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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2010 10:59:23 GMT -6
The United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit has affirmed the US District Court's denial of habeas relief to this inmate! This is great news! Now we are hoping for a Denial of Cert from SCOTUS and hoping that in 2011 justice will be done for Bethena and Ron and Beau
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Post by Stormyweather on Oct 26, 2010 11:12:15 GMT -6
Good news.
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Oct 26, 2010 11:21:45 GMT -6
Wonderful news Janet and im praying that justice will now not be far away
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Post by mike5 on Oct 26, 2010 11:52:50 GMT -6
I think they have 90 days in which to appeal. However, they file motions for reconsideration which gives them a little more time and then it is 90 days from the date the motion is denied. If the USSC denies it (they will) they again file motions for reconsideration. However, I don't know if the state of Texas waits for the motion to be denied to set the execution date which takes 90 days the first time around (I think). Let me get out my calculator: 45 days + 90 days + 21 days to respond = 14-21 days to reply + 7 days to 90 days (rare) to deny + another phony motion to reconsider = 60 days + 90-120 days for date of execution = 237 to 357 days to date of execution - I think.
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Post by mike5 on Oct 26, 2010 11:58:39 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2010 12:02:01 GMT -6
I think they have 90 days in which to appeal. However, they file motions for reconsideration which gives them a little more time and then it is 90 days from the date the motion is denied. If the USSC denies it (they will) they again file motions for reconsideration. However, I don't know if the state of Texas waits for the motion to be denied to set the execution date which takes 90 days the first time around (I think). Let me get out my calculator: 45 days + 90 days + 21 days to respond = 14-21 days to reply + 7 days to 90 days (rare) to deny + another phony motion to reconsider = 60 days + 90-120 days for date of execution = 237 to 357 days to date of execution - I think. "another phony motion to reconsider" would be no surprise after what I have seen here with other cases over the last few years, but we can only hope and wait - the 100% guarantee that he can never do that to anyone anywhere ever again, that will be worth it to know that
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Post by Stormyweather on Oct 26, 2010 12:14:46 GMT -6
Maybe next year will be a major clean up of the worst of the worse.
Suzanne Basso Steven Woods
Any others out there who ran out of appeals?
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Post by wrench on Oct 26, 2010 14:05:30 GMT -6
The United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit has affirmed the US District Court's denial of habeas relief to this inmate! This is great news! Now we are hoping for a Denial of Cert from SCOTUS and hoping that in 2011 justice will be done for Bethena and Ron and Beau good news and progress in the right direction. i hope mike5's math is good. the sooner, the better!
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Post by gillypod on Oct 27, 2010 7:00:32 GMT -6
Wonderful, Wonderful News. Janet, my prayers are with you and your family - may your God go with you
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2010 7:11:38 GMT -6
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Post by mike5 on Oct 27, 2010 7:47:55 GMT -6
Who was the ex-fiance, aka, ex-gf, who kept the online diary? I admit I laugh my ass off when he and his loony supporters try to portray him as a "political prisoner."
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Post by Moonbeam on Oct 27, 2010 7:58:20 GMT -6
This seems to have taken forever just to get to this stage. I can't imagine how it must feel to live it and I never want to find out but I hope that you can feel some kind of peace eventually Janet
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Post by SubSurfCPO(ret) on Oct 27, 2010 10:04:13 GMT -6
The United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit has affirmed the US District Court's denial of habeas relief to this inmate! This is great news! Now we are hoping for a Denial of Cert from SCOTUS and hoping that in 2011 justice will be done for Bethena and Ron and Beau Good News Janet! We will keep our fingers crossed for a speedy end to your ordeal (or a speedy as it can be).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2010 10:14:08 GMT -6
Who was the ex-fiance, aka, ex-gf, who kept the online diary? I admit I laugh my ass off when he and his loony supporters try to portray him as a "political prisoner." I'm really not sure about whose on-line diary. The only one I've seen had a "user name" not a real name, and it really had the facts messed up except for one thing - they knew who did it. "loony supporters" - yes they are quite creative if nothing else. He's confessed and bragged about the murders to so many people that I've lost count.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2010 10:23:34 GMT -6
Every bit of support is so precious to us. That at least some people can see that what we want most is for no one else anywhere to ever have to go through this again, at least not because of this murderer, because he has already proven what he will do. Thank you all so much As far as I'm aware, death row has already ensured that... unless he'd be released if he's not killed. But, then, that, IMO, would be our fault. We release most murderers anyway. Still, I wish you some sense of peace.
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Post by mike5 on Oct 27, 2010 10:55:11 GMT -6
Yes, already know that you love murderers!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2010 7:00:55 GMT -6
Naturally. Have you hugged a thug? Does wonders.
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Post by gillypod on Oct 28, 2010 8:38:22 GMT -6
Naturally. Have you hugged a thug? Does wonders. Please WW, I don't think this is appropriate in this thread. Your views are well-known, but in this thread we wish to support Janet and Bethena's family. Can we not be positive for her at this time?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2010 9:17:58 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2010 13:04:20 GMT -6
Naturally. Have you hugged a thug? Does wonders. Please WW, I don't think this is appropriate in this thread. Your views are well-known, but in this thread we wish to support Janet and Bethena's family. Can we not be positive for her at this time? Well, 1) I don't really care what you think is appropriate and 2) note that you skipped right past my words 'still, I wish you some sense of peace' (to Janet) and the response to me from mike5 'yes already know you love murderers' to tell me that my response to mike5 is inappropriate in this thread, 3) I call that BS, 4) how curious that you 'know' my views and philosophies', yet I don't know you even a smidge. And, finally, I am opposed to ALL executions and Janet is well aware of that. Hopefully she is also aware that I wish her no ill will (ever) and absolutely do wish her a sense of peace and a futrue bright with joy (even knowing mostly it's bittersweet). I also wish the same for the vast majority of MVS who will not get a death sentence and execution (or LWOP) and WILL see their loved ones' murderers back on the street, who have to muddle through regardless.
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Post by mike5 on Oct 28, 2010 13:21:39 GMT -6
Please WW, I don't think this is appropriate in this thread. Your views are well-known, but in this thread we wish to support Janet and Bethena's family. Can we not be positive for her at this time? Well, 1) I don't really care what you think is appropriate and 2) note that you skipped right past my words 'still, I wish you some sense of peace' (to Janet) and the response to me from mike5 'yes already know you love murderers' to tell me that my response to mike5 is inappropriate in this thread, 3) I call that BS, 4) how curious that you 'know' my views and philosophies', yet I don't know you even a smidge. And, finally, I am opposed to ALL executions and Janet is well aware of that. Hopefully she is also aware that I wish her no ill will (ever) and absolutely do wish her a sense of peace and a futrue bright with joy (even knowing mostly it's bittersweet). I also wish the same for the vast majority of MVS who will not get a death sentence and execution (or LWOP) and WILL see their loved ones' murderers back on the street, who have to muddle through regardless. My response was to your bullshite. Everyone had something postive to say to Janet or some information to impart. You just keep repeating your same crap. Dressing it up in your usual passsive agressive b.s. doesn't fool anyone. It's not always about You! You! You! and your opposition to the DP.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2010 13:54:33 GMT -6
Well, 1) I don't really care what you think is appropriate and 2) note that you skipped right past my words 'still, I wish you some sense of peace' (to Janet) and the response to me from mike5 'yes already know you love murderers' to tell me that my response to mike5 is inappropriate in this thread, 3) I call that BS, 4) how curious that you 'know' my views and philosophies', yet I don't know you even a smidge. And, finally, I am opposed to ALL executions and Janet is well aware of that. Hopefully she is also aware that I wish her no ill will (ever) and absolutely do wish her a sense of peace and a futrue bright with joy (even knowing mostly it's bittersweet). I also wish the same for the vast majority of MVS who will not get a death sentence and execution (or LWOP) and WILL see their loved ones' murderers back on the street, who have to muddle through regardless. My response was to your bullshite. *fixed* No need to thank me.
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Post by brumsongs on Oct 28, 2010 14:06:02 GMT -6
Wishing the best for people with whom we disagree is a true mark of humanity. And why Lynn and Janet are so well thought of here.
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Post by mike5 on Oct 28, 2010 14:25:27 GMT -6
Please WW, I don't think this is appropriate in this thread. Your views are well-known, but in this thread we wish to support Janet and Bethena's family. Can we not be positive for her at this time? Well, 1) I don't really care what you think is appropriate because I only think of myself and 2) note that you skipped right past my usual lies words 'still, I wish you some sense of peace' while I constantly stick it to you with my thug loving message (to Janet) and the response to me from mike5 'yes already know you love murderers' to tell me that my response to mike5 is inappropriate in this thread, 3) I call that BS on myself, 4) how curious that you 'know' my views and philosophies' but then who doesn't since I'm a broken record, yet I don't know you even a smidge because of the restraining order against me from harassing people on the internet. And, finally, I am opposed to ALL executions because I love murderers and think their lives are worth more than innocent lives and Janet is well aware of that because I've told her a million times. Hopefully she is also aware that I wish her no ill will (ever) and absolutely do wish her a sense of peace and a futrue bright with joy (even knowing mostly it's bittersweet) even though I want the thug who brutally murdered her daughter and two other people to live and enjoy all the privileges of general pop., including the chance to murder again, just because it makes me feel good. I also wish the sa me for the vast majority of MVS who will not get a death sentence and execution (or LWOP) and WILL see their loved ones' murderers back on the street, who have to muddle through regardless and with any luck they too will murder again, giving me more thugs to faun over. *Fixed.* No need to thank me!
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Post by Stormyweather on Oct 28, 2010 15:41:35 GMT -6
Every bit of support is so precious to us. That at least some people can see that what we want most is for no one else anywhere to ever have to go through this again, at least not because of this murderer, because he has already proven what he will do. Thank you all so much As far as I'm aware, death row has already ensured that... unless he'd be released if he's not killed. But, then, that, IMO, would be our fault. We release most murderers anyway. Still, I wish you some sense of peace. This response is not for Lynne but Mike5. Lynne and I have had our disagreements many times on this board but I don't read anything that she wrote indicating that she loved murderers. I don't know how you even read that in her lines. She does state we release most murderers anyway which is true. How does that come out as she loves murderers? I have responded to her at times that doing away with the dp isn't going to make sentences more fair for all murderers other than the fact none will receive the dp. Personally I think murderers will then serve even shorter sentences and more will be released. To me that is a better argument than your nastiness which btw accomplishes what? Turns her into a pro?
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Post by mike5 on Oct 28, 2010 16:12:27 GMT -6
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Post by brumsongs on Oct 28, 2010 16:25:28 GMT -6
Steven Woods- in a society that has the DP, he is most assuredly what it's for. Stormy- Well said. Mike5- Lucretius said nothing human disgusted him. You weren't around then, I suppose.
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Post by Stormyweather on Oct 28, 2010 17:11:07 GMT -6
To me that is a better argument than your nastiness which btw accomplishes what? No, it's not. Now, watch me go back to ignoring you. I didn't know you were ignoring me. Thanks for telling me you give me much to look forward to. You act constipated. I suspect you're not even pro-death penalty. I'll bet you're more anti then Lynne.
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Post by Stormyweather on Oct 28, 2010 17:16:55 GMT -6
Well, 1) I don't really care what you think is appropriate because I only think of myself and 2) note that you skipped right past my usual lies words 'still, I wish you some sense of peace' while I constantly stick it to you with my thug loving message (to Janet) and the response to me from mike5 'yes already know you love murderers' to tell me that my response to mike5 is inappropriate in this thread, 3) I call that BS on myself, 4) how curious that you 'know' my views and philosophies' but then who doesn't since I'm a broken record, yet I don't know you even a smidge because of the restraining order against me from harassing people on the internet. And, finally, I am opposed to ALL executions because I love murderers and think their lives are worth more than innocent lives and Janet is well aware of that because I've told her a million times. Hopefully she is also aware that I wish her no ill will (ever) and absolutely do wish her a sense of peace and a futrue bright with joy (even knowing mostly it's bittersweet) even though I want the thug who brutally murdered her daughter and two other people to live and enjoy all the privileges of general pop., including the chance to murder again, just because it makes me feel good. I also wish the sa me for the vast majority of MVS who will not get a death sentence and execution (or LWOP) and WILL see their loved ones' murderers back on the street, who have to muddle through regardless and with any luck they too will murder again, giving me more thugs to faun over. *Fixed.* I hope you are.
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Post by brumsongs on Oct 28, 2010 17:52:15 GMT -6
I didn't know you were ignoring me. Thanks for telling me you give me much to look forward to. You act constipated. I suspect you're not even pro-death penalty. I'll bet you're more anti then Lynne. Don't put him on us, Stormy- he's one of yours so own it!
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