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Post by Rev. Agave on Jun 22, 2011 17:24:03 GMT -6
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Post by Californian on Jun 23, 2011 8:27:16 GMT -6
What's she gonna do when they tell her to f*** off, hit them with a ruler? You know, this whole LI thing was started with the best of intentions to give the condemned a relatively easy sendoff. Perhaps it's time to tank the whole idea and just return to the rope or the bullet.
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Post by Rev. Agave on Jun 23, 2011 8:58:41 GMT -6
What's she gonna do when they tell her to f*** off, hit them with a ruler? Perhaps she'll include a photo of herself in her next letter?
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Post by Lauren on Jun 23, 2011 9:11:18 GMT -6
Having read the letter, I basically summarized it to say, "Andrew Grant De Young's victim(s) don't mean anything, and it is okay for him to take a life and not serve his punishment for it, but when the State does it, or medical companies develop drugs for the State, it's the worst thing imaginable."
Was I the only one who got that out of her letter?
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Post by Rev. Agave on Jun 23, 2011 9:27:54 GMT -6
Having read the letter, I basically summarized it to say, "Andrew Grant De Young's victim(s) don't mean anything, and it is okay for him to take a life and not serve his punishment for it, but when the State does it, or medical companies develop drugs for the State, it's the worst thing imaginable." Was I the only one who got that out of her letter? I don't think she addressed the morality of the DP in her letter. She is basically saying that it is hypocritical to the company's policy and standards to sell drugs that they know the customer will use to purposefully kill otherwise healthy people. For what it is worth, she's sort of right. That said, state executions are a sui generis use of the drugs that was probably never considered one way or the other when Cardinal Health wrote its policies, and the company is free to alter or make exceptions to its internal standards without answering to Prejean.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jun 23, 2011 9:54:42 GMT -6
I see it as a passive aggressive personality to the extreme.
Just as I see it as mixing politics with religion is not right, as well as mixing her religious beliefs onto a company with a demand not a question.
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Post by Rev. Agave on Jun 23, 2011 9:58:55 GMT -6
I see it as a passive agressive personality to the extreme. Just as I see it as mixing politics with religion is not right, as well as mixing her religious beliefs onto company with a demand not a question. In all fairness, she is not (directly) trying to impose her religious beliefs on the company. She has made a secular argument by taking the company's policy as it is written and explaining why selling execution drugs violates that policy.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jun 23, 2011 10:05:04 GMT -6
I see it as a passive agressive personality to the extreme. Just as I see it as mixing politics with religion is not right, as well as mixing her religious beliefs onto company with a demand not a question. In all fairness, she is not (directly) trying to impose her religious beliefs on the company. She has made a secular argument by taking the company's policy as it is written and explaining why selling execution drugs violates that policy. Sweet play on words, she was taking the long block as to the DP that is what it is about. Bringing up emplyees, shareholders etc like why? Indirect threat. That is politics...
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Post by Rev. Agave on Jun 23, 2011 10:11:48 GMT -6
In all fairness, she is not (directly) trying to impose her religious beliefs on the company. She has made a secular argument by taking the company's policy as it is written and explaining why selling execution drugs violates that policy. Sweet play on words, she was taking the long block as to the DP that is what it is about. Bringing up emplyees, shareholders etc like why? Indirect threat. That is politics... Of course it is politics. Us arguing in favor of the DP is politics, too. We all, on both sides, tend to make arguments wherever we find them. I don't really blame her for trying or fault her tactics, but the appropriate response would be for Cardinal Health to tell her to get bent or simply toss the letter in the wastebasket.
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Post by whitediamonds on Jun 23, 2011 10:22:31 GMT -6
Sweet play on words, she was taking the long block as to the DP that is what it is about. Bringing up emplyees, shareholders etc like why? Indirect threat. That is politics... Of course it is politics. Us arguing in favor of the DP is politics, too. We all, on both sides, tend to make arguments wherever we find them. I don't really blame her for trying or fault her tactics, but the appropriate response would be for Cardinal Health to tell her to get bent or simply toss the letter in the wastebasket. Well my political opinion is get bent, then toss the letter put the letter .......... thru a paper shredder of course...sweet play on words there
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Post by Potassium_Pixie on Jul 5, 2011 7:26:58 GMT -6
Sister Prejean is just making a fool of herself. She'd be more productive writing to Disney to tell them to save All My Children and One Life To Live.
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Post by RFisher on Jul 23, 2011 16:24:53 GMT -6
Sweet play on words, she was taking the long block as to the DP that is what it is about. Bringing up emplyees, shareholders etc like why? Indirect threat. That is politics... Of course it is politics. Us arguing in favor of the DP is politics, too. We all, on both sides, tend to make arguments wherever we find them. I don't really blame her for trying or fault her tactics, but the appropriate response would be for Cardinal Health to tell her to get bent or simply toss the letter in the wastebasket. Of course, Cardinal Health could have easily said that by executing the prisoner, it ensured the health and life of any of the future victims of the murderer.
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Post by Rev. Agave on Jul 23, 2011 18:46:15 GMT -6
Of course it is politics. Us arguing in favor of the DP is politics, too. We all, on both sides, tend to make arguments wherever we find them. I don't really blame her for trying or fault her tactics, but the appropriate response would be for Cardinal Health to tell her to get bent or simply toss the letter in the wastebasket. Of course, Cardinal Health could have easily said that by executing the prisoner, it ensured the health and life of any of the future victims of the murderer. They could say they are distributing the anti-crime vaccine
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Post by whitediamonds on Jul 23, 2011 19:08:26 GMT -6
Of course, Cardinal Health could have easily said that by executing the prisoner, it ensured the health and life of any of the future victims of the murderer. They could say they are distributing the anti-crime vaccine I can now say I am an anti too. For the anti vaccine
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Post by RFisher on Jul 23, 2011 21:57:15 GMT -6
Of course, Cardinal Health could have easily said that by executing the prisoner, it ensured the health and life of any of the future victims of the murderer. They could say they are distributing the anti-crime vaccine That was pretty good.
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Post by amazonfuneralpyre on Dec 13, 2013 10:55:47 GMT -6
True. Sinister prejean's just a nut-job... If, I were MURDERED in a US state with the DP?!? I, WOULD WANT the DP used.
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Post by whitediamonds on Dec 13, 2013 11:26:46 GMT -6
I find those who idolize her digusting, she is a nut job with manly features to boot.. Scary inside & out.
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Post by Potassium_Pixie on Dec 23, 2013 2:33:05 GMT -6
I think the movie based on her made more people into Pro-DP advocates then Anti-DP advocates. I know that when I watched the movie, the only thing I got out of it was don't kill or you'll be executed.
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Post by deathcub2000 on Jan 17, 2014 23:30:12 GMT -6
You won't see this letter from the good sister:
Local Hardware Store Anywhere, USA
RE: Sale of hammers to murderers
Dear Hardware Store, I write on behalf of Wilma Inthewrongplace , a young mother concerning your sale of a hammer to Billy Badman. This sale was not for the purpose of creating homes by hammering nails but kill people ie crazy people. Hammers, also known as pounders, is approved for nailing boards together. In fact, the manufacturer of the hammer, Martin Hammermaker specifically opposes bashing someone brains out with their hammers. Indeed, Martin states the misuse or hammers for murder is not only improper, but that it cannot ensure safety to John Q. Public on the circumstances in which people who rob, rape, or kill get a hold of our hammer
....You get the point.
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