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Post by mike5 on Mar 3, 2010 7:52:19 GMT -6
« Thread Started Yesterday at 10:50pm » Or something. I don't know what it is but it's over 52%. Hutchison said she would go for a moratorium which had to be one of the dumbest things she could have said. Obviously, she has spent too much time in Washington and is out of touch with what people want. The donk candidate does not support a moratorium. However, I have no doubt if he were elected he would change his mind. www.texastribune.org/The Texas Trib sucks. Very anti-DP and will never accept my pro comments.
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Post by D.E.E. on Mar 3, 2010 19:57:32 GMT -6
Dam guess I am voteing Dem for Gov this election. Perry has not been good for Texas.
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Post by mike5 on Mar 4, 2010 7:25:05 GMT -6
With your endorsement it will be Perry by a landslide in November. ;D
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Post by Charlene on Mar 4, 2010 8:09:46 GMT -6
Dam guess I am voteing Dem for Gov this election. Perry has not been good for Texas. We will have to disagree on that general opinion, but more importantly, on the issue of criminal justice (which is the most crucial issue in any political race in my opinion) he has been extremely good for Texas. He has my vote, and that of most people I know.
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Post by D.E.E. on Mar 4, 2010 8:34:09 GMT -6
Dam guess I am voteing Dem for Gov this election. Perry has not been good for Texas. We will have to disagree on that general opinion, but more importantly, on the issue of criminal justice (which is the most crucial issue in any political race in my opinion) he has been extremely good for Texas. He has my vote, and that of most people I know. He has been bad for corrections in general, he saw to it that corrections officers did not get a much need raise. He has also not been good for Texas schools, I do not know any Gov in Texas who has really been bad on the issue of criminal justice.
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Post by D.E.E. on Mar 4, 2010 8:34:47 GMT -6
With your endorsement it will be Perry by a landslide in November. ;D With yours I am sure I should not vote for him. Thanks
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Post by SubSurfCPO(ret) on Mar 4, 2010 8:35:40 GMT -6
He would have my vote on name alone.
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Post by D.E.E. on Mar 4, 2010 8:50:38 GMT -6
I have not voted Dem since the first time Anne Richards ran, but I can not vote for Rick Perry again when he will not do anything for teachers or Corrections Officers. We have the most inmates and are second lowest in pay, out of 50 states that is not good.
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Post by mike5 on Mar 4, 2010 9:27:02 GMT -6
With your endorsement it will be Perry by a landslide in November. ;D With yours I am sure I should not vote for him. Thanks No problem! It's just another example, among many, of your poor judgment.
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Post by brumsongs on Mar 4, 2010 9:28:55 GMT -6
I have not voted Dem since the first time Anne Richards ran, but I can not vote for Rick Perry again when he will not do anything for teachers or Corrections Officers. We have the most inmates and are second lowest in pay, out of 50 states that is not good. There is a price to be paid for politically motivated "tough on crime" policies and you are paying it. Once someone is jailed the public forgets about them, CO's don't have that luxury. The U.S. has 5% of the world's people and 25% of its prisoners. That can't go on forever. Political interference in what should be a judicial process is the cause.
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Post by Californian on Mar 4, 2010 9:34:25 GMT -6
The U.S. has 5% of the world's people and 25% of its prisoners. That can't go on forever. Please explain why you believe this statement to be true.
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Post by brumsongs on Mar 4, 2010 11:01:55 GMT -6
The U.S. has 5% of the world's people and 25% of its prisoners. That can't go on forever. Please explain why you believe this statement to be true. The country can't afford it. DEE's post is indicative of this.
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Post by wrench on Mar 4, 2010 12:05:49 GMT -6
we could switch to the mexican model. gangs of drug traffickers run amok, killing and kidnapping. that will save the money.
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Post by Californian on Mar 4, 2010 12:25:28 GMT -6
Please explain why you believe this statement to be true. The country can't afford it. DEE's post is indicative of this. Sample of one from what is hardly a disinterested party. Dee is free to look for work elsewhere if he feels underpaid and underworked. Try again.
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Post by brumsongs on Mar 4, 2010 12:26:29 GMT -6
we could switch to the mexican model. gangs of drug traffickers run amok, killing and kidnapping. that will save the money. Interesting that you compare the U.S. to a third world country to make your comparison. perhaps you should consider raising the bar? Turning America into a gated community simply will not work and is financially ruinous. Prisoners cost money twice, first to incarcerate them secondly in the lost tax revenue from their unemployment. Add to this the fortunes incurred by their dependants and you begin to get the picture. And before you get excited I know that violent felons need locking up so don't bother countering with that.
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Post by brumsongs on Mar 4, 2010 12:29:32 GMT -6
The country can't afford it. DEE's post is indicative of this. Sample of one from what is hardly a disinterested party. Dee is free to look for work elsewhere if he feels underpaid and underworked. Try again. I haven't got time to repeat the blindingly obvious to argumentative pensioners. Make a point or take the dog for a walk.
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Post by Californian on Mar 4, 2010 12:38:58 GMT -6
I haven't got time to repeat the blindingly obvious to argumentative pensioners. Make a point or take the dog for a walk. I have made my point, concisely and correctly. You simply don't like the answer. Dog is fine, I'm off to the range, though.
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Post by wrench on Mar 4, 2010 12:40:57 GMT -6
we could switch to the mexican model. gangs of drug traffickers run amok, killing and kidnapping. that will save the money. Interesting that you compare the U.S. to a third world country to make your comparison. perhaps you should consider raising the bar? Turning America into a gated community simply will not work and is financially ruinous. Prisoners cost money twice, first to incarcerate them secondly in the lost tax revenue from their unemployment. Add to this the fortunes incurred by their dependants and you begin to get the picture. And before you get excited I know that violent felons need locking up so don't bother countering with that. mexico happens to share the second longest border with the US. it also happens to share a border with texas, the state we are discussing.
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Post by SubSurfCPO(ret) on Mar 4, 2010 12:57:59 GMT -6
I have not voted Dem since the first time Anne Richards ran, but I can not vote for Rick Perry again when he will not do anything for teachers or Corrections Officers. We have the most inmates and are second lowest in pay, out of 50 states that is not good. There is a price to be paid for politically motivated "tough on crime" policies and you are paying it. Once someone is jailed the public forgets about them, CO's don't have that luxury. The U.S. has 5% of the world's people and 25% of its prisoners. That can't go on forever. Political interference in what should be a judicial process is the cause. I have to take exception with the numbers. 3.2% of the US population was incarcerated, on probation or on parole in 2008. China alone has 1.5 million inmates and that doesn't count people awaiting trial, etc. However, your numbers can be clarified as follows: * With 5% of the world's population, our country now houses 25% of the world's reported prisoners. * Incarcerated drug offenders have soared 1200% since 1980. * Four times as many mentally ill people are in prisons than in mental health hospitals. * Approximately 1 million gang members reside in the U.S., many of them foreign-based; and Mexican cartels operate in 230+ communities across the country. * Post-incarceration re-entry programs are haphazard and often nonexistent, undermining public safety and making it extremely difficult for ex-offenders to become full, contributing members of society. Here is the link to the National Criminal Justice Commission webb.senate.gov/issuesandlegislation/criminaljusticeandlawenforcement/National-Criminal-Justice-Commission-Act-of-2009.cfmNational Criminal Justice Commission Act of 2009 - Establishes the National Criminal Justice Commission to undertake a comprehensive review of the criminal justice system. Directs the Commission to: (1) review all areas of federal and state criminal justice costs, practices, and policies; (2) make specified findings relating to incarceration, prison administration, the impact of gang activity, drug policy, mental illness among prisoners and the role of the military in crime prevention; (3) make recommendations for changes in policies and laws to address findings; (4) consult with government and nongovernmental leaders, including state and local law enforcement officials; and (5) submit a final report to Congress and the President and make such report public.
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Post by SubSurfCPO(ret) on Mar 4, 2010 12:59:49 GMT -6
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Post by brumsongs on Mar 4, 2010 13:17:40 GMT -6
Interesting that you compare the U.S. to a third world country to make your comparison. perhaps you should consider raising the bar? Turning America into a gated community simply will not work and is financially ruinous. Prisoners cost money twice, first to incarcerate them secondly in the lost tax revenue from their unemployment. Add to this the fortunes incurred by their dependants and you begin to get the picture. And before you get excited I know that violent felons need locking up so don't bother countering with that. mexico happens to share the second longest border with the US. it also happens to share a border with texas, the state we are discussing. New Zealand borders the South pole perhaps they should do like for like crime comparisons there.
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Post by D.E.E. on Mar 4, 2010 13:32:43 GMT -6
With yours I am sure I should not vote for him. Thanks No problem! It's just another example, among many, of your poor judgment. Yes talking with you is an example of poor judgement, I am glad I am not the only one to notice.
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Post by D.E.E. on Mar 4, 2010 13:36:52 GMT -6
Please explain why you believe this statement to be true. The country can't afford it. DEE's post is indicative of this. Not true my post is indicative that Perry does not care about CO's or Teachers or for that matter students. We have one of the highest drop out rates in the nation and if any one finds that acceptable then shame on them. He makes sure that neither Teachers or CO's got a raise and then brags about the surplus budget he posted last year. If we could not afford it why did we supposedly post a surplus in the state budget?
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Post by Charlene on Mar 4, 2010 16:08:26 GMT -6
The country can't afford it. DEE's post is indicative of this. Not true my post is indicative that Perry does not care about CO's or Teachers or for that matter students. We have one of the highest drop out rates in the nation and if any one finds that acceptable then shame on them. He makes sure that neither Teachers or CO's got a raise and then brags about the surplus budget he posted last year. If we could not afford it why did we supposedly post a surplus in the state budget? Arguably the most liberal state in the nation, California has the highest drop-out rate. Why do you say Perry made sure these groups did not get raises? Did he veto a raise that had been voted on by other legislators?
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Post by mike5 on Mar 4, 2010 16:37:07 GMT -6
No problem! It's just another example, among many, of your poor judgment. Yes talking with you is an example of poor judgement, I am glad I am not the only one to notice. This isn't speech. We are not talking. Your critical thinking skills continue to dazzle us -- not.
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Post by Elric of Melnibone on Mar 4, 2010 16:50:03 GMT -6
Perry has put into place a 5% budget deduction on higher education. This hurts cause in bad economic times. more people go to college, but have to face more students in classrooms, and there are not enough teachers cause they had to furlough them.
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Post by wrench on Mar 4, 2010 18:17:42 GMT -6
mexico happens to share the second longest border with the US. it also happens to share a border with texas, the state we are discussing. New Zealand borders the South pole perhaps they should do like for like crime comparisons there. sorry, but the rio grande isn't that wide.
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Post by Californian on Mar 4, 2010 20:23:14 GMT -6
Arguably the most liberal state in the nation, California has the highest drop-out rate. Many of us who live in California do not consider these two facts coincidental.
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Post by Californian on Mar 4, 2010 20:29:50 GMT -6
He has been bad for corrections in general, he saw to it that corrections officers did not get a much need raise. He has also not been good for Texas schools, I do not know any Gov in Texas who has really been bad on the issue of criminal justice. David: you're thinking like a union member. Surpluses in the state budget because the legislature has been frugal with the available (diminished) funds does not mean that you deserve a raise. Those funds belong to the taxpayers, not the bargaining units of state employees. (i.e., you) Remember, surpluses come and go, but raises last forever, and of course there's a cumulative effect as they increase as a percentage of salaries. This doesn't even consider the fact that pension liabilities also increase. Not realizing this (or not caring because of union support for the legislators) is the reason the state of California is currently running a $21 billion annual deficit with no real plan to cure it.
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Post by kingsindanger on Mar 4, 2010 21:31:07 GMT -6
I am actually kind of surprised (based on what I heard from the national media) that Perry even drew a primary.
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