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Post by forgesfire on Mar 24, 2010 16:38:35 GMT -6
U.S. Supreme Court delays Texas execution By ALLAN TURNER HOUSTON CHRONICLE March 24, 2010, 5:19PM
HUNTSVILLE — The United States Supreme Court has granted a stay of execution for capital killer Henry Skinner.
Skinner, 47, was to be executed this evening for the December 1993 murders in Pampa of his girlfriend, Twila Busby, who was strangled and battered with an ax handle, and her two adult sons, Elwin Caler and Randy Busby, who were stabbed.
Skinner's lawyers had argued he was entitled to additional DNA testing on evidence.
More details to come.
allan.turner@chron.com
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Mar 24, 2010 16:39:20 GMT -6
I just heard too
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Post by whitediamonds on Mar 24, 2010 16:44:45 GMT -6
Good, he has a right to the DNA test. Fair enough under the extreme circumstances.
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Post by Rev. Agave on Mar 24, 2010 16:52:44 GMT -6
That is *f---ing* *bullcrap*. This piece of *crap* got scarf down a huge last meal for free and now gets to go sleep if off back at the Polunsky Unit. We all know the DNA tests will support his guilt, so this is a huge waste. *f---ing* embarrassing.
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Post by Elric of Melnibone on Mar 24, 2010 16:59:20 GMT -6
People should not ask for some things, and I have this feeling this will haunt skinner.
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Post by whitediamonds on Mar 24, 2010 17:07:54 GMT -6
People should not ask for some things, and I have this feeling this will haunt skinner. Good then the "other site" cannot scream foul and we executed an innocent man.
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Post by Rev. Agave on Mar 24, 2010 17:15:02 GMT -6
People should not ask for some things, and I have this feeling this will haunt skinner. How so? Given that he was set to die today, this last minute stay cannot help but help him. As we all know, the DNA tests will support his conviction. But now he gets to live for maybe a year or two longer. The witnesses and staff were all prepared and the juice was ready to go. The only people this stay will haunt is the MVSs and the taxpayers. At this stage, Skinner has nothing to lose at all.
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Post by unkelremus on Mar 24, 2010 17:49:55 GMT -6
People should not ask for some things, and I have this feeling this will haunt skinner. FROM THE HOUSTON CHRONICLE The brief order grants him the delay but does not ensure he will get such testing. Perry had not decided on the delay. Skinner, 47, faced lethal injection for the bludgeoning and strangling of his girlfriend, 40-year-old Twila Jean Busby, and the stabbings of her two adult sons. The slayings occurred at their home in the Texas Panhandle town of Pampa on New Year's Eve in 1993. The court order came as relatives of Busby were climbing the steps of the Huntsville prison to prepare to witness his punishment. In the order, the justices said they would put off the execution until they decide whether to review his case. If the court refuses the review, the reprieve is lifted, according to the order, and that would make Skinner eligible for another execution date. Skinner, in a small holding cell a few feet from the death chamber, expressed surprise when was informed of the reprieve in a phone call from his lawyer. "I had made up my mind I was going to die," he said. "I'm eager to get the DNA testing so I can prove my innocence and get the hell out of here.Anyone beleive this garbage mouth, I got some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you....
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Post by mst3k4evur on Mar 24, 2010 18:15:45 GMT -6
People should not ask for some things, and I have this feeling this will haunt skinner. How so? Given that he was set to die today, this last minute stay cannot help but help him. As we all know, the DNA tests will support his conviction. But now he gets to live for maybe a year or two longer. The witnesses and staff were all prepared and the juice was ready to go. The only people this stay will haunt is the MVSs and the taxpayers. At this stage, Skinner has nothing to lose at all. Maybe more than a year or two. Kevin Cooper is still alive and he got a similar stay in '04 and he's still alive six years later. After his DNA test proved his guilt his deluded supporters immediately switched tactics and started screaming about how the blood evidence was planted. It went all the way to SCOTUS in 09. Now he has the lethal injection debacle to keep him alive for years more.
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Post by Californian on Mar 24, 2010 18:39:26 GMT -6
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Post by whitediamonds on Mar 24, 2010 19:01:54 GMT -6
That is *f---ing* *bullcrap*. This piece of *crap* got scarf down a huge last meal for free and now gets to go sleep if off back at the Polunsky Unit. We all know the DNA tests will support his guilt, so this is a huge waste. *f---ing* embarrassing. They could atleast have had him barf it up... ;D
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Post by Matt on Mar 24, 2010 19:22:04 GMT -6
Mystifying.
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Post by Breka on Mar 24, 2010 19:44:21 GMT -6
I agree to that stay - in capital cases it must be a 100 % clear !
Only thing to object : DNA testing - was not invented today - why this was not carried out earlier ? Why not ordered by the trial court ? When was it brought up by the defense lawyers !
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Post by mst3k4evur on Mar 24, 2010 19:53:56 GMT -6
I agree to that stay - in capital cases it must be a 100 % clear ! Only thing to object : DNA testing - was not invented today - why this was not carried out earlier ? Why not ordered by the trial court ? When was it brought up by the defense lawyers ! The state offered to do the testing before the 1995 trial. He refused. If he really thought it would show his innocence he never would have refused the offer. The only reason he wants it now is to stay his execution.
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Post by whitediamonds on Mar 24, 2010 19:57:06 GMT -6
I know this must be hard on the MVS involved in Huntsville there and ready, why not another DNA to be absolutely sure not executing the wrong guy. The defense team must have something valid to review I would think??? Worth the time for all involved.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2010 20:06:25 GMT -6
I agree to that stay - in capital cases it must be a 100 % clear ! Only thing to object : DNA testing - was not invented today - why this was not carried out earlier ? Why not ordered by the trial court ? When was it brought up by the defense lawyers ! Complete, utter nonsense. This delay is a travesty of justice. DNA TESTING IS NOT A LITMUS TEST FOR THE TRUTH. You have to actually have a reason for it, and a hypothesis that makes sense. When the results come back, they don't have "guilty" or "not guilty" stamped on the paper. "Authorities followed a blood trail from the crime scene to the female friend's trailer and found Skinner in the closet, authorities said. He was "wearing heavily blood-stained jeans and socks and bearing a gash on the palm of his right hand," according to the Texas attorney general's summary of the case. In addition, authorities said cuts on Skinner's hand came from the knife used to stab the men. Skinner said he cut it on glass. Some DNA testing was done, which implicated Skinner, but not on the items he now wants tested. "DNA testing showed that blood on the shirt Skinner was wearing at the time of his arrest was Twila's blood, and blood on Skinner's jeans was a mixture of blood from Elwin and Twila," authorities said. GIVE. ME. A. BREAK.
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Post by DeadElvis on Mar 24, 2010 20:43:42 GMT -6
The state offered to do the testing before the 1995 trial. He refused. If he really thought it would show his innocence he never would have refused the offer. The only reason he wants it now is to stay his execution. Of course, like Erick said earlier in this thread, he's got absolutely nothing to lose and potentialy months or years of life to gain.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2010 1:02:56 GMT -6
fu#$@$@ing bulls#@%
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Post by spinaltap on Mar 25, 2010 2:30:27 GMT -6
OK, I am sorry to hear this POS is still breathing, but do the DNA test. It should have been done yrs ago. The fact that the trial atty didn't want it tested, cause it might prove guilt should not matter, they should have tested it anyway. As mush of a POS as these death row folk are, you need to get every doubt out of the way. Do the DNA test, and set another date as soon as you can.
and, oh, sorry, you already had you last meal, lets just put this IV here, and push this button, and.......
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Post by Tim S on Mar 25, 2010 2:32:02 GMT -6
Girls girls girls! Calm down! IF he is guilty he will finally be executed. But acting like ghouls being denied blood does not help anyone.
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Post by The Tipsy Broker on Mar 25, 2010 4:51:00 GMT -6
Girls girls girls! Calm down! IF he is guilty he will finally be executed. But acting like ghouls being denied blood does not help anyone. Motley Crue fan are you? (In two instances )
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Post by Tim S on Mar 25, 2010 6:26:28 GMT -6
Girls girls girls! Calm down! IF he is guilty he will finally be executed. But acting like ghouls being denied blood does not help anyone. Motley Crue fan are you? (In two instances ) Nope I prefer Motörhead as Mikkey Dee is a pal of mine.
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Post by john - uk on Mar 25, 2010 6:56:49 GMT -6
People should not ask for some things, and I have this feeling this will haunt skinner. Good then the "other site" cannot scream foul and we executed an innocent man. The 'other site' will never accept the results if they come back positive. Right now they will be rehearsing their arguments about contaminated evidence, questioning the competency of the laboratory and claiming it is all a conspiracy.
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Post by swif on Mar 25, 2010 6:59:27 GMT -6
I feel sorry for Twila's relatives they did not get the justice deserved but they should be doing DNA testing before the trial starts then there is no complaints from either side and yes even the anti's would need to accept he is guilty then.
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Post by DeadElvis on Mar 25, 2010 12:49:55 GMT -6
Okay THOSE OF YOU DEMANDING DNA TESTING TELL US WHY IT WOULD PROVE THAT SKINNER IS NOT GUILTY. JUSTIFY YOUR OPINION WITH LOGIC INSTEAD OF FEEEEEELINGS.
Haha, if they do a DNA test on the blood and it doesn't match the victim, it seems like that would just mean that he actually killed someone ELSE instead. They have already demonstrated that the blood spatter on his clothes was the result of performing some type of violence. If they pulled the "evidence tampering" card already, I'm sure it ready to be pulled again when the tests don't go their way.
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Post by whitediamonds on Mar 25, 2010 12:53:04 GMT -6
The state offered to do the testing before the 1995 trial. He refused. If he really thought it would show his innocence he never would have refused the offer. The only reason he wants it now is to stay his execution. Re: Cooper - That was his second dna test. The first one was in 2001 or 2002. It came back a match but then he claimed tampering. So, in 2004, they tested a bunch of stuff and again there was a match. The blood on Skinner's clothes were DNA tested and matched the victims. Report from def. expert: "Shirt purportedly from Skinner. Medium velocity impact spatter and numerous other blood stains were found on the shirt. Most of the spatter was found on the shirt front, but some other very small stains were found on the back, possibly consistent with cast-off blood. The locations of the stain indicate that the sleeves were rolled up two turns and that his shirt front was open when at least some of the blood was deposited on it. "Jeans from Skinner. There is a large amount of spatter on all sides of the jeans. This includes impact spatter and possible cast-off tracks on the front and back; it is on the lower surfaces and the higher surfaces." "Overall, the clothing of Skinner shows blood stains that are generally inconsistent with his having simply lay on the sofa during the attacks on the victims. The blood is too wide spread and on too many rent surfaces of the clothing. " No matter what the results of the testing on other objects, Skinner is still guilty. If someone else was present or helped, it does not make Skinner innocent. I don't know why people can't understand that. Okay THOSE OF YOU DEMANDING DNA TESTING TELL US WHY IT WOULD PROVE THAT SKINNER IS NOT GUILTY. JUSTIFY YOUR OPINION WITH LOGIC INSTEAD OF FEEEEEELINGS.
Not innocent maybe, but not qualify for DP possibly. By DNA of nail clippings and hair found under fingernails was inconclusive back then. Claimed he was passed out on the sofa from vodka, reason blood was splattered on him. He was found three hours later hiding in a closet with the same blood splattered n his clothing, kinda odd to stay there and in same clothing.
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Post by Elric of Melnibone on Mar 25, 2010 13:11:08 GMT -6
They found him 4 blocks away at a friends house, in her closet.
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Post by Stormyweather on Mar 25, 2010 13:14:14 GMT -6
Girls girls girls! Calm down! IF he is guilty he will finally be executed. But acting like ghouls being denied blood does not help anyone. Why?
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Post by mike5 on Mar 25, 2010 13:21:49 GMT -6
Not innocent maybe, but not qualify for DP possibly. By DNA of nail clippings and hair found under fingernails was inconclusive back then. Claimed he was passed out on the sofa from vodka, reason blood was splattered on him. He was found three hours later hiding in a closet with the same blood splattered n his clothing, kinda odd to stay there and in same clothing. 1. Think about whether he would qualify for DP or not. Remember the special circumstance was multiple murder. 2. I don't know what your second sentence means in this context. 3. His own expert report says that he was not lying on the sofa when he was spattered with victims blood. He has spatters on the front of his clothes and cast offs on the back. 4. He ran to hide at his girlfriends. When the cops knocked on the door, he went and hid in her son's bedroom closet.
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Post by mike5 on Mar 25, 2010 13:26:33 GMT -6
Okay THOSE OF YOU DEMANDING DNA TESTING TELL US WHY IT WOULD PROVE THAT SKINNER IS NOT GUILTY. JUSTIFY YOUR OPINION WITH LOGIC INSTEAD OF FEEEEEELINGS.
Haha, if they do a DNA test on the blood and it doesn't match the victim, it seems like that would just mean that he actually killed someone ELSE instead. They have already demonstrated that the blood spatter on his clothes was the result of performing some type of violence. Yeah, Twila and Elwin. So, what can thy argue? That someone else murdered Randy? Seems lame at best. Well they did it in Cooper, but no doubt they will do it in Skinner. Plus, they always report inconclusive findings as exculpatory and they are not.
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