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Post by rayozz on Jul 30, 2012 0:13:52 GMT -6
This is an interesting one. Convicted of killing police informant, Jerry Williams in 1992.. Sentenced to death in 1994, but gained a retrial in 1998 when he was resentenced to death. Has had claims for a low IQ denied on two occasions. In a new twist a man has said that Wilson didn't kill Jerry Williams, but Billy Ray Joseph did. Billy Ray Joseph is deceased! www.kfdm.com/shared/news/top-stories/stories/kfdm_vid_1344.shtml
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Post by Charlene on Aug 4, 2012 21:53:35 GMT -6
Case history from site: On November 4, 1992, Officer Robert Roberts and other police officers entered Marvin Lee Wilson's Beaumont, Texas apartment pursuant to a search warrant. Jerry Williams was a confidential informant whose information enabled Roberts to obtain the warrant. Williams entered and left the apartment minutes before the police went in. Wilson, 34 years old at the time, Vincent "Gun" Webb, and a juvenile female were present in the apartment. Over 24 grams of cocaine were found, and Wilson and Webb were arrested for possession of a controlled substance. Wilson was subsequently released on bond, but Webb remained in jail. Sometime after the incident, Wilson told Terry Lewis that someone had “snitched” on Wilson, that the “snitch” was never going to have the chance to “to have someone else busted,” and that Wilson “was going to get him.” On November 9, 1992, several observers saw an incident take place in the parking lot in front of Mike's Grocery. Two women were together in the parking lot. Another woman and her daughter were inside the store. A man was outside the store, but came in at some point to relay information to one of the women. The doors to Mike's Grocery were made of clear glass, and one of the women stood by the door and watched the events outside. While the witnesses watched the events unfold, another called the police. These witnesses testified consistently although some witnesses noticed details not noticed by others. In the parking lot, Wilson stood over Williams and beat him. Wilson asked Williams, “What do you want to be a snitch for? Do you know what we do to a snitch? Do you want to die right here?” In response, Williams begged for his life. Andrew Lewis, Terry's husband, was pumping gasoline in his car at the time. Williams ran away from Wilson and across the street to a field. Wilson pursued Williams and caught him. Andrew drove the car to the field. While Williams struggled against them, Wilson and Andrew forced Williams into the car. At some point during this incident, either in front of Mike's Grocery, across the street, or at both places, Andrew participated in hitting Williams and Wilson asked Andrew: “Where's the gun?” Wilson told Andrew to get the gun and said that he (Wilson) wanted to kill Williams. They drove toward a Mobil refinery. Two of the witnesses drove back to their apartments, which were close by, and when they arrived, they heard what sounded like gunshots from the direction of the Mobil plant. Sometime after the incident, Wilson told his wife, in the presence of Terry Lewis and her husband, “Baby, you remember the n*****r I told you I was going to get? I did it. I don't know if he dead or what, but I left him there to die.” When Terry looked back at her husband, Wilson stated, “Don't be mad at Andrew because Andrew did not do it. I did it.” On November 10, 1992, a bus driver noticed Williams' dead body on the side of a road. The autopsy report concluded that Williams died from close range gunshot wounds to the head and neck. Having known Wilson for 16 years, Zeno identified Wilson. Some of the witnesses recognized Jerry Williams but did not know Wilson or Andrew. One witness subsequently identified Andrew in a photo line-up. At that time, the witness told law enforcement authorities that the man he identified in the photo was the “helper,” rather than the primary actor. The other man, who the witness described as having a “gerry curl,” made the threats and conducted most of the beating of Williams. Under defense cross-examination at trial, the witness testified that the man in the photo (i.e. Andrew Lewis) was the man with the gerry curl and hence, the primary actor. But, upon redirect examination, the witness testified that his earlier testimony was in error, and that the man in the photo was not the one with the gerry curl. This contradiction led to questioning that explored an incident involving the witness, defense counsel, and Wilson. At one time, defense counsel and Wilson interviewed this witness together, while the man was in jail for an unrelated offense. No representatives of the district attorney's office were present. Wilson asked the witness for his father's name, and Wilson asked if the man had a new baby. These questions made the witness feel scared and intimidated, and he wondered how Wilson could have known about his new baby. Wilson had been convicted of committing two aggravated robberies in 1981. He receive a sentence of 8 years and was released on mandatory supervision less than 3 years later. In one of those aggravated robberies, he pointed a shotgun at the clerk of a convenience store. He was also convicted of robbery in 1987. For that crime he was sentenced to 20 years in prison and was paroled just over 3 years later, on January 31, 1991.
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Aug 7, 2012 16:39:51 GMT -6
Well after wastiing my time on other sites, the Supreme Court refuses to stop the execution of Marvin Wilson.
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Aug 7, 2012 17:35:47 GMT -6
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Post by Californian on Aug 7, 2012 17:36:59 GMT -6
Well after wastiing my time on other sites, the Supreme Court refuses to stop the execution of Marvin Wilson. There's a shocker. He should be assuming room temperature any time now.
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Post by Californian on Aug 7, 2012 18:27:25 GMT -6
Gone. Hasta la vista, creep.
Texas executes man despite low IQ claims
(AP) HUNTSVILLE, Texas - A Texas man convicted of killing a police informant was executed Tuesday evening after the U.S. Supreme Court rejected arguments that he was too mentally impaired to qualify for the death penalty.
Marvin Wilson, 54, was pronounced dead 14 minutes after his lethal injection began at the state prison in Huntsville. Wilson's attorneys had argued that he should have been ineligible for capital punishment because of his low IQ.
In their appeal to the high court, his attorneys pointed to a psychological test conducted in 2004 that pegged Wilson's IQ at 61, below the generally accepted minimum competency standard of 70.
But lower courts agreed with state attorneys, who argued that Wilson's claim was based on a single test that may have been faulty and that his mental impairment claim isn't supported by other tests and assessments of him over the years.
The Supreme Court denied his request for a stay of execution less than two hours before his lethal injection began. Lead defense attorney Lee Kovarsky said he was "gravely disappointed and saddened" by the ruling, calling it "outrageous that the state of Texas continues to utilize unscientific guidelines ... to determine which citizens with intellectual disability are exempt from execution."
High Court to allow execution of "low-IQ" inmate Wilson was convicted of murdering 21-year-old Jerry Williams in November 1992, several days after police seized 24 grams of cocaine from Wilson's apartment and arrested him. Witnesses testified that Wilson and another man, Andrew Lewis, beat Williams outside of a convenience store in Beaumont, about 80 miles east of Houston. Wilson, who was free on bond, accused Williams of snitching on him about the drugs, they said.
Witnesses said Wilson and Lewis then abducted Williams, and neighborhood residents said they heard a gunshot a short time later. Williams was found dead on the side of a road the next day, wearing only socks, severely beaten and shot in the head and neck at close range.
Wilson was arrested the next day when he reported to his parole officer on a robbery conviction for which he served less than four years of a 20-year prison sentence. It was the second time he had been sent to prison for robbery.
At Wilson's capital murder trial, Lewis' wife testified that Wilson confessed to the killing in front of her, her husband and his own wife.
"Don't be mad at Andrew because Andrew did not do it," Lewis' wife said Wilson told them. "I did it."
Lewis received a life prison term for his involvement.
The Supreme Court issued a ruling in 2002 outlawing the execution of the mentally impaired, but left it to states to determine what constitutes mental impairment. Kovarsky argued that Texas is trying to skirt the ban by altering the generally accepted definitions of mental impairment to the point where gaining relief for an inmate is "virtually unobtainable."
State attorneys say the court left it to states to develop appropriate standards for enforcing the ban and that Texas chose to incorporate a number of factors besides an inmate's IQ, including the inmate's adaptive behavior and functioning.
Edward Marshall, a Texas assistant attorney general, said records show Wilson habitually gave less than full effort and "was manipulative and deceitful when it suited his interest," and that the state considered his ability to show personal independence and social responsibility in making its determinations.
"Considering Wilson's drug-dealing, street-gambler, criminal lifestyle since an early age, he was obviously competent at managing money, and not having a 9-to-5 job is no critical failure," Marshall said. "Wilson created schemes using a decoy to screen his thefts, hustled for jobs in the community, and orchestrated the execution of the snitch, demonstrating inventiveness, drive and leadership."
Wilson's lawyers also had argued that additional DNA tests should be conducted on a gray hair from someone white that was found on Williams' body, suggesting someone else killed him. Wilson, Williams and Lewis are black.
Ed Shettle, the Jefferson County assistant district attorney who prosecuted Wilson, dismissed the theory of another killer as a "red herring."
Wilson was the seventh person executed by lethal injection in Texas this year. At least nine other prisoners in America's most active death penalty state have execution dates in the coming months, including one later this month.
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Post by starbux on Aug 7, 2012 19:56:52 GMT -6
Glad to see justice carried out. No one will miss him!
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Post by rayozz on Aug 7, 2012 21:06:41 GMT -6
Gone. Hasta la vista, creep. Texas executes man despite low IQ claims(In their appeal to the high court, his attorneys pointed to a psychological test conducted in 2004 that pegged Wilson's IQ at 61, below the generally accepted minimum competency standard of 70. But lower courts agreed with state attorneys, who argued that Wilson's claim was based on a single test that may have been faulty and that his mental impairment claim isn't supported by other tests and assessments of him over the years. In fact Wilson had 5 IQ tests since the age of 13. The only one below 70 was for his 2004 appeal, and this was not conducted by a qualified person.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2012 3:21:47 GMT -6
Gone. Hasta la vista, creep. Texas executes man despite low IQ claims(In their appeal to the high court, his attorneys pointed to a psychological test conducted in 2004 that pegged Wilson's IQ at 61, below the generally accepted minimum competency standard of 70. But lower courts agreed with state attorneys, who argued that Wilson's claim was based on a single test that may have been faulty and that his mental impairment claim isn't supported by other tests and assessments of him over the years. In fact Wilson had 5 IQ tests since the age of 13. The only one below 70 was for his 2004 appeal, and this was not conducted by a qualified person. Now aint that funny..
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Post by whitediamonds on Aug 8, 2012 7:22:29 GMT -6
Odd how ones IQ changes(drops) only just before execution is near for them, it never came up in the original trial either. But many are saying Texas executes the mentally retard now over this crappy defense game.
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Aug 8, 2012 7:51:35 GMT -6
Im guessing its only the thughuggers who think that and who cares what they think? They 're just mad at Texas for culling a few of their friends
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Aug 8, 2012 8:05:28 GMT -6
Just saw this:
On Tuesday, the use of Steinbeck's character to support the execution of those with less profound mental deficits was criticized harshly by the author's son. "Prior to reading about Mr. Wilson's case, I had no idea that the great state of Texas would use a fictional character that my father created to make a point about human loyalty and dedication …. as a benchmark to identify whether defendants with intellectual disability should live or die," Thomas Steinbeck said in a statement. "I am certain that if my father, John Steinbeck, were here, he would be deeply angry and ashamed to see his work used in this way," Steinbeck said.
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Post by kma367 on Aug 8, 2012 10:32:38 GMT -6
It's amazing how many of the articles regarding the execution of Wilson parrot the defense's conclusory allegations about a single IQ test administered in 2004 and fail to acknowledge that, historically, Wilson did not claim to be mentally retarded prior to 2004, which all of his other appeals failed. The issue was not raised in mitigation at this trial, likely because it had no merit. Additionally, while IQ scores can fluctuate a point or three here and there between tests and over the years, a person's IQ does not drop significantly absent severe brain damage/injury. Such a drop is usually an indication of mallingering to a qualified, trained psychologist administering tests.
Another factor that the "journalists" seem to fail to recognize is that evaluation of mental disability in the average person is not based solely on IQ, which means that Texas is actually applying the same criteria to evaluate competency for execution used to evaluate the average person's qualification for public assistance based on a mental disability.
I realize that there is always some bias one way or the other in journalism, however, it seems to be getting to a point where journalists who would claim to be objective are obviously not trying very hard to keep their objectivity.
kma367
P.S. Broker, when did you stop being "Naughty"?
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Aug 8, 2012 11:55:44 GMT -6
Im still naughty KMA, just undercover at the minute as Golden
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Post by Breka on Aug 8, 2012 12:38:23 GMT -6
IQ about 6.30 pm at 08/06/2012 = "0"
Oh that execution brought it to the German morning and evening news with the head line :Texas executed a mentally retarded .
Texas criminal justice system will certainly "cope" with that burden !
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Aug 8, 2012 13:14:02 GMT -6
Think Progress had quite the headline last week:
Texas Set To Unconstitutionally Execute A Mentally Retarded Man Next Week
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Post by starbux on Aug 9, 2012 15:28:33 GMT -6
I wonder what is IQ is at fridge temperature
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 2:10:42 GMT -6
Think Progress had quite the headline last week: Texas Set To Unconstitutionally Execute A Mentally Retarded Man Next Week Now thats Progress,IMO! if your smart enough to kill someone,Then you are not stupid enough not to be killed..
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Post by moonlight on Aug 10, 2012 6:54:50 GMT -6
So the tard card didn't work this time. What a shame really! ;D
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Post by zd3925 on Aug 10, 2012 8:26:22 GMT -6
Gone. Hasta la vista, creep. Texas executes man despite low IQ claims(AP) HUNTSVILLE, Texas - A Texas man convicted of killing a police informant was executed Tuesday evening after the U.S. Supreme Court rejected arguments that he was too mentally impaired to qualify for the death penalty. Marvin Wilson, 54, was pronounced dead 14 minutes after his lethal injection began at the state prison in Huntsville. Wilson's attorneys had argued that he should have been ineligible for capital punishment because of his low IQ. In their appeal to the high court, his attorneys pointed to a psychological test conducted in 2004 that pegged Wilson's IQ at 61, below the generally accepted minimum competency standard of 70. But lower courts agreed with state attorneys, who argued that Wilson's claim was based on a single test that may have been faulty and that his mental impairment claim isn't supported by other tests and assessments of him over the years. The Supreme Court denied his request for a stay of execution less than two hours before his lethal injection began. Lead defense attorney Lee Kovarsky said he was "gravely disappointed and saddened" by the ruling, calling it "outrageous that the state of Texas continues to utilize unscientific guidelines ... to determine which citizens with intellectual disability are exempt from execution." High Court to allow execution of "low-IQ" inmate Wilson was convicted of murdering 21-year-old Jerry Williams in November 1992, several days after police seized 24 grams of cocaine from Wilson's apartment and arrested him. Witnesses testified that Wilson and another man, Andrew Lewis, beat Williams outside of a convenience store in Beaumont, about 80 miles east of Houston. Wilson, who was free on bond, accused Williams of snitching on him about the drugs, they said. Witnesses said Wilson and Lewis then abducted Williams, and neighborhood residents said they heard a gunshot a short time later. Williams was found dead on the side of a road the next day, wearing only socks, severely beaten and shot in the head and neck at close range. Wilson was arrested the next day when he reported to his parole officer on a robbery conviction for which he served less than four years of a 20-year prison sentence. It was the second time he had been sent to prison for robbery. At Wilson's capital murder trial, Lewis' wife testified that Wilson confessed to the killing in front of her, her husband and his own wife. "Don't be mad at Andrew because Andrew did not do it," Lewis' wife said Wilson told them. "I did it." Lewis received a life prison term for his involvement. The Supreme Court issued a ruling in 2002 outlawing the execution of the mentally impaired, but left it to states to determine what constitutes mental impairment. Kovarsky argued that Texas is trying to skirt the ban by altering the generally accepted definitions of mental impairment to the point where gaining relief for an inmate is "virtually unobtainable." State attorneys say the court left it to states to develop appropriate standards for enforcing the ban and that Texas chose to incorporate a number of factors besides an inmate's IQ, including the inmate's adaptive behavior and functioning. Edward Marshall, a Texas assistant attorney general, said records show Wilson habitually gave less than full effort and "was manipulative and deceitful when it suited his interest," and that the state considered his ability to show personal independence and social responsibility in making its determinations. "Considering Wilson's drug-dealing, street-gambler, criminal lifestyle since an early age, he was obviously competent at managing money, and not having a 9-to-5 job is no critical failure," Marshall said. "Wilson created schemes using a decoy to screen his thefts, hustled for jobs in the community, and orchestrated the execution of the snitch, demonstrating inventiveness, drive and leadership." Wilson's lawyers also had argued that additional DNA tests should be conducted on a gray hair from someone white that was found on Williams' body, suggesting someone else killed him. Wilson, Williams and Lewis are black. Ed Shettle, the Jefferson County assistant district attorney who prosecuted Wilson, dismissed the theory of another killer as a "red herring." Wilson was the seventh person executed by lethal injection in Texas this year. At least nine other prisoners in America's most active death penalty state have execution dates in the coming months, including one later this month. Another turd flushed
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