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Post by rayozz on Dec 18, 2013 1:14:02 GMT -6
I mentioned in the "Execution Forum" that there were 39 executions in 2013.
This number has been gradually falling with 52 (2009), 46 (2010), 43 (2011-12) and 39 (2013).
There are already 20+ scheduled for 2014, but some are Pennsylvania which will not happen. I think the LI issue will keep the numbers low. Then again, California may get its act together.
Any thoughts?
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Post by Woody on Dec 18, 2013 11:26:14 GMT -6
I mentioned in the "Execution Forum" that there were 39 executions in 2013. This number has been gradually falling with 52 (2009), 46 (2010), 43 (2011-12) and 39 (2013). There are already 20+ scheduled for 2014, but some are Pennsylvania which will not happen. I think the LI issue will keep the numbers low. Then again, California may get its act together. Any thoughts? 25(2014), 15(2015), 7(2016)...Zero(2020). Good.
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Post by whitediamonds on Dec 18, 2013 12:30:46 GMT -6
I mentioned in the "Execution Forum" that there were 39 executions in 2013. This number has been gradually falling with 52 (2009), 46 (2010), 43 (2011-12) and 39 (2013). There are already 20+ scheduled for 2014, but some are Pennsylvania which will not happen. I think the LI issue will keep the numbers low. Then again, California may get its act together. Any thoughts? 25(2014), 15(2015), 7(2016)...Zero(2020). Good. Who knows by the yr 2020, what will happen globally, let alone worry about saving murderers....
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Post by starbux on Dec 21, 2013 13:43:38 GMT -6
Yeah we might have a low year but like the stock market it will rise again. Once all appeals are over for the slime that is rotting away in their filth we will kill them in a big wave.
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Post by Potassium_Pixie on Dec 23, 2013 2:24:57 GMT -6
25(2014), 15(2015), 7(2016)...Zero(2020). Good. [/quote] Only in your dreams. What will it take for the states to start executing and the EU Pee-Yew to get their heads out of their *%#*@*? Another Charles Manson?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2014 18:54:04 GMT -6
Heck, I'm all for it! Just as long as the murder rate drops proportionally to zero over that same period. I mentioned in the "Execution Forum" that there were 39 executions in 2013. This number has been gradually falling with 52 (2009), 46 (2010), 43 (2011-12) and 39 (2013). There are already 20+ scheduled for 2014, but some are Pennsylvania which will not happen. I think the LI issue will keep the numbers low. Then again, California may get its act together. Any thoughts? 25(2014), 15(2015), 7(2016)...Zero(2020). Good.
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Post by fuglyville on Jan 12, 2014 18:26:26 GMT -6
Heck, I'm all for it! Just as long as the murder rate drops proportionally to zero over that same period. 25(2014), 15(2015), 7(2016)...Zero(2020). Good. The murder rate has nothing to do with the rate of executions - the murder rate of the U.S. compared to countries without the death penalty should be enough to crush the deterrence argument. And when that fails, what's left?
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Post by ltdc on Jan 13, 2014 12:27:54 GMT -6
Heck, I'm all for it! Just as long as the murder rate drops proportionally to zero over that same period. The murder rate has nothing to do with the rate of executions - the murder rate of the U.S. compared to countries without the death penalty should be enough to crush the deterrence argument. And when that fails, what's left? ted bundy's murder rate seemed to take a nose dive, as did gacy's, gilmore's, and many many more? are there really people that still think execution is suppossed to deter others? speed limits, stop signs, laws against theft and such don't deter others so what's the deal here? explain that.
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Post by Californian on Jan 13, 2014 13:39:03 GMT -6
ted bundy's murder rate seemed to take a nose dive, as did gacy's, gilmore's, and many many more? are there really people that still think execution is suppossed to deter others? speed limits, stop signs, laws against theft and such don't deter others so what's the deal here? explain that. Wouldn't executing someone so they couldn't commit any more murders be a pretty good example of "deterrence?" The gentlemen you mentioned above have certainly been "deterred" from committing further crimes. We all know the DP deters some murders, it's just impossible to quantify. Whatever it is, we're happy with it.
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Post by ltdc on Jan 13, 2014 16:12:03 GMT -6
ted bundy's murder rate seemed to take a nose dive, as did gacy's, gilmore's, and many many more? are there really people that still think execution is suppossed to deter others? speed limits, stop signs, laws against theft and such don't deter others so what's the deal here? explain that. Wouldn't executing someone so they couldn't commit any more murders be a pretty good example of "deterrence?" The gentlemen you mentioned above have certainly been "deterred" from committing further crimes. We all know the DP deters some murders, it's just impossible to quantify. Whatever it is, we're happy with it. it's precisely because "they" cannot argue the 100% effective deterrance of executed murderers that they go with deterring others. they have nothing else.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jan 13, 2014 19:25:54 GMT -6
The murder rate has nothing to do with the rate of executions - the murder rate of the U.S. compared to countries without the death penalty should be enough to crush the deterrence argument. And when that fails, what's left? ted bundy's murder rate seemed to take a nose dive, as did gacy's, gilmore's, and many many more? are there really people that still think execution is suppossed to deter others? speed limits, stop signs, laws against theft and such don't deter others so what's the deal here? explain that. Exactly, nothing will deter some from murdering too, those are the ones who should be execute & reason we do. .
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Post by charon on Jan 13, 2014 22:07:58 GMT -6
I mentioned in the "Execution Forum" that there were 39 executions in 2013. This number has been gradually falling with 52 (2009), 46 (2010), 43 (2011-12) and 39 (2013). There are already 20+ scheduled for 2014, but some are Pennsylvania which will not happen. I think the LI issue will keep the numbers low. Then again, California may get its act together. Any thoughts? 25(2014), 15(2015), 7(2016)...Zero(2020). Good. 250 posts (2013) 0 posts (2014) Good!
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Post by rayozz on Jan 31, 2014 5:59:06 GMT -6
Six executions for January 2014, only one last year. States seem to be getting through these LI issues.
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Post by Breka on Feb 4, 2014 11:35:44 GMT -6
I think the numbers will decrease because of the discussion of humanity of L.I. - Even I do not understand it at all - I received 4 years ago a major surgery - which lasted several hours - I was put asleep in no time - and woke up 7 hours later - and have not felt anything . So I do not understand the fuzz about that at all - I just can t believe - that after a good anaesthetic anything can be felt - there might me reactions of the body - but the brain won t notice it . (Unless carried out in a professional way)
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Post by josephdphillips on Feb 4, 2014 12:11:34 GMT -6
I mentioned in the "Execution Forum" that there were 39 executions in 2013. This number has been gradually falling with 52 (2009), 46 (2010), 43 (2011-12) and 39 (2013). There are already 20+ scheduled for 2014, but some are Pennsylvania which will not happen. I think the LI issue will keep the numbers low. Then again, California may get its act together. Any thoughts? You can scratch California. Forever.
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Post by josephdphillips on Feb 4, 2014 12:19:14 GMT -6
I think the numbers will decrease because of the discussion of humanity of L.I. - Even I do not understand it at all - I received 4 years ago a major surgery - which lasted several hours - I was put asleep in no time - and woke up 7 hours later - and have not felt anything . So I do not understand the fuzz about that at all - I just can t believe - that after a good anaesthetic anything can be felt - there might me reactions of the body - but the brain won t notice it . (Unless carried out in a professional way) There's a big difference between putting you to sleep with the intention of waking you up, and putting you to sleep with the intention of killing you. From your perspective, there is nothing humane about the latter. The "humanity" approach to executing the condemned is untenable. If you're killing someone, justified or not, you are taking away his humanity, not preserving or improving it. What is really happening here is a desire to make executions easier on the executioners, which is contemptible. If no one can be hired to do it without complaining, the governor should be able to do it him/herself. It's the governor's ultimate responsibility.
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Post by Stormyweather on Feb 4, 2014 13:59:35 GMT -6
I mentioned in the "Execution Forum" that there were 39 executions in 2013. This number has been gradually falling with 52 (2009), 46 (2010), 43 (2011-12) and 39 (2013). There are already 20+ scheduled for 2014, but some are Pennsylvania which will not happen. I think the LI issue will keep the numbers low. Then again, California may get its act together. Any thoughts? It seems there is only one of three ways murder offenders die on California death row, illness, natural causes, or suicide.
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Post by charon on Feb 4, 2014 14:04:58 GMT -6
I mentioned in the "Execution Forum" that there were 39 executions in 2013. This number has been gradually falling with 52 (2009), 46 (2010), 43 (2011-12) and 39 (2013). There are already 20+ scheduled for 2014, but some are Pennsylvania which will not happen. I think the LI issue will keep the numbers low. Then again, California may get its act together. Any thoughts? It seems there is only one of three ways murder offenders die on California death row, illness, natural causes, or suicide. So, give them razors. Whatever, just make them dead.
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Post by Stormyweather on Feb 4, 2014 14:13:58 GMT -6
It seems there is only one of three ways murder offenders die on California death row, illness, natural causes, or suicide. So, give them razors. Whatever, just make them dead. I guess we should add Pennsylvania to that list.
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Post by Stormyweather on Feb 4, 2014 14:15:35 GMT -6
It seems there is only one of three ways murder offenders die on California death row, illness, natural causes, or suicide. So, give them razors. Whatever, just make them dead. Well I would hate to see them use them as weapons on the guards.
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Post by charon on Feb 4, 2014 14:20:26 GMT -6
So, give them razors. Whatever, just make them dead. Well I would hate to see them use them as weapons on the guards. Good point, yeah. The damn cowards would too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 16:02:49 GMT -6
ted bundy's murder rate seemed to take a nose dive, as did gacy's, gilmore's, and many many more? are there really people that still think execution is suppossed to deter others? speed limits, stop signs, laws against theft and such don't deter others so what's the deal here? explain that. Exactly, nothing will deter some from murdering too, those are the ones who should be execute & reason we do. . You know an odd fact about Ted Bundy, is apparently while he was awaiting trial in Colorado he asked another attorney which state would be most likely execute someone, and Florida was on that list. So I believe he went to Florida with the intention of having that fact hanging over his head that if he kills again, he will most certainly be executed for it, which was one of his greatest fears. He went to Florida hoping his murderous behavior could be suppressed under the fear of death, but in the end even that would not stop him. People like him will never be stopped, and will do anything or say anything to rationalize and continue doing what they do. If he was sentenced to life in prison, as the years went by and the emotion of his crimes simmered down, he would have eventually been seen as just another prisoner, all the while he would plotting to find a way to escape so that he could at least rape and kill one more innocent girl. He would I'm sure find a way to escape again, or sweet talk a parole board into believing he had been rehabilitated. I really think the fate that befell Ted Bundy was the most correct, otherwise he would still be with us plotting, waiting and dreaming of the day that he could be free to kill again.
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Post by hangman1981 on Feb 22, 2014 19:07:19 GMT -6
The antis always play their number games! Even if the number is greater than a previous year, they will STILL do all they can to create they own "downward trend."
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Post by hangman1981 on Feb 23, 2014 14:53:39 GMT -6
I predict 50 in 2014.
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Post by hangman1981 on Mar 13, 2014 23:32:21 GMT -6
Six executions for January 2014, only one last year. States seem to be getting through these LI issues. There will not be any real pattern as to how often executions are going to be cranked out. We may get off to a head start this year, then things may slow down with more appeals appearing out of nowhere. As I have said before, feel lucky we are executing the ones we can.
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Post by starbux on Mar 16, 2014 10:30:48 GMT -6
I would be happy for the prison version of hunger games. Let all kill each other so they can show the world how much they care about humanity.
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Post by rayozz on Mar 28, 2014 6:23:23 GMT -6
I mentioned in the "Execution Forum" that there were 39 executions in 2013. This number has been gradually falling with 52 (2009), 46 (2010), 43 (2011-12) and 39 (2013). There are already 20+ scheduled for 2014, but some are Pennsylvania which will not happen. I think the LI issue will keep the numbers low. Then again, California may get its act together. Any thoughts? End of March there have been 14 executions, as opposed to 5 last year. Seems like things are speeding up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2014 6:20:09 GMT -6
So iam going for 36 executions by end of year..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2014 19:40:12 GMT -6
Keep up the good work in the USA of getting rid of these people!Here in the UK most murderers can be out of prison in 10-15 years maximum and a great many released murderers have gone on to kill again.Over here the dreaded European court of human rights is always finding in their favour while not giving a *crap* about the victims.
I have to laugh about how these murderers have changed when people lobby to free or save them.Sure they have changed,they are locked away,free from temptation and drink and drugs.Put them back into the general populace and i wonder how many of these anti's would want them living next door to them?
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Post by starbux on Apr 12, 2014 3:37:22 GMT -6
There are already 16 by April. Does this mean we are going to stop for the year after May?
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