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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Apr 2, 2013 2:21:48 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2013 9:58:53 GMT -6
that is wrong on so many levels
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Post by fuglyville on Apr 9, 2013 17:02:42 GMT -6
This begs the question - what kind of support is given to the families and relatives of those executed in the U.S.?
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Post by whitediamonds on Apr 9, 2013 17:39:50 GMT -6
This begs the question - what kind of support is given to the families and relatives of those executed in the U.S.? Really sad their own family member brought this pain onto them too.
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Post by fuglyville on Apr 9, 2013 18:02:33 GMT -6
This begs the question - what kind of support is given to the families and relatives of those executed in the U.S.? Really sad their own family member brought this pain onto them too. But regardless of that, their loss and sorrow deserves the same support as those left behind by the original victim. This seems to be a forgotten aspect of the death penalty debate.
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Post by whitediamonds on Apr 9, 2013 18:05:08 GMT -6
Really sad their own family member brought this pain onto them too. But regardless of that, their loss and sorrow deserves the same support as those left behind by the original victim. This seems to be a forgotten aspect of the death penalty debate. It is not forgotten, many resources for the children as any child in need.
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Post by Californian on Apr 9, 2013 22:14:34 GMT -6
This begs the question - what kind of support is given to the families and relatives of those executed in the U.S.? We deport them to Austria so they can become good little fascists.
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Post by Matt on Apr 10, 2013 16:17:58 GMT -6
This begs the question - what kind of support is given to the families and relatives of those executed in the U.S.? Why is this an important question? They have access to the same social safety nets as anyone else.
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Post by Matt on Apr 10, 2013 16:19:18 GMT -6
A ridiculous and heartless policy.
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Post by Californian on Apr 10, 2013 16:51:30 GMT -6
They're commies. Enough said?
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Post by Potassium_Pixie on Apr 18, 2013 1:33:24 GMT -6
Even commies need to have families. So if there are orphans from executions, why not just build a special orphanage for them to live in?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2013 16:02:00 GMT -6
Excuse me. In order to be an orphan both parents have to be dead. Does this mean that both of the parents of these children were executed? If not, then they are not orphans. It sounds to me like another manipulation of words to get pity for the murderers.
Too bad these murderer lovers don't bother to hit anyone with the facts.
I think it was fugly, the super hero to all murderers of the world, that asked what we did for orphans of the executed in the US. I think it would depend if both parents are dead but then I think it would depend on the state but I know that they are not out on the street.
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Post by starbux on Apr 18, 2013 17:16:54 GMT -6
This begs the question - what kind of support is given to the families and relatives of those executed in the U.S.? They get a strawberry cupcake and a free puppy
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Post by starbux on Apr 18, 2013 17:20:20 GMT -6
Excuse me. In order to be an orphan both parents have to be dead. Does this mean that both of the parents of these children were executed? If not, then they are not orphans. It sounds to me like another manipulation of words to get pity for the murderers. Too bad these murderer lovers don't bother to hit anyone with the facts. I think it was fugly, the super hero to all murderers of the world, that asked what we did for orphans of the executed in the US. I think it would depend if both parents are dead but then I think it would depend on the state but I know that they are not out on the street. Good point
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Post by whitediamonds on Apr 18, 2013 17:42:38 GMT -6
Excuse me. In order to be an orphan both parents have to be dead. Does this mean that both of the parents of these children were executed? If not, then they are not orphans. It sounds to me like another manipulation of words to get pity for the murderers. Too bad these murderer lovers don't bother to hit anyone with the facts. I think it was fugly, the super hero to all murderers of the world, that asked what we did for orphans of the executed in the US. I think it would depend if both parents are dead but then I think it would depend on the state but I know that they are not out on the street. Maybe fugly, has close friends ( murderers) who were executeed for murdering their whole family exception of the child/children survived?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2013 22:36:03 GMT -6
Excuse me. In order to be an orphan both parents have to be dead. Does this mean that both of the parents of these children were executed? If not, then they are not orphans. It sounds to me like another manipulation of words to get pity for the murderers. Too bad these murderer lovers don't bother to hit anyone with the facts. I think it was fugly, the super hero to all murderers of the world, that asked what we did for orphans of the executed in the US. I think it would depend if both parents are dead but then I think it would depend on the state but I know that they are not out on the street. Good point. Though I believe the families of executed criminals in China tend to become pariahs (ie unemployable, nobody wants to be associated with them) which is unfortunate.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2013 23:20:31 GMT -6
They're commies. Enough said? so the children are damned because of a parental fault?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2013 23:27:24 GMT -6
Excuse me. In order to be an orphan both parents have to be dead. Does this mean that both of the parents of these children were executed? If not, then they are not orphans. It sounds to me like another manipulation of words to get pity for the murderers. Too bad these murderer lovers don't bother to hit anyone with the facts. I think it was fugly, the super hero to all murderers of the world, that asked what we did for orphans of the executed in the US. I think it would depend if both parents are dead but then I think it would depend on the state but I know that they are not out on the street. I didn't read into it at all that anyone is trying to get pity for the murderers but rather for the children left behind who will remain outcasts of society. It is a cruel policy and no one can blame the children for what the parents have done. Is it also true that China executes for non violent crimes unlike here where murder must be involved. What would be your reaction to meet a child of a murderer? How would you treat that person if they were grown and had taken no part in the crime? Sometimes the pro death penalty people also forget the facts.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2013 1:18:13 GMT -6
I'm having a terrible time editing on this website so will add to my question to Greggsmom........how would you treat any murderer's children, adult or minor, if they still visit and support the parent who committed murder?
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Apr 19, 2013 3:02:13 GMT -6
Only speaking for myself, I don't know the child of a murderer but I am close friends with the bother and sister of a murderer/rapist. The family are wonderful and I treat them like anyone else. Its all on the murderer in my humble opinion. My friends certainly had nothing to do with their siblings actions.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2013 10:34:31 GMT -6
Excuse me. In order to be an orphan both parents have to be dead. Does this mean that both of the parents of these children were executed? If not, then they are not orphans. It sounds to me like another manipulation of words to get pity for the murderers. Too bad these murderer lovers don't bother to hit anyone with the facts. I think it was fugly, the super hero to all murderers of the world, that asked what we did for orphans of the executed in the US. I think it would depend if both parents are dead but then I think it would depend on the state but I know that they are not out on the street. I didn't read into it at all that anyone is trying to get pity for the murderers but rather for the children left behind who will remain outcasts of society. It is a cruel policy and no one can blame the children for what the parents have done. Is it also true that China executes for non violent crimes unlike here where murder must be involved. What would be your reaction to meet a child of a murderer? How would you treat that person if they were grown and had taken no part in the crime? Sometimes the pro death penalty people also forget the facts.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2013 10:45:09 GMT -6
You don't know me or maybe you do and are just back under another name. I never forget the facts and if I would, I would apologize as soon as I found out I was wrong.
It sounds to me like a slant from AI or another group such as that. Rather like BOO HOO look at what horrors the DP creates and they forget all about what the horrors these POS created.
I do know a family member of a murderer on death row and I think that this person is one of the best people I have ever had the privilege to meet BUT in the same breath I know another family members of murderers very well and I know how evil and nasty these people are. I don't blame the children of the executed unless they deserve blame but I also don't buy into everything that the media tries to put out. It is all about what card is popular at the moment.
My reaction to meeting a child of a murderer. I haven't gotten to meet any such child and I won't go out of my way to meet one and if by chance I did. I would bet said offspring would not bring up that part of his DNA chain was part of a murderer's and if they were stupid enough to do so, it would be to bytch about how awful the DP is and I would ignore them and walk away in disgust.
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Post by Californian on Apr 19, 2013 12:43:30 GMT -6
They're commies. Enough said? so the children are damned because of a parental fault? Works for me. You? They're like kittens-they grow up to be cats.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 19:59:07 GMT -6
I think ex FBI agent John Douglas wrote about a study on serial killers and mentioned it was almost universal that these guys come from dysfunctional families. However he also says most of then had siblings who grew up in the same environment and most of them became responsible citizens
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2013 10:56:46 GMT -6
I wholeheartedly agree with you the DP does not create horrors for offender's loved ones but rather the offender did that when they chose to murder.
I also agree that the child of a murderer would be very likely not to bring that piece of information into a casual conversation; now there are two adult children of murderers who have written books but the books are about the impact of the crime their dad's committed on their lives and I believe at this point, neither one visits the father in prison.
I don't believe in putting blame on the death penalty; there is no sense in that direction.
I'm sorry the spotlight switches from the victims to the offender; I can't imagine or understand the pain of losing someone to a murder.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2013 11:00:00 GMT -6
so the children are damned because of a parental fault? Works for me. You? They're like kittens-they grow up to be cats. it doesn't work for me but I do see your point.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2013 23:24:43 GMT -6
They're commies. Enough said? so the children are damned because of a parental fault? Yes, that is how it works
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Post by starbux on Apr 23, 2013 21:14:28 GMT -6
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