hazel
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Post by hazel on May 16, 2005 15:50:24 GMT -6
Death row inmate dies of natural causes
05/16/2005
Associated Press
John Wesley Jones, an inmate on North Carolina's death row, has died of natural causes in a local hospital, a Department of Correction spokesman said Monday.
Jones, 56, died Sunday night at Wake Medical Center, department spokesman Keith Acree said in a statement.
Jones was convicted of first-degree murder in August 1990 for the shooting death of his son, Charles Edward Meadows, 23, in Maysville. He also received a 20-year sentence for assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill inflicting serious injury and a 10-year sentence for discharging a firearm into an occupied dwelling.
The department said Jones had been on death row since Aug. 16, 1990.
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Post by cynthiak on May 16, 2005 17:21:45 GMT -6
This is what will happen to freak. I will never forgive these idiotic judges for letting him sit in jail so long. I bet if it was one of their family members who was murdered, they would not have issued a stay.
Bastard needs to be executed NOW.
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Post by dio on May 16, 2005 17:28:44 GMT -6
Wonderful news,this makes 3 mutts my fair State has saw off on the highway to he ll
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Post by Felix2 on May 17, 2005 2:08:06 GMT -6
how do you know he has gone to hell? You're only a pro, I think that one is God's shout, not your's, dont you?
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Post by Katyusha on May 17, 2005 7:05:08 GMT -6
Hi Chynthiak.... allow me to ask you about your own case... is there any chance for you to get some closure in the nearer future?
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Post by Dea on May 17, 2005 8:30:20 GMT -6
I agree with you there Cynthiak. Unfortunately, that's what happens when these stupid appeals and stays go on forever.
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Post by cynthiak on May 17, 2005 17:30:15 GMT -6
Hi Chynthiak.... allow me to ask you about your own case... is there any chance for you to get some closure in the nearer future? Yeah, when he is executed.
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Post by Katyusha on May 18, 2005 14:39:21 GMT -6
Yeah, when he is executed. Sure,but you do not know when that will be,do you?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2005 15:38:01 GMT -6
Sure,but you do not know when that will be,do you? Speaking of that..... I have a question that I would like answered honestly, and to the best of ones ability. WHEN is an execution date set? I mean...... A trial is held, and a guilty verdict is handed down, then the criminal is sentenced to death, then what happens? How many appeals do they get, how many years can they drag them out? WHY, exactly DOES it take so long to execute once the final sentence has been handed down? It seems so crazy to me for a convict to be sentenced to death, then 20 - 25 years later he is still alive. What is the problem......they just haven't gotten around to it yet? I'm not being sarcastic here, I honestly don't know. I see hundreds or thousands of inmates sitting on death row and wonder how many have execution dates...or why they don't yet?
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Post by Tozzie on May 18, 2005 22:08:20 GMT -6
Speaking of that..... I have a question that I would like answered honestly, and to the best of ones ability. WHEN is an execution date set? I mean...... A trial is held, and a guilty verdict is handed down, then the criminal is sentenced to death, then what happens? How many appeals do they get, how many years can they drag them out? WHY, exactly DOES it take so long to execute once the final sentence has been handed down? It seems so crazy to me for a convict to be sentenced to death, then 20 - 25 years later he is still alive. What is the problem......they just haven't gotten around to it yet? I'm not being sarcastic here, I honestly don't know. I see hundreds or thousands of inmates sitting on death row and wonder how many have execution dates...or why they don't yet? This is a general answer, some things vary state to state.
When an inmate is sentenced to death the 1st appeal is automatic and mandatory under state law. Then when that appeal is denied it can be appealed to a higher court and the federal courts. There can also be different issued the defendant raises on appeal and in some states they are seprate appeals. The courts are backlogged and it can sometimes take longer than two years for an appeal and decision. multiply that by 4-6 appeals and you arrive at the 12-20 years an inmate spends on dr. Now texas being the good state that they are enacted laws streamlining the appeals process so they have quicker resolution to the issue. The great Republic of California is an anomoly all its own, it takes an average of 5-7 years to get a lawyer assigned to handle the first mandatory appeal then of course the Federal Appeals court is the 9th circuit court of fools so they stay, reverse and throw out convictions like you and I drink water so I think 25 years is the average for a california prisoner to spend on death row. I used to have a website listing all the court filings with dates and dates of rulings for Florida DR inmates I will try and find it again so you can see what the timeline looks like. Then usually when it appears all appeals have been exhausted the prosecutor requests a execution date and a warrant is issued. In some states the judge signs the warrant and in others it is the governor, also some states the warrant is for a period of 1 week and in others the warrant is for one specific day. HTH. appears.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2005 11:45:31 GMT -6
This is a general answer, some things vary state to state.
When an inmate is sentenced to death the 1st appeal is automatic and mandatory under state law. Then when that appeal is denied it can be appealed to a higher court and the federal courts. There can also be different issued the defendant raises on appeal and in some states they are seprate appeals. The courts are backlogged and it can sometimes take longer than two years for an appeal and decision. multiply that by 4-6 appeals and you arrive at the 12-20 years an inmate spends on dr. Now texas being the good state that they are enacted laws streamlining the appeals process so they have quicker resolution to the issue. The great Republic of California is an anomoly all its own, it takes an average of 5-7 years to get a lawyer assigned to handle the first mandatory appeal then of course the Federal Appeals court is the 9th circuit court of fools so they stay, reverse and throw out convictions like you and I drink water so I think 25 years is the average for a california prisoner to spend on death row. I used to have a website listing all the court filings with dates and dates of rulings for Florida DR inmates I will try and find it again so you can see what the timeline looks like. Then usually when it appears all appeals have been exhausted the prosecutor requests a execution date and a warrant is issued. In some states the judge signs the warrant and in others it is the governor, also some states the warrant is for a period of 1 week and in others the warrant is for one specific day. HTH. appears. That was very helpful, however I still have a question. If all appeals have been exhausted at the time that an execution date is set...where does the 'stay' come in? I mean....do they ALL apply or ask for a 'stay' and some get them granted and some don't? I am very ignorant about these issues, so I have lots of questions. I just happen to see people on here saying things like: "so&so is suppose to be executed on Friday, but it 'looks' like he will get a 'stay'." How do they know that...or are they just guessing without any knowledge whatsoever? I'm just curious as to how people KNOW the odds of him being executed, or PROBABLY getting a stay??
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Post by Tozzie on May 19, 2005 17:26:54 GMT -6
That was very helpful, however I still have a question. If all appeals have been exhausted at the time that an execution date is set...where does the 'stay' come in? I mean....do they ALL apply or ask for a 'stay' and some get them granted and some don't? I am very ignorant about these issues, so I have lots of questions. I just happen to see people on here saying things like: "so&so is suppose to be executed on Friday, but it 'looks' like he will get a 'stay'." How do they know that...or are they just guessing without any knowledge whatsoever? I'm just curious as to how people KNOW the odds of him being executed, or PROBABLY getting a stay?? Again, the information is general, but in some cases the prosecutors will ask for the death warrant after the first appeal or after the last state appeal and since the inmate has recourse in other courts they may be granted a stay. Then sometimes the inmates attorney will try last ditch efforts such as mental illness or mental retardation. The defense can raise issues weather they have merit or not and then the court will decide the merit of it. I should have stated in my previous post that the death warrant is sought after all serious (I can't think of the word that I want to use) appeals have been exhausted.
I have stated several times that I think that separate appeals courts should be established in each state with Capital Punishment as well as within the Federal court system. these courts would only handle DR cases and thereby speeding up the process while protecting the offenders right to appeal. This would be good for the pros and the antis would have one less excuse as the prisoners would languish on DR for 20 years. HTH
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Post by sally104 on May 19, 2005 19:07:11 GMT -6
Sometimes God needs to step in to deal with the inefficiencies of the justice system
[quote author=blackcurrant30
link=board=cases&thread=1116280224&start=0#0 date=1116280224]Death row inmate dies of natural causes
05/16/2005
Associated Press
John Wesley Jones, an inmate on North Carolina's death row, has died of natural causes in a local hospital, a Department of Correction spokesman said Monday.
Jones, 56, died Sunday night at Wake Medical Center, department spokesman Keith Acree said in a statement.
Jones was convicted of first-degree murder in August 1990 for the shooting death of his son, Charles Edward Meadows, 23, in Maysville. He also received a 20-year sentence for assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill inflicting serious injury and a 10-year sentence for discharging a firearm into an occupied dwelling.
The department said Jones had been on death row since Aug. 16, 1990.
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Post by dio on May 20, 2005 14:16:52 GMT -6
The appeals process is a very complicated one,and it does at times require a legal mind to decipher it.Despite that this particular inmate is dead,isn't that what matters.I was of the opinion we support the DEATH penalty not the EXECUTION penalty.Perhaps I am wrong,maybe the inmate faked his death just to be released? ;D ;D ;D ;DFoolish.It does not matter how he died all that matters is there is 1 less inmate on death row in Raliegh North Carolina today!!!!!
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