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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2011 14:38:30 GMT -6
Even though they know there is a death penalty in their state.I can state the obvious-wont get caught-etc-ect,when i think of texas for example they execute the most inmates per year,& yet murders keep happening there,I have a hard time wrapping my head around it,just thinking about the death penalty & imagining sitting on death row going through the process its a scary process to say the least..
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 10, 2011 15:07:56 GMT -6
Murder rates are down at this time in TX, and we still of course have the DP. It makes no sense. We are not the state with the most murders, at least last time I checked that is.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 10, 2011 15:16:37 GMT -6
Maybe the right to carry has kept homicide rates down in TX compared to other states?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2011 15:47:56 GMT -6
Murder rates are down at this time in TX, and we still of course have the DP. It makes no sense. We are not the state with the most murders, at least last time I checked that is. Dont get me wrong whitediamonds i didnt say texas has the most murders per year i said they execute the most per year & still murders are happening thats all.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 10, 2011 16:00:03 GMT -6
Murder rates are down at this time in TX, and we still of course have the DP. It makes no sense. We are not the state with the most murders, at least last time I checked that is. Dont get me wrong whitediamonds i didnt say texas has the most murders per year i said they execute the most per year & still murders are happening thats all. I know I am just going by TX, where I live. We do execute more and yet have less homicide then other states. Threw in one reason maybe why we have less homicides" the right to carry" maybe. Maybe having a DP along with that? Just trying to find some answers as to why some states have less homicide I guess myself. As to the title of your thread, no one will really be able to give an answer only a few patterns. Criminal investigators, shrinks have for decades veen trying to learn why and see if any solutions.
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Post by honkybouffant on Oct 10, 2011 16:02:21 GMT -6
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Post by honkybouffant on Oct 10, 2011 16:03:45 GMT -6
Dont get me wrong whitediamonds i didnt say texas has the most murders per year i said they execute the most per year & still murders are happening thats all. I know I am just going by TX, where I live. We do execute more and yet have less homicide then other states. Threw in one reason maybe why we have less homicides" the right to carry" maybe. Maybe having a DP along with that? You don't have a lower murder rate. You are 18th in the nation overall for murders per 100,000 population. Well into the top half of all states. More murders than New York. More murders than California.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2011 16:13:46 GMT -6
Dont get me wrong whitediamonds i didnt say texas has the most murders per year i said they execute the most per year & still murders are happening thats all. I know I am just going by TX, where I live. We do execute more and yet have less homicide then other states. Threw in one reason maybe why we have less homicides" the right to carry" maybe. Maybe having a DP along with that? Just trying to find some answers as to why some states have less homicide I guess myself. As to the title of your thread, no one will really be able to give an answer only a few patterns. Criminal investigators, shrinks have for decades veen trying to learn why and see if any solutions. Oh your a texan-gr8 i would love to go there one day,i am fascinated of The U.S.A & i would surely go to the walls unit & drive to the polunsky unit I think my fascination comes from our similar living standards here in Australia.-back to the topic. I dont think anyone will be able to answer why people murder anytime soon but i was just getting my thoughts out there & see what anyone elses input might have to say.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 10, 2011 16:16:22 GMT -6
Murder rates in the North East in nine yrs have not declined at all I see........ I see TX did once we had the right to carry.......
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 10, 2011 16:18:35 GMT -6
I know I am just going by TX, where I live. We do execute more and yet have less homicide then other states. Threw in one reason maybe why we have less homicides" the right to carry" maybe. Maybe having a DP along with that? You don't have a lower murder rate. You are 18th in the nation overall for murders per 100,000 population. Well into the top half of all states. More murders than New York. More murders than California. This does not answer why people murder as title of thread asked.. by the way.
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Post by honkybouffant on Oct 10, 2011 16:22:24 GMT -6
Murder rates in the North East in nine yrs have not declined at all I see........ I see TX did once we had the right to carry....... Actually the NY murder rate has fallen faster than TX.
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Post by honkybouffant on Oct 10, 2011 16:23:17 GMT -6
You don't have a lower murder rate. You are 18th in the nation overall for murders per 100,000 population. Well into the top half of all states. More murders than New York. More murders than California. This does not answer why people murder as title of thread asked.. by the way. It is relevant to the question of whether the DP acts as a deterrent, which is part of the question being asked. Ostensibly, the answer is no. Big no.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 10, 2011 16:41:19 GMT -6
This does not answer why people murder as title of thread asked.. by the way. It is relevant to the question of whether the DP acts as a deterrent, which is part of the question being asked. Ostensibly, the answer is no. Big no. I knew where you were going with these stats Smart Bear. I believe along with a serious we mean it DP and right to carry makes a great deterrent and has. Homicide keeps going down. When murderers hear others broke into a pawn shop say, and has happened intending to murder the worker, two criminals who had guns ended up dead not the guy behind the counter,making a honest days work for his family did not get carried out in a body bag. Now that does make them think even the murderers if not the DP.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 10, 2011 16:51:18 GMT -6
Murder rates in the North East in nine yrs have not declined at all I see........ I see TX did once we had the right to carry....... Actually the NY murder rate has fallen faster than TX. At the top of your chart your link, regional the North East is consistant going no where on murder rate in the what 9-10 yrs?
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Post by honkybouffant on Oct 10, 2011 17:10:59 GMT -6
Actually the NY murder rate has fallen faster than TX. At the top of your chart your link, regional the North East is consistant going no where on murder rate in the what 9-10 yrs? Neither is the South. Sure, 2010 was a good year (dropped at last below the 6s) but that looks like a blip. and of course, it is higher than the NE for the whole period. Why aren't those gun-toting, hang-em-high cowboys doing better at reducing murder?
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Post by honkybouffant on Oct 10, 2011 17:11:45 GMT -6
It is relevant to the question of whether the DP acts as a deterrent, which is part of the question being asked. Ostensibly, the answer is no. Big no. I knew where you were going with these stats Smart Bear. I believe along with a serious we mean it DP and right to carry makes a great deterrent and has. Homicide keeps going down. When murderers hear others broke into a pawn shop say, and has happened intending to murder the worker, two criminals who had guns ended up dead not the guy behind the counter,making a honest days work for his family did not get carried out in a body bag. Now that does make them think even the murderers if not the DP. Either that or they go in more heavily armed and shoot sooner rather than take a chance.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 10, 2011 17:18:20 GMT -6
I knew where you were going with these stats Smart Bear. I believe along with a serious we mean it DP and right to carry makes a great deterrent and has. Homicide keeps going down. When murderers hear others broke into a pawn shop say, and has happened intending to murder the worker, two criminals who had guns ended up dead not the guy behind the counter,making a honest days work for his family did not get carried out in a body bag. Now that does make them think even the murderers if not the DP. Either that or they go in more heavily armed and shoot sooner rather than take a chance. Not attempted yet to rob a bank or a pawn shop heavily armed would not only stand out, it would be a burden in many ways for the criminal, they think they will not be caught let alone dead themselves.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 10, 2011 17:25:06 GMT -6
At the top of your chart your link, regional the North East is consistant going no where on murder rate in the what 9-10 yrs? Neither is the South. Sure, 2010 was a good year (dropped at last below the 6s) but that looks like a blip. and of course, it is higher than the NE for the whole period. Why aren't those gun-toting, hang-em-high cowboys doing better at reducing murder? It is the legally hang um high cowgals and boys reducing homicide rates who carry sending a loud message to the murderers first and foremost. Can't get um all ..
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Post by honkybouffant on Oct 10, 2011 17:55:52 GMT -6
Neither is the South. Sure, 2010 was a good year (dropped at last below the 6s) but that looks like a blip. and of course, it is higher than the NE for the whole period. Why aren't those gun-toting, hang-em-high cowboys doing better at reducing murder? It is the legally hang um high cowgals and boys reducing homicide rates who carry sending a loud message to the murderers first and foremost. Can't get um all .. But murder stats in dp states are appalling. You ought to be ashamed.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 10, 2011 18:04:12 GMT -6
It is the legally hang um high cowgals and boys reducing homicide rates who carry sending a loud message to the murderers first and foremost. Can't get um all .. But murder stats in dp states are appalling. You ought to be ashamed. No any murder is appalling so we all should be ashame then.
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Post by honkybouffant on Oct 10, 2011 18:08:38 GMT -6
But murder stats in dp states are appalling. You ought to be ashamed. No any murder is appalling so we all should be ashame then. Dp states are particularly bad. Why is that?
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 10, 2011 18:15:15 GMT -6
No any murder is appalling so we all should be ashame then. Dp states are particularly bad. Why is that? We end up with more murderers maybe as simple as that by territory for one maybe? Close to the border added with more poor, uneducated or the drug flow?
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Post by honkybouffant on Oct 10, 2011 18:19:55 GMT -6
Dp states are particularly bad. Why is that? We end up with more murderers maybe as simple as that by territory for one maybe? Close to the border added with more poor, uneducated or the drug flow? Why do dp states have more uneducated people? Is it because only uneducated people support the dp?
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Post by Californian on Oct 10, 2011 18:21:01 GMT -6
We end up with more murderers maybe as simple as that by territory for one maybe? Close to the border added with more poor, uneducated or the drug flow? Look at the 14 states with the lowest murder rates in the chart and tell me what they have in common. Does a light bulb go on?
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 10, 2011 18:21:06 GMT -6
We end up with more murderers maybe as simple as that by territory for one maybe? Close to the border added with more poor, uneducated or the drug flow? Why do dp states have more uneducated people? Is it because only uneducated people support the dp? Ask Perry that question lol
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 10, 2011 18:24:47 GMT -6
We end up with more murderers maybe as simple as that by territory for one maybe? Close to the border added with more poor, uneducated or the drug flow? Look at the 14 states with the lowest murder rates in the chart and tell me what they have in common. Does a light bulb go on? I will a bit later and get back on that, right now shrimp is calling us love shrimp !!!
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Post by honkybouffant on Oct 10, 2011 18:26:53 GMT -6
We end up with more murderers maybe as simple as that by territory for one maybe? Close to the border added with more poor, uneducated or the drug flow? Look at the 14 states with the lowest murder rates in the chart and tell me what they have in common. Does a light bulb go on? No. But I heard a distant recording of "Mammy" by Al Jolson.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 10, 2011 18:50:50 GMT -6
Look at the 14 states with the lowest murder rates in the chart and tell me what they have in common. Does a light bulb go on? I will a bit later and get back on that, right now shrimp is calling us love shrimp !!! Yes, a light bulb went on ....has a whole heck of a lot to do with it.
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Post by whitediamonds on Oct 10, 2011 19:03:31 GMT -6
Look at the 14 states with the lowest murder rates in the chart and tell me what they have in common. Does a light bulb go on? No. But I heard a distant recording of "Mammy" by Al Jolson. Read what the FBI says as far as homicide...are they basing facts on racist views? Also it does make a statement as to the lowest rate of homicide states * your link" along with the FBI's findings must have value. I believe there are many races employed by the FBI also???
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Post by Rev. Agave on Oct 10, 2011 19:41:27 GMT -6
It is undisputable that the more black people you have, the more crime you will have. That is not a racist statement because it is undeniably true. Moreover, such a statement does not in anyway imply that blacks are inferior. The explanation is not biological; it's cultural.
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