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Post by Donnie on Feb 26, 2016 11:49:45 GMT -6
The word "exonerated" excludes any concern about guilt or innocence. Many murderers who were exonerated were clearly guilty For a pardon, acquittal, or dismissal to count as an exoneration, it must have been the result, at least in part, of evidence of innocence. www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/glossary.aspx Nice definition, but it is seldom, if ever, used.
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Post by bernard on Feb 26, 2016 20:39:00 GMT -6
Nice definition, but it is seldom, if ever, used. That's right. It is only used when people are being careful to speak clearly and correctly.
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Post by Donnie on Feb 29, 2016 14:09:31 GMT -6
Nice definition, but it is seldom, if ever, used. That's right. It is only used when people are being careful to speak clearly and correctly. Which anti-DP advocates seldom do
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Post by bernard on Mar 1, 2016 15:34:18 GMT -6
That's right. It is only used when people are being careful to speak clearly and correctly. Which anti-DP advocates seldom do I'd rather not join you in generalizing over a large class of people most of whom you have never met. Let's just agree that you and white diamonds, in this instance, were confusing yourselves by using terms incorrectly.
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nate
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momento mori.
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Post by nate on Mar 2, 2016 12:17:44 GMT -6
I often wonder about the soul or mind of a person who is chosen or is picked to be executioner...I am certain some would regret it and some would work it out in their mind.
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Post by Donnie on Mar 2, 2016 12:36:10 GMT -6
Which anti-DP advocates seldom do I'd rather not join you in generalizing over a large class of people most of whom you have never met. Let's just agree that you and white diamonds, in this instance, were confusing yourselves by using terms incorrectly. I have not met most, but I have met and known enough. Also, I have even read their admissions of intentional dishonesty and seen the written examples of their dishonest use of "innocence" and "exoneration."
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Post by bernard on Mar 3, 2016 13:14:50 GMT -6
I'd rather not join you in generalizing over a large class of people most of whom you have never met. Let's just agree that you and white diamonds, in this instance, were confusing yourselves by using terms incorrectly. I have not met most, but I have met and known enough. Also, I have even read their admissions of intentional dishonesty and seen the written examples of their dishonest use of "innocence" and "exoneration." Could you quote me an admission of intentional dishonesty? I am curious.
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Post by Donnie on Mar 7, 2016 6:29:07 GMT -6
Could you quote me an admission of intentional dishonesty? I am curious. The following is a direct quote from October 2011 issue of The Progressive magazine, Page 28, top of the middle column: I talked to one anti-death penalty person - a writer and former prisoner - who argued that the first step in stopping state-sponsored executions is life without the possibility of parole. He felt that without this, ending the death penalty would be a harder hill to climb. "This was always a strategy, not a principle," he said.Also on page 29, near the bottom of the first column, there is a discussion of an address by US Supreme Court Justice Kennedy that indicates that he is being intentionally dishonest every time that he fails to recuse himself from a case involving the death penalty or life without parole.
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Post by bernard on Mar 8, 2016 15:44:09 GMT -6
Could you quote me an admission of intentional dishonesty? I am curious. The following is a direct quote from October 2011 issue of The Progressive magazine, Page 28, top of the middle column: I talked to one anti-death penalty person - a writer and former prisoner - who argued that the first step in stopping state-sponsored executions is life without the possibility of parole. He felt that without this, ending the death penalty would be a harder hill to climb. "This was always a strategy, not a principle," he said.Also on page 29, near the bottom of the first column, there is a discussion of an address by US Supreme Court Justice Kennedy that indicates that he is being intentionally dishonest every time that he fails to recuse himself from a case involving the death penalty or life without parole. I admit you have found a good example. I don't suppose you could provide me with the Kennedy quote as well? I'd be appreciative.
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