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Post by Sandoval on Dec 11, 2005 17:51:20 GMT -6
When when she be executed? Does anyone know?
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Post by Dave on Dec 11, 2005 17:56:09 GMT -6
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Post by Sandoval on Dec 11, 2005 18:03:09 GMT -6
Thanks for the link, the site if very helpful.
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Post by Dave on Dec 11, 2005 18:04:29 GMT -6
Your welcome ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Sandoval on Dec 11, 2005 18:06:42 GMT -6
Just wondering does New Jersey still use the DP? Your welcome ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Dave on Dec 11, 2005 18:22:37 GMT -6
It's on the books but if our prosecuter has his way it wo'nt be for long. He wrote governer Codey a letter urging him to do away with the DP in New Jersey. One things for sure if the prosecuter does'nt support it he sure as hell wo'nt seek it on anyone. Which sucks because there have been some cases right here in South Jersey where I live that merrit a death sentance. One I recall a kid who I went to high school with and a group of his friends murdered a chinease food delivery man. They ordered some food from this place called the Wall it's on Main Street in Millville near my old highschool. When the dude from the Wall came to their place to deliver the food they shot him to death took his money and the food and went inside and started eating the food he delivered truly sick. The ring leader of the whole thing got 30 years but still thats not enough in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2005 12:46:47 GMT -6
I've seen "other" photos of Mrs. Routier; where she's dressed casually. But honestly, I think the TDCJ mug, ...captures her (type) perfectly!
Talk about a picture being worth a thousand words! :-)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2005 22:36:13 GMT -6
When when she be executed? Does anyone know? It won't be for a number of years. She just filed her Federal Habeas petition in the US District Court for the Western District of Texas on November 29. www.fordarlieroutier.org
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Post by bryan on Dec 26, 2005 23:15:55 GMT -6
When when she be executed? Does anyone know? It won't be for a number of years. She just filed her Federal Habeas petition in the US District Court for the Western District of Texas on November 29. www.fordarlieroutier.orgconsequences i love you bro ![:-*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/kiss.png)
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Post by cynthiak on Dec 26, 2005 23:16:58 GMT -6
Fry her!
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Post by rj on Dec 27, 2005 11:37:10 GMT -6
This woman is totally ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2005 18:05:24 GMT -6
It won't be for a number of years. She just filed her Federal Habeas petition in the US District Court for the Western District of Texas on November 29. www.fordarlieroutier.orgconsequences i love you bro ![:-*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/kiss.png) Back at you, bro, but I'm glad Mrs. (Till) Mobley is no longer around to see that caption you have under her son's picture!
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Post by bryan on Dec 27, 2005 18:21:06 GMT -6
consequences i love you bro ![:-*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/kiss.png) Back at you, bro, but I'm glad Mrs. (Till) Mobley is no longer around to see that caption you have under her son's picture! yea well, she'd be lying if she wasn't ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by sweethonesty on Dec 29, 2005 19:46:42 GMT -6
Routier is a waste of air in my opinion!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2005 14:16:54 GMT -6
There was something on A & E about her case and it was sickening to watch ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png)
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Post by Elric of Melnibone on Dec 30, 2005 18:36:15 GMT -6
Routier is a sick monster and deserves what happens to her. She killed her children for money and was caught. That is the only reason she is remorseful.
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Post by sweethonesty on Dec 30, 2005 20:57:20 GMT -6
in most cases its about the "money"
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Post by hrhofmonaco on Jan 1, 2006 14:01:05 GMT -6
I took a leisurely cruise thru the file {TDJ/DR), pulling up names at random and am nauseated at what kind of people are out there. What do you think: are people born bad? Products of their environment? I'm truly saddened and depressed today.
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Post by sweethonesty on Jan 1, 2006 17:43:38 GMT -6
Babies are not born bad. Their are bad parents!
Children are products of their environment, in my opinion. Your children are what you put into them! You set them up to succeed in life, you set them up with high standards and goals in life.
Our children are the future!
Some people go around blaming others for their misfortunes. I'm sick of people expecting others to bail them out. People need to get off their lazy butts and do what i did, and work and go to college.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2006 21:14:40 GMT -6
I am neither of the belief that she is guilty nor am I of the belief that she is not , and that in it self to me constitutes a need to re-examine all the details. I am not alone in these thoughts . I have examined this case in depth and I find very little that would convince me beyond doubt of her innocence or for that matter her guilt, If in fact she is gulty and it can be proven legitinately then she must pay the price as per the laws of the state. there are so many dark areas in this case that seem to be skimmed over or withheld that need to be bought to the surface in a just manner before a persons life is diminished ,possibly, unjustly. i ,as all others in this forum, were not present at the time of the offence nor are we experts in the field of criminology so there for we must be carefull not to pass jusdgement so quickly. When you browse through the in mates currently incarcerated in the Texs penal system it is interesting to note the number of offences concerning capital , 1st and 2nd degree murders which have not recieved the death penalty and some not even lfe. There are also cases where the offence have been proven beyond doubt and appears to be worsre than the routiers case which have not recieved the death penalty? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) May be those of you in this forum you may be able to explain to me why the inconsistancy in judgments? There have been too many cases where either the death penalty had been dropped due to new evidence ( most common recently DNA) or executions had taken place only to find the person was infact innocent of the crime. The sad thing about all this is the leagal system, It appears they treat it as game of win and lose rather than a need to work jointly to establish the truth. After veiwing a number of cases there seems to be a common elliment and that is a flaw in the legal system and the methods used to gain convictions. Again I emphisise that I am not for nor against the death penalty ( each case should be judged on its merrits and severity ) those that commit crimes knowing the penalty which exists in that state must also accept consiquences.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2006 13:21:29 GMT -6
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Post by Charlene on Jan 3, 2006 13:34:27 GMT -6
Interesting; they have a photo of Susan Eubanks - don't think I have seen her before. ![](http://www.womenofdeathrow.com/0908bb40.jpg) Susan Eubanks Shot her four sons to death, then shot herself in the stomach. I know one of her ex-husband's, the father of her oldest son, Brandon Armstong, whom she murdered. Brandon's dad John told me that Brandon told him that his mom was trying to get him to lie about something and his dad offered to buy him a ticket to come home to Texas that night. Brandon said “No Dad, I can’t do that. I have my brothers here and I don’t want to leave them.” Who could have known what horrors would happen the very next day? Look at these gorgeous babies she killed. ![](http://www.murdervictims.com/images/BrighamEubanks.jpg) Brigham Eubanks ![](http://www.murdervictims.com/images/matthew.jpg) Matthew Eubanks ![](http://www.murdervictims.com/images/AustinEubanks2.jpg) Austin Eubanks ![](http://www.murdervictims.com/images/Brandon_football.jpg) Brandon Armstrong I cannot look at these pictures without crying.
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Post by kevinitaly on Jan 3, 2006 14:33:50 GMT -6
This seems definitely an ANTI site. It cites an article about why Mothers Kill Their Children that talks about post-partum depression, mood swings, mental illness etc. etc. Many informations here anyway
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2006 18:54:04 GMT -6
Thanks fpr that.. Iam niether pro nor antis regarding this case . It is ok to throw up other cases where unfortunatley children have been involved but we must look at each case seperatley and judge it on its merrits. Maintaing the focus on the Routier Case, I have yet to see a solid motive and evidence that suggests she either did it or didnt. the whole case is really quite a circus of errors, sloppy police work and with hoding of evidence and contradiction of police information. the lead investigators quoteing of the 5th amendment so as not to givee further sevidence the botched up trial records the fact that the lead investgators son was indirectly implicated due to his criminal background Added to all this is the speed at which a conviction was made. bassically every thing about this case does not add up,,, I would love to see this case bought to an end fairly and justly so that the poor kids can rest in piece and the exceution of possibly an innocent person is avoided.
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Post by Amy on Jan 3, 2006 19:03:52 GMT -6
There is a link to a message board that is full of names from CCADP.... I think it is safe to say it is an anti site. Well, maybe anti isn't exactly right either ;D
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Post by Kay on Jan 3, 2006 20:41:15 GMT -6
Charlene, Those pictures made me cry too. How could any mother murder their babies. I'll never, ever understand ![:'(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cry.png)
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Post by Amy on Jan 3, 2006 21:07:26 GMT -6
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Post by Kay on Jan 3, 2006 21:17:07 GMT -6
Thank you Amy, for the link.
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Post by RickZ on Jan 4, 2006 7:18:47 GMT -6
Interesting; they have a photo of Susan Eubanks - don't think I have seen her before. Shot her four sons to death, then shot herself in the stomach. I know one of her ex-husband's, the father of her oldest son, Brandon Armstong, whom she murdered. Brandon's dad John told me that Brandon told him that his mom was trying to get him to lie about something and his dad offered to buy him a ticket to come home to Texas that night. Brandon said “No Dad, I can’t do that. I have my brothers here and I don’t want to leave them.” Who could have known what horrors would happen the very next day? The older brother, Brandon, is a true hero. God bless him.
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Post by happygrandmab on Jan 4, 2006 14:31:01 GMT -6
ZAMBO WROTE:
a jury of her peers found her to be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. a judge sentenced her to death.
there are variables in all things humans are involved in because humans, their perceptions, interpretations, abilities and comprehension differ. in a courtroom, the judge, prosecutor, defense attorney, jury, and jurisdiction all bring variables which differ from courtroom to courtroom.
also, the evidence or lack of it and what can and cannot be proven vary from case to case, thereby resulting in different end results.
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