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Post by Stormyweather on Jul 11, 2007 16:10:18 GMT -6
From visitors to attorneys to clergy Elijah Page can talk with many people before he is executed. Page has been meeting with family and friends throughout the week including his dad, sisters, ex-girlfriend, and three friends from Texas. But as of four o'clock Wednesday, six hours before the scheduled execution, all communication with those people was cut off and the only people who can talk with Page are his attorney and any clergy members. Page was sentenced to die for his crime more than six years ago, and for the past two days he's been sitting in a private holding cell near the execution chamber preparing to accept that sentence. Page eats his last meal at six o'clock Wednesday night. And while he can't meet with his family during that time he can continue meeting with his attorney until nine o'clock ,or one hour before the execution. During that time Page and his attorney can exchange papers and talk with one another under the supervision of penitentary staff. Clergy can also visit with Page up until the final hour before his execution. And at that point, Page will spend his last hour alive by himself waiting to die for a crime he committed seven years ago. Then at ten o'clock Wednesday night Page will be moved from his private holding cell to the execution chamber to die. Even though clergy cannot visit with Page in the final hour before the execution, Page can request that a clergy member witness his death in the same room as all of the other witnesses. www.keloland.com/NewsDetail6162.cfm?Id=0,58716
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Post by Rev. Agave on Jul 11, 2007 16:21:51 GMT -6
I have a feeling there will be a lot of hungover people calling in sick tomorrow in South Dakota. This is certainly one that is long overdue.
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Post by Stormyweather on Jul 11, 2007 16:25:55 GMT -6
Everytime I see articles that tell us how nice the murderer is I feel a little ill. I do have sympathy for his father to an extent. Not enough for the execution to stop.Father: Elijah Page Is RemorsefulAs horrible and unimaginable - the details of Elijah Page's murder of Chester Allan Poage - there are people who love Page. This afternoon I sat down with Page's father, who has visited him every day for the past week. He says Page is remorseful. "He wants everybody to know he feels bad for what happened. He's not a cold-hearted person like they're making him out to be," Kenneth Chapman said. Kenneth Chapman of Texas, father of condemned man Elijah Page, says their visits the past week have been positive. "Old times. Things we used to do, people we used to be with. You know, things like that. Family. Things he's missed. Things we've missed of him," Chapman said. Chapman didn't even know he had a son until Page was 13 years old. Page was raised by his mother and stepfather who cruely abused him. Something Chapman believes could have contributed to creating someone capable of murder. "I can understand if a person beaten and abused the way he was his whole life. Shoved into one foster home and out the other, certainly it's going to cross their views of right and wrong and all that," Chapman said. But Chapman says Page is a caring person. He lights up when he looks through the protective glass to see his one-year-old sister Keely Elijah Chapman. But when it comes to talking Page out of dying, Chapman says there isn't much to the conversation. Lou Raguse: Have you asked him not to go through with it? Chapman: Many times. Every one of us. Every one of us has begged him not to go through with it. 54 But he's set in his mind to do what he has to do. Page voluntarily gave up his appeals, something Chapman thinks is worth noting. "I'm not asking them to feel sorry for my son. My son's man enough to stand up for what he done. And there's very few in this world that does that. But he was honorable enough to stand up and pay the piper for what he did. I wish someone would look at that," Chapman said. Chapman wants everyone to know his son is sorry for torturing and killing Chester Allan Poage. He extends sympathy to Poage's mother. "She can forgive him? Just a little? That's all he wants," Chapman said. And, if nothing else, Chapman wants everyone to know the man sentenced to die for torturous killing, has people in his life who care. Raguse: Do you love him? Chapman: I love him with all my heart. Have you told him that? Many times. Every day I talk to my baby, I tell him I love him. www.keloland.com/NewsDetail6162.cfm?Id=0,58721
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2007 17:46:00 GMT -6
Very sweet, now execute him.
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Post by rayozz on Jul 11, 2007 20:11:41 GMT -6
A good last meal:
He ordered the following, which he is scheduled to eat at 6 p.m.: Steak; A-1 Steak Sauce; jalapeno poppers with cream sauce; onion rings; salad with cherry tomatoes, ham chunks, shredded cheese, bacon bits and blue cheese and ranch dressing.
Last year he had pork chops, couldn't have been too good!
Ray
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Post by Kay on Jul 11, 2007 20:26:10 GMT -6
Why Elijah Page Should Die Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 by Todd Epp in Death Penalty | 6 Comments Bleeding heart liberal Democrat that I am, I think the State of South Dakota should execute Elijah Page tomorrow night. Surprised? I don’t think you should be. Just because I’m a liberal doesn’t mean I don’t believe in personal responsibility or in the protection of society. So, here are my reasons why the state should execute Page. Page committed a heinous act. He just didn’t kill someone, he tortured and maimed before he killed Chester Allen Poage. That is depraved and emblematic of a person who has no human feelings. Page wants to die. Even he understands what he did is wrong and understands that his death, while not evening the scales of justice, is atonement for his crime. Page confessed and received a fair trial. He has ended his appeals of his own free will. He can still stop the execution if he wants. Killing Page protects society. If Page should ever escape, he could kill again. Look at the last guy South Dakota executed—George Sitts. He killed while serving a life sentence then went on to kill again. But not after South Dakota’s Old Sparky got through with him 60 years ago. Let’s face it: South Dakota does not believe in rehabilitation of its prisoners. Let’s not make a pretense that the state will make any meaningful attempt to rehabilitate Page. Critics who say life in a cell is worse than death are wrong. Normal people want to live. As a lifer, Page would be at the top of inmate hierarchy at Penalty Hill. On the other hand, dead is dead. It is wrong to take a life. No, under certain circumstances, it isn’t just not wrong, it’s necessary. Wars are sometimes necessary to protect our freedoms. Self defense—even to kill in self defense—is sometimes necessary. Abortion is sometimes necessary. Letting a beloved family member die who has no hope of recovery and who is in horrible pain is sometimes necessary. So, there are all sorts of exceptions to “Thou shalt not kill.” Everyone’s life is sacred. No, most everyone’s life is sacred. Some people, by their acts, have forfeited their “sacredness.” Hitler sacrificed his. So did Stalin. So did Ted Bundy. So did Page. It is not for us to judge. Sure it is. We judge people all the time. If not, society wouldn’t function and we’d live in a criminalized chaos. God or Buddha or Jesus or the Great Spirit or the Big Whatever can decide on the worthiness of Page to enter the next realm—if there is on. I like to think that Page will be reincarnated as a maggot or something and start to work his way up the Karmaic ladder for another try. He blew it this time around. South Dakota has not applied the death penalty in a racially discriminatory manner. Home-grown white boys have been sentenced to die, not Blacks, Native Americans, or other minorities. But Page had a bad childhood. So did lots of people. They didn’t turn out to be killers. I will sleep better Wednesday night knowing that Page can’t harm anyone ever again. Will executing Page deter other murders? Probably not. But no matter. He deserves to pay the ultimate price for what he did to his innocent victim, Chester Allen Poage. It is Poage, not Page, who we should be remembering tomorrow. And this is one liberal Democrat who isn’t afraid to say so. thunewatch.squarespace.com/sdwatch/2007/7/10/why-elijah-page-should-die.html
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Post by Rev. Agave on Jul 11, 2007 20:49:30 GMT -6
He's probably strapped to the gurney right now waiting to die
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Post by Kay on Jul 11, 2007 20:51:43 GMT -6
He's probably strapped to the gurney right now waiting to die Well Agave, that's what he wanted, to die.
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Post by vasco on Jul 11, 2007 20:52:16 GMT -6
I have a feeling there will be a lot of hungover people calling in sick tomorrow in South Dakota. This is certainly one that is long overdue. I have a feeling you ought to put your morbid sorry azz down for a couple of days to contemplate how the he11 it's possible and admitted for a person to make such a sh!tload of twisted, sick and dehumanizing statements for such a long period of time and still getting deemed as intellectually and emotionally competent to have a somewhat front seat position on a board dealing with such vulnerable subjects and matters concerning life and/or death. No wonder the member rate is falling. Get real FFS, especially since you're able to once in a while.
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Post by Rev. Agave on Jul 11, 2007 21:03:51 GMT -6
I have a feeling there will be a lot of hungover people calling in sick tomorrow in South Dakota. This is certainly one that is long overdue. I have a feeling you ought to put your morbid sorry azz down for a couple of days to contemplate how the he11 it's possible and admitted for a person to make such a sh!tload of twisted, sick and dehumanizing statements for such a long period of time and still getting deemed as intellectually and emotionally competent to have a somewhat front seat position on a board dealing with such vulnerable subjects and matters concerning life and/or death. No wonder the member rate is falling. Get real FFS, especially since you're able to once in a while. LOL! Do you really think anyone here deems me intellectually competent?
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Post by Lisa on Jul 11, 2007 21:04:27 GMT -6
I have a feeling there will be a lot of hungover people calling in sick tomorrow in South Dakota. This is certainly one that is long overdue. I have a feeling you ought to put your morbid sorry azz down for a couple of days to contemplate how the he11 it's possible and admitted for a person to make such a sh!tload of twisted, sick and dehumanizing statements for such a long period of time and still getting deemed as intellectually and emotionally competent to have a somewhat front seat position on a board dealing with such vulnerable subjects and matters concerning life and/or death. No wonder the member rate is falling. Get real FFS, especially since you're able to once in a while. It's odd how so many of you ramble on about the twisted, sick and dehumanizing statements of some on this board and you never once mention the twisted, sick and dehumanizing ACTIONS of murderers. Why is that?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2007 21:05:22 GMT -6
Protesters confront each other; shouts, insults hurledargusleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070711/NEWS/70711063/0/SPECIALSJust an article I ran across in the Argus Leader.... Agaveman, I found a few lines in the article amusing....are you sure you aren't in Sioux Falls? ;D A face-to-face confrontation sparked when a death penalty supporter walked among those who oppose it later turned into shouts across the orange metal barricades separating the two sides. The death penalty supporter was asked by officials first to not cross back among death penalty opponents and later told to remain behind the barricade. But from across the width of a street, the supporter and Kevin Brower of Sioux Falls shouted their disagreements. "Take the sign down, you've got the wrong message," Brower hollered across the street. "You gotta read the whole Bible," the unidentified man said.He would not give his name, he said, because he printed fliers with Bible verses he said support the death penalty at work and he doesn't want his employer to know. He carried signs on cardboard that had slogans such as "Let's bring back the electric chair" and "Let's fry the S.O.B. Get them smoking."Most of the death penalty opponents returned the fliers, printed on blue and red paper, when they realized what the papers said. Charlotte Gadsden of Sioux Falls also confronted the unidentified man. "People take the word of God out of context," she said. Rising from her chair, she continued, "I got to get up for this. You will be punished for that." Referring to Elijah Page, she added, "We should be praying for that man's soul. We do not have the right to take somebody's life." Death penalty opponents outnumber supporters by about six to one currently.
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Post by Stormyweather on Jul 11, 2007 21:15:37 GMT -6
I have a feeling there will be a lot of hungover people calling in sick tomorrow in South Dakota. This is certainly one that is long overdue. I have a feeling you ought to put your morbid sorry azz down for a couple of days to contemplate how the he11 it's possible and admitted for a person to make such a sh!tload of twisted, sick and dehumanizing statements for such a long period of time and still getting deemed as intellectually and emotionally competent to have a somewhat front seat position on a board dealing with such vulnerable subjects and matters concerning life and/or death. No wonder the member rate is falling. Get real FFS, especially since you're able to once in a while. What's worse Agave's statement or Page's crime?
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Post by hoyadestroya85 on Jul 11, 2007 21:21:57 GMT -6
what a scumpal
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Post by Bull on Jul 11, 2007 21:35:01 GMT -6
I have a feeling you ought to put your morbid sorry azz down for a couple of days to contemplate how the he11 it's possible and admitted for a person to make such a sh!tload of twisted, sick and dehumanizing statements for such a long period of time and still getting deemed as intellectually and emotionally competent to have a somewhat front seat position on a board dealing with such vulnerable subjects and matters concerning life and/or death. No wonder the member rate is falling. Get real FFS, especially since you're able to once in a while. What's worse Agave's statement or Page's crime? ummmmmm.... really Stormy? you really asking THIS question? you think Vasco is that daft?.... How come the only ppl truly offended by Agave's remarks seem to be the lurkers that come out just in time to show their 'horror' at Agave's 'insensitivity'? How can someone really give a shyt about a POS that tortured, humiliated and finally killed another human being. Agave is showing his support for a worthless POS being removed from society, don't give us any of this 'he volunteered' holier than tho shyte. In the future lets get in on the discussion a little sooner than the night of the execution there Vasco.
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Post by arkansasboy2007 on Jul 11, 2007 21:58:30 GMT -6
What's worse Agave's statement or Page's crime? ummmmmm.... really Stormy? you really asking THIS question? you think Vasco is that daft?.... How come the only ppl truly offended by Agave's remarks seem to be the lurkers that come out just in time to show their 'horror' at Agave's 'insensitivity'? How can someone really give a shyt about a POS that tortured, humiliated and finally killed another human being. Agave is showing his support for a worthless POS being removed from society, don't give us any of this 'he volunteered' holier than tho shyte. In the future lets get in on the discussion a little sooner than the night of the execution there Vasco. Ouch!
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Post by rosebud on Jul 12, 2007 0:56:03 GMT -6
Protesters confront each other; shouts, insults hurledargusleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070711/NEWS/70711063/0/SPECIALSJust an article I ran across in the Argus Leader.... Agaveman, I found a few lines in the article amusing....are you sure you aren't in Sioux Falls? ;D A face-to-face confrontation sparked when a death penalty supporter walked among those who oppose it later turned into shouts across the orange metal barricades separating the two sides. The death penalty supporter was asked by officials first to not cross back among death penalty opponents and later told to remain behind the barricade. But from across the width of a street, the supporter and Kevin Brower of Sioux Falls shouted their disagreements. "Take the sign down, you've got the wrong message," Brower hollered across the street. "You gotta read the whole Bible," the unidentified man said.He would not give his name, he said, because he printed fliers with Bible verses he said support the death penalty at work and he doesn't want his employer to know. He carried signs on cardboard that had slogans such as "Let's bring back the electric chair" and "Let's fry the S.O.B. Get them smoking."Most of the death penalty opponents returned the fliers, printed on blue and red paper, when they realized what the papers said. Charlotte Gadsden of Sioux Falls also confronted the unidentified man. "People take the word of God out of context," she said. Rising from her chair, she continued, "I got to get up for this. You will be punished for that." Referring to Elijah Page, she added, "We should be praying for that man's soul. We do not have the right to take somebody's life." Death penalty opponents outnumber supporters by about six to one currently. "We do not have the right to take someones life", maybe Mr Page should have thought of that in the first place. NO sympathy from me I am afraid, even though he had a bad childhood (sob sob). But, I am glad he actually decided to drop his appeals, it's a shame the rest do not do that.
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Post by RickZ on Jul 12, 2007 8:14:33 GMT -6
I have a feeling there will be a lot of hungover people calling in sick tomorrow in South Dakota. This is certainly one that is long overdue. I have a feeling you ought to put your morbid sorry azz down for a couple of days to contemplate how the he11 it's possible and admitted for a person to make such a sh!tload of twisted, sick and dehumanizing statements for such a long period of time and still getting deemed as intellectually and emotionally competent to have a somewhat front seat position on a board dealing with such vulnerable subjects and matters concerning life and/or death. No wonder the member rate is falling. Get real FFS, especially since you're able to once in a while. That's cute. Take a swipe at Agave for ridiculing and making fun of condemned murderers, but give the murderers a pass. To earn death penalty 'honors' in this country, one must do more than just kill in a premeditated manner (as an example, we rarely execute today hit men like Gravano or Kuklinski); there are elements of depravity as well, of killing in a cruel and horrible manner. Have you ever read what these condemned murderers have done to their victims (and I have read some anti's, usually of the scum pal variety, who gleefully proclaim that what these murderers did is irrelevant and not worth knowing)? How they played judge, jury, and executioner coupled with maiming and torturing their victims? Throughout history, there has always been vicious murderers, vicious murderers who, once found out, suffered a much worse fate then than we now employ today with the 'c*cktail for one' method. You disparage someone who ridicules, rightly, such people. For what reason? Because the murderers are people, too? How far we've sunk when we can no longer identify and name evil, much less be able to ridicule it.
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Post by vasco on Jul 13, 2007 16:44:55 GMT -6
I have a feeling you ought to put your morbid sorry azz down for a couple of days to contemplate how the he11 it's possible and admitted for a person to make such a sh!tload of twisted, sick and dehumanizing statements for such a long period of time and still getting deemed as intellectually and emotionally competent to have a somewhat front seat position on a board dealing with such vulnerable subjects and matters concerning life and/or death. No wonder the member rate is falling. Get real FFS, especially since you're able to once in a while. What's worse Agave's statement or Page's crime? You can't be serious. Point missed.
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Post by vasco on Jul 13, 2007 16:48:49 GMT -6
I have a feeling you ought to put your morbid sorry azz down for a couple of days to contemplate how the he11 it's possible and admitted for a person to make such a sh!tload of twisted, sick and dehumanizing statements for such a long period of time and still getting deemed as intellectually and emotionally competent to have a somewhat front seat position on a board dealing with such vulnerable subjects and matters concerning life and/or death. No wonder the member rate is falling. Get real FFS, especially since you're able to once in a while. It's odd how so many of you ramble on about the twisted, sick and dehumanizing statements of some on this board and you never once mention the twisted, sick and dehumanizing ACTIONS of murderers. Why is that? Because every sentiment isn't needed to be put into w-o-r-d-s. But you n-e-e-d the words, don't you, to know for sure?
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Post by vasco on Jul 13, 2007 16:54:13 GMT -6
I have a feeling you ought to put your morbid sorry azz down for a couple of days to contemplate how the he11 it's possible and admitted for a person to make such a sh!tload of twisted, sick and dehumanizing statements for such a long period of time and still getting deemed as intellectually and emotionally competent to have a somewhat front seat position on a board dealing with such vulnerable subjects and matters concerning life and/or death. No wonder the member rate is falling. Get real FFS, especially since you're able to once in a while. LOL! Do you really think anyone here deems me intellectually competent? Actually, yes. Some of your posts are really prepared and interesting. The thing about choreography at an execution was tasteless, but I couldn't help myself laughing at that time. Skip the extremist BS though, for your own good, and if you're interested in more serious DP members on this board, eh?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2007 16:59:40 GMT -6
If you care to check and see why the number of members is falling it is because we actually delete accounts that are inactive. If we didn't do this the number of members on the board would be well into the thousands. prodp.proboards47.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=bb&thread=1183734454I have a feeling there will be a lot of hungover people calling in sick tomorrow in South Dakota. This is certainly one that is long overdue. No wonder the member rate is falling.
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Post by Stormyweather on Jul 13, 2007 17:36:25 GMT -6
What's worse Agave's statement or Page's crime? ummmmmm.... really Stormy? you really asking THIS question? you think Vasco is that daft?.... How come the only ppl truly offended by Agave's remarks seem to be the lurkers that come out just in time to show their 'horror' at Agave's 'insensitivity'? How can someone really give a shyt about a POS that tortured, humiliated and finally killed another human being. Agave is showing his support for a worthless POS being removed from society, don't give us any of this 'he volunteered' holier than tho shyte. In the future lets get in on the discussion a little sooner than the night of the execution there Vasco. How do you know Vasco really isn't that daft? To rebuke Agave for saying hungover because a vicious killer is being executed and not saying a word regarding what Page is, can't be all too bright?!!!!!JMO
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Post by Stormyweather on Jul 13, 2007 17:38:51 GMT -6
What's worse Agave's statement or Page's crime? You can't be serious. Point missed. Yes, I was serious and I'm not surprised you missed the point. You can only mention Agave's remark about being hungover and not mention a thing about what Page did and be appalled, misses a whole lot about what evil is.
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Post by vasco on Jul 13, 2007 18:04:18 GMT -6
You can't be serious. Point missed. Yes, I was serious and I'm not surprised you missed the point. You can only mention Agave's remark about being hungover and not mention a thing about what Page did and be appalled, misses a whole lot about what evil is. Totally ridiculous. This guy's crime was so awful I had problems reading the whole story about it. It is possible he chose to end his appeals because he was so totally aware and ashamed of what he'd done. Kind of surprising he had nothing to say though at his last moment. Take my remark for what it was and stop defending each other like a pathetic hermetic gathering of people so extremely convinced of the righteousness of your stance.
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Post by Lisa on Jul 13, 2007 19:02:44 GMT -6
Yes, I was serious and I'm not surprised you missed the point. You can only mention Agave's remark about being hungover and not mention a thing about what Page did and be appalled, misses a whole lot about what evil is. Totally ridiculous. This guy's crime was so awful I had problems reading the whole story about it. It is possible he chose to end his appeals because he was so totally aware and ashamed of what he'd done. Kind of surprising he had nothing to say though at his last moment. Take my remark for what it was and stop defending each other like a pathetic hermetic gathering of people so extremely convinced of the righteousness of your stance. OMG, it just occurred to me. We ARE a hermetic gathering of people convinced of the righteousness of our stance. I can't thank you enough for opening my eyes.
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Post by Stormyweather on Jul 13, 2007 19:29:50 GMT -6
Take my remark for what it was and stop defending each other like a pathetic hermetic gathering of people so extremely convinced of the righteousness of your stance. I can defend whomever I feel like here.
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Post by Stormyweather on Jul 13, 2007 19:32:43 GMT -6
Totally ridiculous. This guy's crime was so awful I had problems reading the whole story about it. It is possible he chose to end his appeals because he was so totally aware and ashamed of what he'd done. Kind of surprising he had nothing to say though at his last moment. Take my remark for what it was and stop defending each other like a pathetic hermetic gathering of people so extremely convinced of the righteousness of your stance. OMG, it just occurred to me. We ARE a hermetic gathering of people convinced of the righteousness of our stance. I can't thank you enough for opening my eyes. Hello fellow hermetic righteous person. Meetings have been changed to the third Tuesday of every month.
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Post by Lisa on Jul 13, 2007 19:43:33 GMT -6
OMG, it just occurred to me. We ARE a hermetic gathering of people convinced of the righteousness of our stance. I can't thank you enough for opening my eyes. Hello fellow hermetic righteous person. Meetings have been changed to the third Tuesday of every month. Start the coffee if you get there first.
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Post by Lotus Flower on Jul 14, 2007 9:32:12 GMT -6
Hello fellow hermetic righteous person. Meetings have been changed to the third Tuesday of every month. Start the coffee if you get there first. Note: Check email for updated calendar.
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