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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Jul 22, 2012 5:06:03 GMT -6
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
DEATH ROW INMATES SUE TEXAS GOVERNOR RICK PERRY AND SENATOR JOHN WHITMIRE FOR ABUSIVE CONDITIONS
Livingston, Texas, USA - April 26, 2012
Thomas Whitaker, an inmate on Texas death row, has filed a class action lawsuit against Texas Governor Rick Perry, Senator John Whitmire, and the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for the inhumane and unconstitutional conditions under which the men on death row must live. Allegations include taking away wheelchairs from those who cannot walk, denying mental and physical health care, being held in solitary confinement for over ten years without any legal justification based on their conduct, dangerously unsafe living conditions, inadequate nutrition, inadequate exercise, denial of adequate access to telephones, destruction and loss of necessary legal documents, denial of religious freedom, denial of fair administrative process, failure to timely deliver mail including legal correspondence, and other abuses. In the case of Ruiz v. Estelle, the U.S. District Court for the Southern District held that conditions for the Texas prison system were unconstitutional but also held that the inmates of death row would need to bring a separate lawsuit to address their unique situation. That is the action now being taken by Whitaker. There have been acts of retaliation by TDCJ toward men who have been a part of this suit or similar litigation.
The following acts and omissions of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice have caused irreparable harm to all residents of death row at the Polunsky Unit in Livingston, Texas. These acts and omissions continue to harm the residents of death row at the Polunsky Unit.
All residents now housed at Polunsky, previously housed at Ellis, on death row were put in solitary confinement in administrative segregation improperly and in violation of the existing plan for incarceration of those persons on male death row. Although most of the residents had not been charged with or found guilty of any conduct that would be punishable by solitary confinement, they have been retained in solitary for over ten years (since 2000). No less than a full due process hearing is required to determine whether there is a valid reason for the continued confinement in solitary. No such hearings have been held. The Texas Department of Criminal Justice regulations require a hearing with attendance by the Plaintiff, the warden, and the Classification Committee of the unit to determine if administrative segregation is appropriate or to extend such conditions beyond a limited period. There have been no such hearings. Those so held do not meet the Texas Department of Criminal Justice [TDCJ] requirements for such confinement because there has been no determination that each individual is in need of segregation for his protection or safety; there is no violation of the regulations of TDCJ for which a hearing is pending, there is no reason to assume that all are “custody risks” when they have shown no signs of being such. The fact that another person attempted escape does not make this entire class any more of a custody risk than the average person incarcerated in the general population.
By both action and inaction basic human needs of adequate food, safe shelter, adequate exercise, medical care and living conditions conducive to mental health are being denied every resident of death row. There are frequent failures to provide sufficient nutrition for the residents of death row in their daily food provision. Housing conditions include unsanitary living conditions due to inadequate cleaning of the cells and shower areas. At times, no cleaning product other than water is used by those performing general cleaning. Residents are not given access to cleaning products to maintain their cells in a sanitary condition and to kill black mold. Although security might dictate precluding caustic chemicals in the area housing those who might be a security risk, there is no reason to deny them ordinary cleaning products to keep their living area safe from disease causing bacteria. The food trays are often placed on the floors where there is sewage or spittle. The showers have inadequate ventilation causing it to be so humid and hot that residents have been made ill. The attorney visitation booths are not adequately ventilated for the residents. When an unruly resident is being gassed for misconduct, the other are exposed to so much of the caustic and harmful fumes as to also suffer from the contact. There is inadequate exercise. One hour a week is inadequate for the maintenance of physical health. There is no reason access to the outdoors and vigorous physical activity daily should be denied.
The cells have inadequate ventilation and they effectively shut off the residents from all contact with the outside world. The occupants of the cells are subjected to harsh temperatures. The ceilings of some cells leak and there is black mold growing in some cells. Lights are controlled by officers who turn them off and on at their discretion exposing those trying to sleep to light that awakens them and prevents adequate rest. Food is served at hours not usually considered appropriate for meals with no justification for such a schedule. Clothing also is delivered at hours designed to interrupt sleep. Other than the brief periods they are allowed out to shower and one time a week they are allowed recreation, they are in solitary confinement twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week. The prolonged period of sensory deprivation has resulted in serious mental health conditions. No effort has been made to examine the residents of these isolation cells to see how they have been damaged by these conditions.
There has been a frequent lack of care used in regard to legal documents. When their cells are searched for contraband, their legal documents are often tossed in with other property and subsequently lost or damaged.
In violation of the regulations of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice, “legal visits” between offenders in order to obtain needed assistance in their legal cases have been curtailed. Adequate postage is denied which prevents corresponding with legal counsel when necessary. Mail sent to or received from legal representatives has been opened and read. Access to law books is very limited and difficult as well as access to information that could be gained from having greater access to the library and to television. Telephone access so as to be able to contact their legal representatives is not permitted. Residents of death row are denied adequate telephone access to contact legal counsel. At times, the transport of the resident is so slow that they are denied access to legal counsel. Counsel often is forced to wait for up to an hour or completely denied a legal visit.
Residents of death row have been denied reasonable treatment for diagnosed medical conditions. Medical staff exhibits indifference or is unavailable. Dental care is extremely inadequate as is care of vision. Those in need of wheelchairs are now being denied access to a wheelchair and required to walk using a walker out of an excessive reaction to one person having been a security risk because he was being transported in a wheelchair when a weapon was found in the wheelchair. There is a concerted effort to avoid identifying the mentally handicapped for fear it will lead to them getting their sentences reduced to life rather than execution. Further, the mentally ill are not housed separately as is required by the regulations. Those nearby are kept awake by the shouts of those who are psychologically disturbed. There is inadequate treatment of the mental health issues that incarceration in these conditions necessitates. There is totally inadequate screening to determine whether mental health issues have arisen. There is inappropriate supervision of the mentally ill in terms of their maintenance on the prescribed treatment. The seriously mentally ill are not transferred to more suitable facilities nor is staff trained to deal with them properly. Prescribed medications and “over the counter” medications are not provided promptly or consistently so as to allow maintenance of the health of all residents, both mentally and physically in need of regular treatment. Both the mentally and physically ill have had the water turned off in their cells to prevent them from urinating due to dehydration. They have been denied food so as to not have fecal matter if the mentally ill individuals throw feces at guards. The physically ill had hemorrhoids and was bleeding excessively. At such time as each such sick individual became unable to move, they were finally given some degree of treatment at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston, Texas. Contrary to the ethical standards required, no physician or guard or warden reported these crimes of abuse. The elderly, diabetic or mentally ill have been abused because they could not move quickly or fell due to their fragile condition. The very severely mentally ill are incapable of completing their administrative appeals due to their condition. Everyone suffers emotional trauma from witnessing these episodes of abuse of weak and fragile individuals. The mentally challenged or mentally ill are subject to punishment for their failure to understand the regulations they must follow. Their non-compliance due to confusion leads to longer and longer confinement in segregation without clothes, mattress, linens, and inadequate food and medication. Guards are poorly trained in mental health so as to recognize whether there is real misconduct or a lack of comprehension. Those who are delusional are harassed and tormented by some guards. These guards are not disciplined or terminated, but are allowed to continue to abuse the mentally ill. Those who are mentally ill are incompetent to personally bring any grievance or complaint on their own behalf. Assistive devices such as braces, medical issue boots, and wheelchairs have been confiscated and not provided to those requiring them for proper function of their extremities or movement from location to location. Adequate pain medication is routinely withheld.
All residents are denied activities that would be conducive to good mental health such as an opportunity to engage in creative work or crafts which are allowed those in the general population of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice and only denied to residents of death row, including those who have nearly perfect conduct records. They are further denied access to television. These activities were allowed until recently. Some men escaped from Ellis, as a consequence of their conduct - not the conduct of the current residents of death row at Polunsky, all previous activities that actually provided the residents with an incentive to improve their conduct so as to be able to engage in such activities, have been curtailed. It should be noted that the residents of death row purchase the materials with which to do crafts from the commissary operated by the Texas Department of Criminal Justice which provides money for the operation of the prison system. The men then were able to sell their work and spend the money paid for the completed craft project at the commissary, which actually recirculates the money again into the income of TDCJ. There is no security reason for denial of this activity. Furthermore, when a resident attempts to design his own craft activity, it is destroyed because using shoe strings or thread or plastic lids to make a craft is deemed using the item for a purpose other than the one originally intended. This is cruel and an absurd abuse of authority.
The residents of death row are thwarted in their attempts to pursue their administrative appeals as these appeals are mislaid either accidentally or intentionally or by there being a denial of the right to pursue their administrative appeal to conclusion due to action designed to delay or circumvent the administrative process.
Access to religious literature and other religious objects is denied in an indiscriminate manner. Those on death row are also denied the right to attend a religious service. No religious service is available for them to attend. Some are denied access to a representative of their faith as a spiritual adviser. In regard to adequacy of food, food that is Halal or Kosher is being exposed to pork grease.
The mail room is one of the worst situations for those men on death row. Entire publications are being withheld because the newspaper or magazine contains one article that the particular person screening the mail found unacceptable without applying the written standard as set out in Department regulations. Correspondence is very, very frequently mishandled. There is an ongoing retaliatory process to prevent some residents from sending or receiving their mail or to delay receipt of their mail unnecessarily. The amount of postage actually physically permitted each individual has been unduly and unreasonably curtailed. Access to postage at all has also been unreasonably curtailed. Legal mail has been opened before being delivered and has been read. Outgoing legal mail has been read. There is no justification for denial of access to television. Television was available until death row was moved to the Polunsky Unit. Charitable groups have offered to donate televisions, there is an empty rack for holding a television in the day room, but no television. There is no valid security reason for denying access to the educational and recreational benefits of television. No other residents of penal institutions in Texas are denied televisions. This, on occasion, denies access to information that would be beneficial in regard to their legal defense.
The opportunity to work in a job in the Department of Criminal Justice is now suspended. That suspension needs to be ended. Other men found guilty of murder who are in the general population are permitted to work. This would be a very strong incentive for the men to maintain good conduct. Many, if not most, men on death row would be eager to have an opportunity to perform work. This would reduce the cost of maintaining their pod. They would willingly clean their pod themselves. They would maintain their own living area better than it is now cleaned.
Giving any person who is incarcerated incentives for good conduct is going to result in fewer disciplinary problems. Treating people fairly and with decent concern for their health and safety and emotional needs will result in a group that is easier to discipline. Those who do not respect the opportunity, then deserve to have opportunities denied.
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Post by rayozz on Jul 22, 2012 5:44:45 GMT -6
He filed that some time ago. I know his appeals are reaching an end. Can you execute a person when they have still have a court case before the courts?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2012 6:07:47 GMT -6
Well Texas allowed DR inmates to work until 5 of them tried to escape and one did. I suspect the living conditions they are under are a result of this event.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2012 6:19:19 GMT -6
He filed that some time ago. I know his appeals are reaching an end. Can you execute a person when they have still have a court case before the courts? I think Whitaker is in the federal system now after completing his state appeals. I think the only appeal he has is his lawyer was incompetent. Despite Whitaker Senior paying full freight for the defense the lawyer didn't hire a second chair and according to Whitaker mishandled plea deal negotiations. I think the other point Whitaker is arguing is that his lawyer provided an insufficient defense during sentencing. I would suspect the middle class white boy from the model family simply gave his lawyer very little to play with.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2012 6:25:17 GMT -6
He filed that some time ago. I know his appeals are reaching an end. Can you execute a person when they have still have a court case before the courts? To answer your question directly; I don't know in the case of a civil suit. I know it is problematic to execute an inmate under multiple death sentences ( not for killing more then one person in a single incident but involving oneself in more then one incident (eg Bundy was sentenced to death for the murder of Kimberley leach and the Chi Omega case) ) but I think it was done in Bundys case. How as it is a class action it wouldn't kill the suit, I would imagine they will just need a new leaf plaintiff.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2012 21:58:44 GMT -6
I don't care what they get or don't get. I think Texas DR is how every prison in the US should be run...
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Post by fuglyville on Oct 30, 2012 8:06:29 GMT -6
If his allegations are true, he certainly has a case. Even those on death row has certain rights, and their actions are never an excuse for denial of those rights.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 30, 2012 13:49:05 GMT -6
If his allegations are true, he certainly has a case. Even those on death row has certain rights, and their actions are never an excuse for denial of those rights. True, then the money from the law suit can cover their executions, they are still on DR for excessive heinous crimes of denying the innocent victims constitutional rights to life which the victims have been denied forever by them. Who else should benefit from the law suit money fugly?
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Post by fuglyville on Oct 30, 2012 16:44:02 GMT -6
If his allegations are true, he certainly has a case. Even those on death row has certain rights, and their actions are never an excuse for denial of those rights. True, then the money from the law suit can cover their executions, they are still on DR for excessive heinous crimes of denying the innocent victims constitutional rights to life which the victims have been denied forever by them. Who else should benefit from the law suit money fugly? If they do win, I guess that's up to them. If they for some reason can't accept the money personally, then I guess Amnesty International or the ACLU needs whatever support they can get. What's most important, anyhow, is to see the inmates as human beings. The fact that they may have committed horrible acts, is never a justification for inhumane and/or cruel treatment. Their human rights are just as important as anyone else's - and if there is any truth to his allegations, heads should roll(figuratively speaking) in the TDCJ.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 30, 2012 16:54:57 GMT -6
True, then the money from the law suit can cover their executions, they are still on DR for excessive heinous crimes of denying the innocent victims constitutional rights to life which the victims have been denied forever by them. Who else should benefit from the law suit money fugly? If they do win, I guess that's up to them. If they for some reason can't accept the money personally, then I guess Amnesty International or the ACLU needs whatever support they can get. What's most important, anyhow, is to see the inmates as human beings. The fact that they may have committed horrible acts, is never a justification for inhumane and/or cruel treatment. Their human rights are just as important as anyone else's - and if there is any truth to his allegations, heads should roll(figuratively speaking) in the TDCJ. If they do win guess they owe the victims, all the funeral cost, financial cost occurred by losing a dad, or mother main support as well as for childrens college funds. Do not forget many on DR killed more then one victim.... not to mention a lifetime of pain and suffering ( cruel and unusual)for the rest of the faimilies, their lives on the irrational heinous loss's of loved ones suffered. Aww" did you ever think of them at all? Heck no !!!
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Post by Stormyweather on Oct 30, 2012 17:32:33 GMT -6
If his allegations are true, he certainly has a case. Even those on death row has certain rights, and their actions are never an excuse for denial of those rights. Pulled at your little heart strings, eh? I would say that those that they murdered had every right to live. Then these thugs wouldn't be under these "horrible" conditions. I think I've heard many antis say lock them up and throw away the key "so to speak". So this part shouldn't bother a reasonalbe anti. Oh, I forgot you have a certain soft spot for murderers. Texas is probably so strict because of the attempted escape in 1998. www.nytimes.com/1998/11/28/us/texas-death-row-inmate-pulls-off-escape.htmlFortunately the one guy that escaped, Martin E. Gurule, was found drowned in a creek. www.nytimes.com/1998/12/04/us/death-row-escapee-found-dead.html
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Post by Stormyweather on Oct 30, 2012 17:33:33 GMT -6
Well Texas allowed DR inmates to work until 5 of them tried to escape and one did. I suspect the living conditions they are under are a result of this event. I think they were also allowed to visit each other.
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Post by Californian on Oct 30, 2012 17:54:26 GMT -6
He filed that some time ago. I know his appeals are reaching an end. Can you execute a person when they have still have a court case before the courts?It's a civil, not a crimnal, case. So, the answer is "yes." The administrator or executor of his estate can continue the suit, however. (as if)
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Post by Potassium_Pixie on Oct 31, 2012 10:56:03 GMT -6
Its a prison, not a luxury 5-star hotel. What the hell were they gonna expect?
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Post by starbux on Nov 3, 2012 3:40:08 GMT -6
He filed that some time ago. I know his appeals are reaching an end. Can you execute a person when they have still have a court case before the courts? Yes because it's a civil tort and has no baring on basting this turkey.
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Post by Californian on Nov 3, 2012 7:35:35 GMT -6
Yes because it's a civil tort and has no baring on basting this turkey. Maybe we can whack him on Thanksgiving so we all have something to be thankful for!
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Post by SubSurfCPO(ret) on Nov 3, 2012 7:54:36 GMT -6
Yes because it's a civil tort and has no baring on basting this turkey. Maybe we can whack him on Thanksgiving so we all have something to be thankful for! I am partial to luau's and luau pig - seems fitting in this case.
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Post by starbux on Nov 3, 2012 14:14:26 GMT -6
This lawsuit is a bunch of nonsense. Unfortunately, the way civil courtsare in this country, I will not be surprised if they win. Non Death row inmates have already won lawsuits requiring prisoners to be allowed to go back and forth between their cells during the day. They have sued and won for ridiculous items such as not having crunchy peanut butter or having adequate athletic shoes to play basket ball. This will be one more erosion to the criminal justice system. If I had my way I would have them shackled to the wall.
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Post by starbux on Nov 3, 2012 14:19:15 GMT -6
"there is no reason to assume that all are “custody risks” when they have shown no signs of being such." Huh??? What about the reason that they are in DR in the first place? They already proved that they are a violent murder what more do you need?
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Nov 4, 2012 7:10:31 GMT -6
That pig looks delicious. I love a hog roast
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Post by starbux on Nov 4, 2012 14:53:43 GMT -6
True, then the money from the law suit can cover their executions, they are still on DR for excessive heinous crimes of denying the innocent victims constitutional rights to life which the victims have been denied forever by them. Who else should benefit from the law suit money fugly? If they do win, I guess that's up to them. If they for some reason can't accept the money personally, then I guess Amnesty International or the ACLU needs whatever support they can get. What's most important, anyhow, is to see the inmates as human beings. The fact that they may have committed horrible acts, is never a justification for inhumane and/or cruel treatment. Their human rights are just as important as anyone else's - and if there is any truth to his allegations, heads should roll(figuratively speaking) in the TDCJ. Not all lawsuits involve a large payout. This type of suit is not for money but to have a court rule on an interest of law. So if they win, its not money, its that the TDOJ will have to kiss their a$$ more and treat these cuddly little "kittens" with kindness and respect. When they deserve to be thrown in a cold dungeon shackled to the walls until their X-Day. I know I know you will respond all these human beings blah blah did bad things but we should treat them with kindness blah blah blah. My kindness to them is a quick painless death
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Post by Moonbeam on Nov 4, 2012 15:10:16 GMT -6
If they do win, I guess that's up to them. If they for some reason can't accept the money personally, then I guess Amnesty International or the ACLU needs whatever support they can get. What's most important, anyhow, is to see the inmates as human beings. The fact that they may have committed horrible acts, is never a justification for inhumane and/or cruel treatment. Their human rights are just as important as anyone else's - and if there is any truth to his allegations, heads should roll(figuratively speaking) in the TDCJ. Not all lawsuits involve a large payout. This type of suit is not for money but to have a court rule on an interest of law. So if they win, its not money, its that the TDOJ will have to kiss their a$$ more and treat these cuddly little "kittens" with kindness and respect. When they deserve to be thrown in a cold dungeon shackled to the walls until their X-Day. I know I know you will respond all these human beings blah blah did bad things but we should treat them with kindness blah blah blah. My kindness to them is a quick painless death Absolutely !!!!
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Post by fuglyville on Nov 5, 2012 6:57:32 GMT -6
If they do win, I guess that's up to them. If they for some reason can't accept the money personally, then I guess Amnesty International or the ACLU needs whatever support they can get. What's most important, anyhow, is to see the inmates as human beings. The fact that they may have committed horrible acts, is never a justification for inhumane and/or cruel treatment. Their human rights are just as important as anyone else's - and if there is any truth to his allegations, heads should roll(figuratively speaking) in the TDCJ. Not all lawsuits involve a large payout. This type of suit is not for money but to have a court rule on an interest of law. So if they win, its not money, its that the TDOJ will have to kiss their a$$ more and treat these cuddly little "kittens" with kindness and respect. When they deserve to be thrown in a cold dungeon shackled to the walls until their X-Day. I know I know you will respond all these human beings blah blah did bad things but we should treat them with kindness blah blah blah. My kindness to them is a quick painless death The fact remains that they have the right to be treated humanely, and in accordance with human rights and the constitution. If the TDCJ can't deal with this - and they've obviously failed miserably -someone should take responsibility. If correctional officers can't deal with inmates in a humane and respectful manner, they're unfit for the job.
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Post by Californian on Nov 5, 2012 7:13:56 GMT -6
The fact remains that they have the right to be treated humanely, and in accordance with human rights and the constitution. If the TDCJ can't deal with this - and they've obviously failed miserably -someone should take responsibility. If correctional officers can't deal with inmates in a humane and respectful manner, they're unfit for the job. You're assuming facts not in evidence, moron. Any fantastic allegations can be made in a complaint in civil court-and often are, as in this case. Your knowledge of civil law is just as off-target as your pitiful bleatings on behalf of vicious thugs who will remain dangerous until the day they die.
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Post by whitediamonds on Nov 5, 2012 7:43:30 GMT -6
Not all lawsuits involve a large payout. This type of suit is not for money but to have a court rule on an interest of law. So if they win, its not money, its that the TDOJ will have to kiss their a$$ more and treat these cuddly little "kittens" with kindness and respect. When they deserve to be thrown in a cold dungeon shackled to the walls until their X-Day. I know I know you will respond all these human beings blah blah did bad things but we should treat them with kindness blah blah blah. My kindness to them is a quick painless death The fact remains that they have the right to be treated humanely, and in accordance with human rights and the constitution. If the TDCJ can't deal with this - and they've obviously failed miserably -someone should take responsibility. If correctional officers can't deal with inmates in a humane and respectful manner, they're unfit for the job. How did TDCJ fail obviously as you stated? Facts? You automatically take the criminals side without any proven facts. Oh wait" do not forget they are all mentally incompetent, after incarcerated. It may be all delusional.
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Post by Stormyweather on Nov 5, 2012 8:39:04 GMT -6
Not all lawsuits involve a large payout. This type of suit is not for money but to have a court rule on an interest of law. So if they win, its not money, its that the TDOJ will have to kiss their a$$ more and treat these cuddly little "kittens" with kindness and respect. When they deserve to be thrown in a cold dungeon shackled to the walls until their X-Day. I know I know you will respond all these human beings blah blah did bad things but we should treat them with kindness blah blah blah. My kindness to them is a quick painless death The fact remains that they have the right to be treated humanely, and in accordance with human rights and the constitution. If the TDCJ can't deal with this - and they've obviously failed miserably -someone should take responsibility. If correctional officers can't deal with inmates in a humane and respectful manner, they're unfit for the job. How do you know any of this is a fact? They already committed a murder so why would lying bother them?
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Post by Stormyweather on Nov 5, 2012 9:05:06 GMT -6
I was going to edit to ad but I'll just write it underneath. Let's take Roger Keith Coleman of Virginia who lied all the way to his execution. His last words were "“An innocent man is going to be murdered tonight. When my innocence is proven, I hope Americans will realize the injustice of the death penalty as all other civilized countries have.” - Roger Coleman’s last words before he was executed by the state of Virginia May 20, 1992 .
Well now we know that was a big fat lie!
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Post by starbux on Nov 6, 2012 2:11:43 GMT -6
From Wiki
"Roger Keith Coleman (November 1, 1958 – May 20, 1992) was a Grundy, Virginia, coal miner convicted and executed for the murder of his sister-in-law, Wanda McCoy. Coleman's case drew national and worldwide attention before and after his execution because of his repeated claims of innocence and support from the anti death-penalty movement. In 2006, Virginia Governor Mark Warner announced that recently re-examined DNA evidence had conclusively proven Coleman's guilt."
"Coleman had been previously convicted of attempted rape" "Blood found on Coleman's clothes was McCoy's blood type" "A fellow prisoner maintained that Coleman had privately confessed the crime to him"
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Post by starbux on Nov 6, 2012 3:11:10 GMT -6
Not all lawsuits involve a large payout. This type of suit is not for money but to have a court rule on an interest of law. So if they win, its not money, its that the TDOJ will have to kiss their a$$ more and treat these cuddly little "kittens" with kindness and respect. When they deserve to be thrown in a cold dungeon shackled to the walls until their X-Day. I know I know you will respond all these human beings blah blah did bad things but we should treat them with kindness blah blah blah. My kindness to them is a quick painless death The fact remains that they have the right to be treated humanely, and in accordance with human rights and the constitution. If the TDCJ can't deal with this - and they've obviously failed miserably -someone should take responsibility. If correctional officers can't deal with inmates in a humane and respectful manner, they're unfit for the job. I dont know why I am bothering to respond to you. You are just a a forum troll. They are treated humane, and that does not mean that they are treated like free adults. Last I checked they get a climate controlled cell, three meals a day and exercise. They have access to write sympathetic pen pals such as yourself. Prison is a systematic institution for the handling of people who have for fitted their rights to live in free society. They forfitted them the instance they were convicted of their crimes. The whole point of sending them to prison is to punish them for their crimes. Prison is not supposed to be a pleasant experience. It is where society sends adults to their room when they act like children and can't behave. It is the timeout corner for criminals. It is supposed to be a place where criminals should not want to return to. Guards are supposed to treat them in a very neutral manner showing no emotion. The reason for this is that the CO's must maintain positive control at all times. Again I do not knowy I am wasting my time but there it is. If you can't come up with something more than treating them with dignity and respect then don't waist your time replying. Everyone on this forum gets it. We understand that you have a love for these felons. Everyone has heard you before. Yes I konw you want to spew out your BS but why don't you do yourself a favor Fugly and find somewhere else to troll. I think we have heard you enough.
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Post by Felix2 on Nov 6, 2012 5:32:14 GMT -6
From Wiki "Roger Keith Coleman (November 1, 1958 – May 20, 1992) was a Grundy, Virginia, coal miner convicted and executed for the murder of his sister-in-law, Wanda McCoy. Coleman's case drew national and worldwide attention before and after his execution because of his repeated claims of innocence and support from the anti death-penalty movement. In 2006, Virginia Governor Mark Warner announced that recently re-examined DNA evidence had conclusively proven Coleman's guilt." "Coleman had been previously convicted of attempted rape" "Blood found on Coleman's clothes was McCoy's blood type" "A fellow prisoner maintained that Coleman had privately confessed the crime to him" Two of the three issues you mention are not relevant in any way towards establishing guilt. If he did commit a previous rape it alone does not make him guilty of murder, it is nothing more than an indicator that he might be pre disposed that way. As for the so called comments of fellow prisoners, it was established a long time back that the US had a problem relying on such so called disclosures and there were cases where felons were using such information (alleged conversations and admissions) to get reductions on their own sentences of favorable treatment. You simply cannot allow it as reliable given its source. The issue of the womans blood on his clothing if correct seems to be the only indicator that may establish guilt particularly if he said he was not rpesent etc. In the last analogy you have simply poresented one relevant point and not three by way of supporting your view as to his guilt.
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