeWayne Grady on Friday morning, and the defense - which had listed 90 potential witnesses it could call - quickly did the same. Grady, 30, faces the death penalty or life in prison with or without the possibility of parole if he is convicted of killing Tammy Watts, an infirmary nurse at the Wyoming Honor Farm outside Riverton, on April 15, 2004. Grady is charged with two counts of first-degree murder, attempted sexual assault and kidnapping.
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Post by johnbgraf on Nov 27, 2005 4:11:56 GMT -6
Your question is leading to a great idea!Just put all the convicted murderers in one cell.And the let the last one standing take one for the team.That would eliminate a whole lot of red tape,and we can get on with cleaning up our penal system.LOL
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Post by myamber20 on Dec 6, 2005 11:54:05 GMT -6
Jeffery dahmer was killed in prison by another inmate, but Dahmer was not under a death sentence... Only because the DEATH PENALTY is not in the state of Minnesota was it? ?
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Post by Elric of Melnibone on Dec 6, 2005 21:41:44 GMT -6
Not sure about that one...Dahmer could have been studied for a long time to see what made him tick...
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Post by myamber20 on Dec 7, 2005 7:34:23 GMT -6
Not sure about that one...Dahmer could have been studied for a long time to see what made him tick... yeah your probally right. You know it is two fold, I guess they want to know about the mind of a sicko for furure sickos. But then again, who would want to know.
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Post by blakely on Dec 7, 2005 8:17:05 GMT -6
Dahmer was imprisoned in Wisconsin. Blame Erick.
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Post by anna_marek on Dec 7, 2005 12:06:10 GMT -6
All, Has there ever been a recorded case of a DR inamte murdering another DR inmate? Guru. Hi Guru, Whether or not such murders occurred specially on death row is something i'd have to research more. www.prodeathpenalty.com/repeat_murder.htm10/2003 - Ohio Prison Inmate Gets Death Sentence In Strangling An Ohio prisoner convicted of strangling his cellmate will be executed. The prisoner, Timothy Hancock, 33, initially got a life sentence for the November 2000 slaying. However, Warren County prosecutors appealed to demand stiffer punishment, and a new sentencing was ordered. Hancock's death sentence will be automatically appealed to the Ohio Supreme Court, which is required in capital cases. Hancock was convicted two years ago of killing Jason Wagner, 25,of Lancaster. They shared a cell at Warren Correctional Institution near Lebanon. Hancock was serving a life term for a 1990 murder. °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°° 12/4/01 - Alabama Triple killer serving life without parole kills another inmate; finally gets death sentence A Holman Prison inmate found guilty in September of murdering a fellow inmate was sentenced to the electric chair in an Escambia County courtroom. Cuhuatemoc Hinricky Peraita, 25, of Rainbow City, Ala., who was serving life without parole for 3 murders in Gadsden, was found guilty of capital murder and of having committed a murder after being convicted of other murders within the past 20 years. Prosecutor Reo Kirkland convinced a jury that Peraita held fellow inmate Quincy Lewis down while another inmate, Michael Castillo, stabbed him with a prison-made knife. Kirkland said during the trial that Peraita played an important role in the death of Lewis by grabbing him around the neck, forcing him onto a bunk and holding him while Castillo stabbed him with a knife. According to Kirkland, testimony from a medical examiner showed that 2 different stab wounds would each have resulted in the death of Lewis. One of those wounds was to the chest, the other to the neck. Peraita's defense team argued self defense and that Peraita and Castillo had paid Lewis money to leave them alone. They said despite paying Lewis, he continued to threaten them and that Peraita had been slapped by Lewis not long before the murder. Peraita gets an automatic appeal due to the death sentence. Judge Brad Byrne handed down the death sentence. His alleged accomplice, Castillo, pled guilty to the lesser charge of manslaughter recently in exchange for a 20-year sentence. Judge Joe Brogden accepted the plea on Nov. 6. °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°° 3/22/00 Indicted in guard killing BEEVILLE -- A convicted killer already serving a life sentence was indicted Tuesday for capital murder in the death of prison guard Daniel Nagle. Robert Lynn Pruett, 20, could face the death penalty if found guilty of the Dec. 17 attack on Nagle, who was fatally stabbed with a sharpened rod while patrolling the Texas Department of Criminal Justice McConnell Unit near Beeville in South Texas. It was the first fatal attack on a Texas corrections officer since guard Minnie Houston was stabbed to death in 1984 by an inmate at the Ellis Unit near Huntsville, a prison official said. Pruett, from Channelview, was serving a life term for a murder committed when he was 15, according to prison records. Nagle had been president of the Beeville chapter of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, which represents corrections officers. Nagle is survived by his wife, a former corrections officer at McConnell, and three young children.
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Post by Rhonda on Dec 7, 2005 13:04:47 GMT -6
I say murderers with murderers, rapists with rapists so forth. SEGREGATE THEM BY CRIMES!!! if a murderer knew he;d be sharing a cell or prison with another murderer as cold blooded as he was at the time of his crime, he'd *deleted* his pants or kill again and take one for the team!
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