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Post by justicex84 on Apr 22, 2010 6:08:56 GMT -6
When I think of all the sweet, innocent people who suffer extreme pain and who die every day in this country, then the outpouring of sympathy for cold-blooded killers enrages me. Where is your (expletive deleted) sympathy for the good, the kind and the innocent? This fixation on murderers is a sickness, a putrefaction of the soul. It's the equivalent of someone spending all day mooning and cooing over a handful of human feces. Sick and abnormal.
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Post by josephdphillips on Apr 22, 2010 9:25:08 GMT -6
Some of the antis are murdererphiles but the majority are not. Most of them simply believe we can do better.
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Post by whitediamonds on Apr 22, 2010 9:59:32 GMT -6
Maybe murder in "some" heads, so much murder on TV shows, news, war it has become common place. So much attention on TV like Prison lockup, etc they feel for an individual they see and hear, and murder victims themselves, not family around them cannot speak. I have heard snide remarks toward victims family's, when familys speak of their pain as to the lose of a loved one, and some think they are being drama queens and get over it mentality or they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, or asked of it in some way. See that same group feel for the offender. What the heck is going on? ?? We still have a war going on too, sons/daughters dying and if they have no personal connection to it, it is just life is no realistic awarness of the pain and suffering around them. Like it is all on TV only. I guess some antis want to make this a better world, but cant we place all the positives in areas that are in need instead to make it better? Forgivness is a good quality but come on now, to the worse of the worse. Got better places to use forgivness myself, first inside myself then to others "more deserving" and safe for all of society.
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Post by Rev. Agave on Apr 22, 2010 10:05:17 GMT -6
Some of the antis are murdererphiles but the majority are not. Most of them simply believe we can do better. I agree. Most antis don't really give a darn about the trash on DR. Rather, I think they are more focused on what the DP turns us into. Many antis are also worried about the possibility of juicing an innocent. But if you hang around these boards too much, it is easy to get the false impression that the typical anti writes to murderers and seeks to forgive them. Thankfully, the antis on PTO, CCADP, or who attend candle light vigils do not represent the majority of antis.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2010 10:33:51 GMT -6
Yep, that's me, mooning and cooing over murderers. ;D
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Post by honeyroastedpeanut on Apr 22, 2010 11:57:10 GMT -6
Why do they execute murderers? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy??? The best of the best, the most noble men the planet has ever seen, bravely fighting for and making the ultimate sacrifice in the name of population control. Those good, good murderers. May God protect them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2010 12:50:11 GMT -6
Why do they execute murderers? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy??? The best of the best, the most noble men the planet has ever seen, bravely fighting for and making the ultimate sacrifice in the name of population control. Those good, good murderers. May God protect them. AMEN!
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Post by Grey on Apr 22, 2010 14:47:37 GMT -6
Why do they execute murderers? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy??? The best of the best, the most noble men the planet has ever seen, bravely fighting for and making the ultimate sacrifice in the name of population control. Those good, good murderers. May God protect them.
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Post by Matt on Apr 22, 2010 16:05:54 GMT -6
One thing I've learned here is that you either believe all life is worth preserving, or you don't. If you really believe that, and expect to logically and consistently explain your position, then you have to be an Anti. It's really very simple.
I do not believe this, so it is natural that I am Pro.
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Post by somebody on Apr 26, 2010 14:35:55 GMT -6
One thing I've learned here is that you either believe all life is worth preserving, or you don't. If you really believe that, and expect to logically and consistently explain your position, then you have to be an Anti. It's really very simple. I do not believe this, so it is natural that I am Pro. I think that's a very good summary!
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Post by mike5 on Apr 27, 2010 9:41:03 GMT -6
When I think of all the sweet, innocent people who suffer extreme pain and who die every day in this country, then the outpouring of sympathy for cold-blooded killers enrages me. Where is your (expletive deleted) sympathy for the good, the kind and the innocent? This fixation on murderers is a sickness, a putrefaction of the soul. It's the equivalent of someone spending all day mooning and cooing over a handful of human feces. Sick and abnormal. Morally bankrupt, not very bright, will lie about anything -- are a few apt descriptions. Many of the women and a few of the men seem to be looking for love and sex on death row. How pathetic is that? And when they involve their kids in that crap, as far as I'm concerned, they are unfit parents.
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Post by honeyroastedpeanut on Apr 27, 2010 11:17:07 GMT -6
Morally bankrupt, not very bright, will lie about anything -- are a few apt descriptions. He didn't ask to describe yourself, you moron. ;D
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Post by mike5 on Apr 27, 2010 11:25:31 GMT -6
Morally bankrupt, not very bright, will lie about anything -- are a few apt descriptions. He didn't ask to describe yourself, you moron. ;D I didn't. I'm not a DP opponent, dumbazz. As I said, you creeps will lie about anything.
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Post by honeyroastedpeanut on Apr 27, 2010 11:45:13 GMT -6
He didn't ask to describe yourself, you moron. ;D I didn't. I'm not a DP opponent, dumbazz. As I said, you creeps will lie about anything. I just couldn't resist.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2010 12:24:46 GMT -6
I care for all people, including murderers. I'm sorry if you don't like it.
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Post by halflife1052 on May 22, 2010 15:54:35 GMT -6
I care for all people, including murderers. I'm sorry if you don't like it. At least you are properly apologetic for your position. Seriously, isn't it rather Freudian to be saying "you are sorry" for something that you otherwise profess to support? You do seem to be saying that you care for murderers more. Look at it this way, we aren't really judging him either. We are just trying to expedite the meeting between him/her and their maker so that {insert deity here} can actually judge them.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2010 16:09:01 GMT -6
I care for all people, including murderers. I'm sorry if you don't like it. At least you are properly apologetic for your position. Seriously, isn't it rather Freudian to be saying "you are sorry" for something that you otherwise profess to support? You do seem to be saying that you care for murderers more. Look at it this way, we aren't really judging him either. We are just trying to expedite the meeting between him/her and their maker so that {insert deity here} can actually judge them. I'm not apologizing for my position in the sense that I think it's wrong. Just feeling sorrowful that some people are troubled by my position. In 7 simple words I said "I care for all people, including murderers". How can you possibly read into that that I care for murderers more? For me, I put a value on human life, and that value is infinite. So for me to care about anyone more than others would be impossible.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2010 16:11:19 GMT -6
We all, however, know deep down that it's not wrong to feel this way.
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Post by whitediamonds on May 22, 2010 16:53:31 GMT -6
At least you are properly apologetic for your position. Seriously, isn't it rather Freudian to be saying "you are sorry" for something that you otherwise profess to support? You do seem to be saying that you care for murderers more. Look at it this way, we aren't really judging him either. We are just trying to expedite the meeting between him/her and their maker so that {insert deity here} can actually judge them. I'm not apologizing for my position in the sense that I think it's wrong. Just feeling sorrowful that some people are troubled by my position. In 7 simple words I said "I care for all people, including murderers". How can you possibly read into that that I care for murderers more? For me, I put a value on human life, and that value is infinite. So for me to care about anyone more than others would be impossible. Thats great you care for murderers whats that got to do with the DP?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2010 16:59:09 GMT -6
I'm not apologizing for my position in the sense that I think it's wrong. Just feeling sorrowful that some people are troubled by my position. In 7 simple words I said "I care for all people, including murderers". How can you possibly read into that that I care for murderers more? For me, I put a value on human life, and that value is infinite. So for me to care about anyone more than others would be impossible. Thats great you care for murderers whats that got to do with the DP? Previous posts were bashing on antis who care for death row inmates or writing to death row inmates. I don't understand why pros would demonize people just for caring for others.
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Post by whitediamonds on May 22, 2010 17:04:15 GMT -6
We all, however, know deep down that it's not wrong to feel this way. Your wrong and facts are there sitting on DR. So obviously "all" do not feel that way. They only care for themselves. Feelings are feelings only, solutions to stop some from murdering again are not based on feeling, revenge or judgement of the "person themselves", only the crime they are proven capable of doing and did and continue if opportunity is there to Murder
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Post by whitediamonds on May 22, 2010 17:14:40 GMT -6
Thats great you care for murderers whats that got to do with the DP? Previous posts were bashing on antis who care for death row inmates or writing to death row inmates. I don't understand why pros would demonize people just for caring for others. Not all, but the extremist as all see not just me, go to such extremes they glorify them (DR inmates)attack victims family judge victims families, and all on DR deserve to have lots of money due to the torcher of being in the spot they put themselves in. I do resent this and should be damn ashamed of themselves......One has to believe this to the hilt, or they will judge you and threaten you as well as not want to even debate a differing view... Crazy!!!! If one wants to write and bring some light thru the pen to a DR, I never bashed that,, yet personally I have no interest in writing anyone who has done so much damage all around, past damage decided to take anothers life, just to do so. .
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2010 17:40:20 GMT -6
We all, however, know deep down that it's not wrong to feel this way. Your wrong and facts are there sitting on DR. So obviously "all" do not feel that way. They only care for themselves. Feelings are feelings only, solutions to stop some from murdering again are not based on feeling, revenge or judgement of the "person themselves", only the crime they are proven capable of doing and did and continue if opportunity is there to Murder Reread my post. That's not what I said.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2010 17:42:35 GMT -6
Previous posts were bashing on antis who care for death row inmates or writing to death row inmates. I don't understand why pros would demonize people just for caring for others. Not all, but the extremist as all see not just me, go to such extremes they glorify them (DR inmates)attack victims family judge victims families, and all on DR deserve to have lots of money due to the torcher of being in the spot they put themselves in. I do resent this and should be damn ashamed of themselves......One has to believe this to the hilt, or they will judge you and threaten you as well as not want to even debate a differing view... Crazy!!!! If one wants to write and bring some light thru the pen to a DR, I never bashed that,, yet personally I have no interest in writing anyone who has done so much damage all around, past damage decided to take anothers life, just to do so. . I'm getting to the point where I see no need to debate it. I can honestly say that I will never turn in support of capital punishment.
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Post by whitediamonds on May 22, 2010 17:59:14 GMT -6
Not all, but the extremist as all see not just me, go to such extremes they glorify them (DR inmates)attack victims family judge victims families, and all on DR deserve to have lots of money due to the torcher of being in the spot they put themselves in. I do resent this and should be damn ashamed of themselves......One has to believe this to the hilt, or they will judge you and threaten you as well as not want to even debate a differing view... Crazy!!!! If one wants to write and bring some light thru the pen to a DR, I never bashed that,, yet personally I have no interest in writing anyone who has done so much damage all around, past damage decided to take anothers life, just to do so. . I'm getting to the point where I see no need to debate it. I can honestly say that I will never turn in support of capital punishment. Ditto, I can honestly say I do support the DP. I do not support those who did, from the same fate they gave to others heinously without mercy at all. You know the old saying for the victim they are at peace now, well same for the predator. Well, now that is debatable for the predator
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Post by whitediamonds on May 22, 2010 19:50:31 GMT -6
Your wrong and facts are there sitting on DR. So obviously "all" do not feel that way. They only care for themselves. Feelings are feelings only, solutions to stop some from murdering again are not based on feeling, revenge or judgement of the "person themselves", only the crime they are proven capable of doing and did and continue if opportunity is there to Murder Reread my post. That's not what I said. No you said you were done with debating this, I take a man/women for their word.
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Post by Lady on May 22, 2010 22:16:42 GMT -6
I have attended some candle light vigils , not to support the inmate personally , but to support the inmates family that is left behind . I visited for several years and got to know quite a few family members of various inmates. We all have this "in the same boat " kind of attitude and keep in touch .
I have a friend whose daughters murderer got the DP , and I will be there to support him the day his daughters killer is executed . I can put my anti stance to the side, in order to express compassion for my friend ,who happens to be pro death penalty .
It is just sad for all involved ,whether it is the inmates family or the MVS . Keep in mind I am not talking about the nut job antis who jump on the " He's being killed tonight " bandwagon or those who are stupid enough to marry or fall in love with them .
I don't have much sympathy for the inmates , but I do for their family ,the victim and the MVS .
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Post by mbnorrie on May 23, 2010 1:11:37 GMT -6
Some of the antis are murdererphiles but the majority are not. Most of them simply believe we can do better. for the first time i actually agree with something you've said lol
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Post by halflife1052 on May 23, 2010 9:44:47 GMT -6
Not all, but the extremist as all see not just me, go to such extremes they glorify them (DR inmates)attack victims family judge victims families, and all on DR deserve to have lots of money due to the torcher of being in the spot they put themselves in. I do resent this and should be damn ashamed of themselves......One has to believe this to the hilt, or they will judge you and threaten you as well as not want to even debate a differing view... Crazy!!!! If one wants to write and bring some light thru the pen to a DR, I never bashed that,, yet personally I have no interest in writing anyone who has done so much damage all around, past damage decided to take anothers life, just to do so. . I'm getting to the point where I see no need to debate it. I can honestly say that I will never turn in support of capital punishment. Page three second paragraph "Declare Victory and Move ON"
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Post by Californian on May 23, 2010 11:05:23 GMT -6
I see the majority of antis as good-hearted people who feel instead of think. It's a feel-good attitude that doesn't play well in the real world, though. This of course, includes many on the left.
As to scumpals and murderphiles, I think the majority suffer from hybristophilia.
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