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Post by Californian on Sept 13, 2012 16:59:16 GMT -6
What is with the ? A mine can ruin your whole day. Sound like a booby trap to me. Now called an "IED."
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Post by Stormyweather on Sept 13, 2012 17:42:23 GMT -6
What is with the ? A mine can ruin your whole day. Oh, I thought you were mad at me. I should have said he and two other guys. He didn't find out till years later that the second guy died. I guess he must have lived for awhile. Since my husband had only two months left in his Vietnam Tour they figured by the time he recovered it wouldn't be worth sending him back so he was sent back to the US. Then he was within a couple days from being sent to the Yom Kippur War in 1973.
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Post by oslooskar on Sept 13, 2012 22:17:10 GMT -6
I would hardly compare murder with slipping on a banana peel. Who's doing that? Step on a landmine you die. That’s a consequence of stepping on a landmine and not a form of capital punishment.
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Post by Stormyweather on Sept 14, 2012 7:31:41 GMT -6
Well not everyone who steps on a landmine dies. Some are just maimed. Your way is unrealistic anyway. Do you realize how many of these would have to be built? What a waste of good land that could be used to grow more food and maybe for someone to build a home. etc. If you're not going to execute them locking them up in a small room such as they have now is good enough. Let's see what they can accomplish in a small space.
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Post by oslooskar on Sept 15, 2012 18:57:21 GMT -6
Well not everyone who steps on a landmine dies. “If they step on the landmine they're a goner. “ <<< Those are your words, not mine. However, whether they die or not is completely irrelevant. The point is no one is being legally punished for stepping on a landmine. Your way is unrealistic anyway. What’s unrealistic about my way? Do you realize how many of these would have to be built? What’s the cost of a fence, a minefield and a few guard towers in comparison to building, staffing, maintaining, and running a modern supermax prison? If you're not going to execute them locking them up in a small room such as they have now is good enough. Let's see what they can accomplish in a small space. That’s the problem with people like you; I have to pay for your sadistic delights.
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Post by Stormyweather on Sept 15, 2012 20:02:05 GMT -6
Well not everyone who steps on a landmine dies. “If they step on the landmine they're a goner. “ <<< Those are your words, not mine. However, whether they die or not is completely irrelevant. The point is no one is being legally punished for stepping on a landmine. Yes those were my words until Califorian said all landmines don't necessarily kill. Did you read his posts?
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Post by Stormyweather on Sept 15, 2012 20:05:08 GMT -6
Well not everyone who steps on a landmine dies. What’s unrealistic about my way? I already it would take too much land for for every prisoner to grow enough for extra land for the landmines plus landmines. The land could be put to better use. You would also have to have enough land for them to have a place to sleep.
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Post by Stormyweather on Sept 15, 2012 20:06:54 GMT -6
If you're not going to execute them locking them up in a small room such as they have now is good enough. Let's see what they can accomplish in a small space. That’s the problem with people like you; I have to pay for your sadistic delights. Minor compared to a murderer's sadistic delights.
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Post by oslooskar on Sept 16, 2012 11:57:44 GMT -6
Yes those were my words until Califorian said all landmines don't necessarily kill. Did you read his posts? Yes, I read CALIFORNIAN’S comment and though he presents a valid technical point it is not relevant. The point is the consequences of stepping on a landmine are just that, CONSEQUENCES, and they do not in any way represent a form of legal punishment as you implied. I already it would take too much land for for every prisoner to grow enough for extra land for the landmines plus landmines. The land could be put to better use. You would also have to have enough land for them to have a place to sleep. That’s not a valid argument. The cost would be minimal in comparison to running a modern supermax prison. Minor compared to a murderer's sadistic delights. Ideally such individuals would be awaiting execution in conventional prisons and ineligible for exile.
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Post by Stormyweather on Sept 16, 2012 15:00:59 GMT -6
Execute them be done. No need to play games.
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Sept 16, 2012 15:38:16 GMT -6
Execute them be done. No need to play games. Exactly. I like to read the arguments but switch off after a while. So when you coming to Wales then?
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Post by Stormyweather on Sept 16, 2012 18:02:15 GMT -6
Execute them be done. No need to play games. Exactly. I like to read the arguments but switch off after a while. So when you coming to Wales then? When I win the lottery.
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Sept 17, 2012 1:31:27 GMT -6
Exactly. I like to read the arguments but switch off after a while. So when you coming to Wales then? When I win the lottery. Result!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2012 4:40:11 GMT -6
Kill him, people like him don't deserve to live.
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Post by fuglyville on Oct 1, 2012 16:24:34 GMT -6
Kill him, people like him don't deserve to live. And what gives you the right to decide...? Fortunately, the Norwegian correctional system believes that the lack of freedom is the punishment - apart from that, prisoners are to be treated with dignity and humanity. Besides, there's extremely little danger of the death penalty becoming reinstated - and most people believe we're just as well without it
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Oct 2, 2012 3:51:54 GMT -6
Never count on anything not coming back. Who knows? Long after we are dead, Europe and Great Britain might be executing with as much gusto as we did in years past. In fact if we (UK) carry on being lenient with criminals, I see a very grim future where death will be plenty. It certainly won't be a world of hippies and lily livered liberals
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 5:29:09 GMT -6
Kill him, people like him don't deserve to live. And what gives you the right to decide...? Fortunately, the Norwegian correctional system believes that the lack of freedom is the punishment - apart from that, prisoners are to be treated with dignity and humanity. Besides, there's extremely little danger of the death penalty becoming reinstated - and most people believe we're just as well without it Dignity and humanity? Lets observe Prisons in America and Europe, then tell me what you think. You must be one of those people that are against the death penalty. Of course, forgive the person who killed 27 children. If we were run by people like you, those who commit horrendous crimes against Humanity, will be treated with excellent care in prison. Now, isn't that an outrage? No one said anything when the blacks were lynched during the 1930s. So why should they believe they're better without it? Read Steinbeck's Mice and Men novel and you'll get an idea. That man has gotta to be killed for his crime.
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Post by Stormyweather on Oct 2, 2012 16:57:05 GMT -6
Kill him, people like him don't deserve to live. And what gives you the right to decide...? Fortunately, the Norwegian correctional system believes that the lack of freedom is the punishment - apart from that, prisoners are to be treated with dignity and humanity. Besides, there's extremely little danger of the death penalty becoming reinstated - and most people believe we're just as well without it Just as much right as you feel he derseves to live and get the warmies he'll benefit having in prison.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2012 15:03:46 GMT -6
They don't really need a farm bordered with land mines. What they need is to be transported to an isolated penal colony. It needs to be almost escape-proof. This looks like a good spot: 5°17′38″N 52°35′0″W
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Post by Potassium_Pixie on Oct 28, 2012 4:55:26 GMT -6
Though, if an escaping prisoner did step on a landmine and didn't die, at least he would be unable to kill again.
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