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Post by blakely on Aug 27, 2005 0:42:00 GMT -6
your not really sure what you said are your Blakely.. Do you? I said "being new to the board here...Im learning how to sipher (Jethro's word not mine) the head of the poster....I was thinking the monkey scratching his head with the "Lets see now ...... am I pro or anti?" was a bit on the smartass side And I responded: "Like I said, I don't know him [dannie]. I just read one of his old posts where he was baiting benty about his grandson, so *f---* him. " So, what is your problem? I think its time to chang the water in your bong dude. I think its time for you to take a reading refresher course dude.
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Post by spur on Aug 27, 2005 2:17:26 GMT -6
Blakely, Blakely, Blackely....you have out witted me in a game of make believe, how bout an equitable solution to us both....a gentlemans agreement if you will.....Ill admit you kicked my ass...you puff up and walk away....everyone thinks your cool and you get to keep all the studliness....deal?
All I ask in return is...leave me alone, I am unable to communicate on your level.
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Post by dannie on Aug 27, 2005 3:09:23 GMT -6
I don\'t know dannie. However, I thought he was trying to say in a not very articulate way, that the antis, especially the more radical ones, claim the person is only being executed b/c s/he is black, i.e., due to racism. They also claim innocence alot. But, this is b/c it is the only way the attorneys can get another crack at an appeal. Thanks blakely. That is exactly what I meant to say. I can see there are many fools on this board who think they are Gods.
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Post by blakely on Aug 27, 2005 7:41:45 GMT -6
Blakely, Blakely, Blackely....you have out witted me in a game of make believe, how bout an equitable solution to us both....a gentlemans agreement if you will.....Ill admit you kicked *I disagree*...you puff up and walk away....everyone thinks your cool and you get to keep all the studliness....deal? Once again, you make absolutely no sense. All I ask in return is...leave me alone, I am unable to communicate on your level. As a rule I stay away from people who are unstable and therefore unpredictable so I will have no problem staying away from you.
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Post by blakely on Aug 27, 2005 7:43:26 GMT -6
Thanks blakely. That is exactly what I meant to say. Oh, shut up. Your remarks to benty were unexcusable.
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Post by happygrandmab on Aug 27, 2005 11:01:16 GMT -6
ihow long is the usual appeal process in texas? About 10 1/5 years. If a defendant doesn't argue a claim when he/she had an opportunity to do so, it's defaulted. The only way to get around default is to argue that it is a claim of factual or actual innocence. That's why everthing is couched in the language of "innocence. " thank you spur and blakely. so that is half the time murderers spend on california death row. what's up with that? california inmates seem to be the most horrendous and are made famous by their crimes. i know there is discussion about changing the appeal process. it really needs changing.
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Post by bryan on Aug 27, 2005 13:58:58 GMT -6
I don\'t know dannie. However, I thought he was trying to say in a not very articulate way, that the antis, especially the more radical ones, claim the person is only being executed b/c s/he is black, i.e., due to racism. They also claim innocence alot. But, this is b/c it is the only way the attorneys can get another crack at an appeal. Thanks blakely. That is exactly what I meant to say. I can see there are many fools on this board who think they are Gods. yes, any there are onlys who are morons, who think they are a race god...i done with you toto "toto, i dont think i am in my lil white farm house anymore, i am in the ghetto where i might get myself shot for acting stupid, or myself"
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Post by dannie on Aug 27, 2005 18:31:42 GMT -6
Thanks blakely. That is exactly what I meant to say. Oh, shut up. Your remarks to benty were unexcusable. Now I really do believe most people here are a bunch of crazies.
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Post by josephdphillips on Aug 27, 2005 19:38:10 GMT -6
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Post by spur on Aug 28, 2005 11:31:35 GMT -6
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Post by happygrandmab on Aug 28, 2005 11:35:16 GMT -6
thank you for your excellent information, as usual
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Post by josephdphillips on Aug 28, 2005 12:40:20 GMT -6
thank you for your excellent information, as usual You're welcome. This is the most important bill in this session of Congress, if you ask me. Everything else should be put on the back burner.
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Post by josephdphillips on Aug 28, 2005 12:44:24 GMT -6
only 15 more shopping days before Newton takes the big dirt nap.....I toured the Mt. View Unit the other day and death row was very quite. And it's not even Christmas! See yoooooou....in Septemmmmmmmmmmm....ber...
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Post by aka on Aug 28, 2005 13:01:10 GMT -6
Freefrances.org has a video interview with Newton where she answers questions about her case. I have to say that I am not convinced of her innocence. The fact that she claimed the life insurance policies so soon after the murders damns her I think.
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Post by spur on Aug 28, 2005 15:00:55 GMT -6
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Post by snowy111 on Aug 28, 2005 15:58:10 GMT -6
this is of particular interest to me for several reasons...one Governor Rick Perry did not have the intestinal fortitude to carry out the wishes of the jury 120 days ago.....two, she will be the 3rd woman executed and the 1st black...but a murderer is a murderer no matter what the color....3rd, I have delt with this convict before......4th....I know someone very well that will over see this as all the recent past dirt naps. Im looking forward to the upcoming sequel as well.... www.tdcj.state.tx.us/statistics/deathrow/drowlist/routier.jpgCant wait till the 14th...a bean bag chair and a bag a cheetoes will give away my excitement. I'm not writing this about about how I think Frances Newton is innocent but why I think she was stayed. If I remember right I think he gave her a stay because it was recommended by the Board of Pardons and Paroles. I think it was 8 to 1 or something like that. With that kind of recommendation I think he was expected to give a temporay stay. I doubt very much if she'll get one this time or if it will be recommended. But I guess we can never tell, can we?
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Post by snowy111 on Aug 28, 2005 16:28:43 GMT -6
this is of particular interest to me for several reasons...one Governor Rick Perry did not have the intestinal fortitude to carry out the wishes of the jury 120 days ago.....two, she will be the 3rd woman executed and the 1st black...but a murderer is a murderer no matter what the color....Im looking forward to the upcoming sequel as well.... www.tdcj.state.tx.us/statistics/deathrow/drowlist/routier.jpgI don't know if I would say Governor doesn't have the intestinal fortitude. Even though it was recommended to Governor Perry that, Kelsey Patterson, get a reprieve by the Texas Board of Pardons the governor didn't do it. We know the reason because this man was a danger to society. The governor didn't want the risk of this man being let out again. There was no doubt of his guilt. The governor was also was recommended to give one to Newton. Newton's, however had nothing to do with being insane. Hers was for retesting the ballistics of the gun. Which by the way came back positive. The testing did match her gun. I said I found her whole story strange. She took out expensive insurance on her children. She admitted to hiding the gun. Just too many things don't make sense. I doubt very much if he'll give her a reprieve unless a miracle happens.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2005 3:35:21 GMT -6
Free Frances Newton? No, that would be naive. I don't know what the people with the www.freefrances.org website think... I would suggest a new trial. She has to be retried and resentenced in an absolutely fair trial. There were some problems with here conviction. Now the prosecutors as well as her attorney should do better.
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Post by eu.ro on Aug 29, 2005 5:38:10 GMT -6
Innocent and Black? My A** That comment was totally uncalled for and disrespectful to anyone who read it . Since you are in Kansas ,you need to click your heels together Dorothy oops I mean Dannie and repeat 3 times " I am a dumba$$ I am a dumba$$ I am a dumba$$ " [/quote] ROTFL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Eminey1 on Aug 29, 2005 5:42:28 GMT -6
This really ticks me off too, people always proclaim their innocence when they know there time is coming to die, the perp should give the families of the victim and their own family some respect, all they are doind is dragging everyone along for the emotional ride with them , they make me sick.
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Post by Michael on Aug 29, 2005 9:10:27 GMT -6
No one would be able to dispute that people have been released from death row (and from prison in general) because their innocence was finally proven. So there are mistakes made in the first place. Even if I was a supporter of the dp I would only support it in cases that don’t have the shadow of a doubt. Executing those whose cases leave us with doubts would always leave us with great risks. After all the pros would still have enough executions to celebrate, there are quite a lot of murderers who have never protested their innocence but have boasted proudly of their crimes.
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Post by beej76 on Aug 29, 2005 9:18:55 GMT -6
Have you heard anything new on this bill? Last I heard, a few key republicans had jumped off support of it, and it looked like it might be dying - but that was quite a while ago.
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Post by josephdphillips on Aug 29, 2005 9:55:22 GMT -6
Have you heard anything new on this bill? Last I heard, a few key republicans had jumped off support of it, and it looked like it might be dying - but that was quite a while ago. Who knows. I wrote my congresshuman and she hasn't replied, and she's a Republican. Passing the bills, merging the two versions and enacting the final cut into law is the right thing to do. We all know members of Congress are loathe to do that. No individual takes a stand in either house unless there's some quid pro quo from someone else. I'll contact the bills' authors and see if I can get some news.
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Post by bryan on Aug 29, 2005 15:09:00 GMT -6
Innocent and Black? My A** That comment was totally uncalled for and disrespectful to anyone who read it . Since you are in Kansas ,you need to click your heels together Dorothy oops I mean Dannie and repeat 3 times " I am a dumba$$ I am a dumba$$ I am a dumba$$ " ROTFL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D for once we agree
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Post by spur on Aug 30, 2005 17:04:42 GMT -6
Free Frances Newton? No, that would be naive. I don't know what the people with the www.freefrances.org website think... I would suggest a new trial. She has to be retried and resentenced in an absolutely fair trial. There were some problems with here conviction. Now the prosecutors as well as her attorney should do better. Gee...I sure hope she gets her chance to prove her innocence...its so unfair...she has only had since 1987 to prove it too!...thats only 18 years...that's only 5 years less than her husband was old (23) and only 11 more years than the 7 year old got to live his life...and only 16 years longer than the 2 year old got to spend on this earth....this is a straight up travesty of justice! Plus, if they would have just given her the life insurence money she could have been able to pay for a better legal defense....this is so wrong on so many levels... Wait a minute...why do you say to free her is naive? If she is innocent she deserves to be set free....if she did it...she also deserves her sentence....there aint no middle....thats like being kinda pregnant.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2005 16:40:49 GMT -6
Gee...I sure hope she gets her chance to prove her innocence...its so unfair...she has only had since 1987 to prove it too!...thats only 18 years...that's only 5 years less than her husband was old (23) and only 11 more years than the 7 year old got to live his life...and only 16 years longer than the 2 year old got to spend on this earth....this is a straight up travesty of justice! Plus, if they would have just given her the life insurence money she could have been able to pay for a better legal defense....this is so wrong on so many levels... Wait a minute...why do you say to free her is naive? If she is innocent she deserves to be set free....if she did it...she also deserves her sentence....there aint no middle....thats like being kinda pregnant. Freeing her without a new trial would be naive! Because there seems to be doubt and there were some strange issues about the Huston criminal laboratory, just retry her. That should have been done much earlier. Just be sure not to blame the wrong person.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2005 12:03:52 GMT -6
lol ;D ;D lol...that seems to be the mood of everybody there says...screw everybody..and you know what, i do it with half the population ;D ;D ;D...well the woman
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Post by billy on Sept 6, 2005 7:05:48 GMT -6
My tip is that she will receive another stay - just you watch !!!
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Post by spur on Sept 8, 2005 16:18:07 GMT -6
My tip is "Rock and Roll" baby...its go time. This should help open the gates on some others locked up in the long process. This will be the first black woman and the 3rd woman who paid there dues in Texas.
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Post by Eminey1 on Sept 8, 2005 16:29:41 GMT -6
Yep she is a gonna people.
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