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Post by snowy111 on Jun 7, 2004 14:47:28 GMT -6
Why does Steve Oken have June 14-19 as his execution date Which one is his actual execution date. Also, does it look like he is going to get another stay Does anyone know if his present appeal is working or will the family members finally be given their justice
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Post by Donnie on Jun 10, 2004 22:20:34 GMT -6
Does anyone know if his present appeal is working or will the family members finally be given their justice Neither the family members nor the murder victims will be given justice. Even if Oken is executed on June 12, he will have been treated much better than each of his victims.
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Post by snowy111 on Jun 10, 2004 22:54:11 GMT -6
Donnie go to the main pro board and read "One Down" my comment is #16. That whole tread is about Steven Oken.
Snowy111
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Post by dottie1111 on Jun 14, 2004 23:13:58 GMT -6
As an immediate family member of Dawn Marie Romano Garvin , I can say that the execution of Steven Oken is a necessity to begin the slow healinging process for our family. Mr. Oken has had the luxury of 17 more years of life : a luxury he did not afford to our dear Dawnie. Mr Oken's stance is that the tri-injection system used in Md's executions is " cruel and unusual punishment ." I wonder, did he ever stop to think that what he did to Dawnie was cruel and unusal ; Or, how cruel it was for her daddy to find his baby girl's naked , brutalized, dead body ? Perhaps he would perfer his execution in the form he aribtrarily chose for Dawnie .
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Post by dottie1111 on Jun 14, 2004 23:42:34 GMT -6
update from what I hear Mr Oken's LAST appeal , to the Supreme Court , will be decided Tuesday 10:30 am. If the court sees fit to do what is right and just and deny the request for a stay of execution , Mr Oken may meet his maker as early as midnight the same night. I am certain the gates of purgatory are flung open wide in anticipation of the descention of his wretched soul.
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Post by Balto on Jun 15, 2004 7:46:34 GMT -6
Here I sit again awaiting a long overdue decision on if Oken will pay for his crimes against my family. Pat Hirt had no chance to appeal her fate so why should this dirt ball get one?? This is the 5th time I think that we have gone through this. For me this waiting is unbearable.
I only want what is right that pats killer pay the price for his actions. But I am still waiting for the decision that can end our pain. I do not want the great state of Maryland to continue to harrass us every few years with this It is time to do it know!!!!!!!!!
During the waiting I think of all the things that pat missed out on and were taken from her by Oken. From family get togethers, to knowing her granddaughter and witnessing the success of her on two daughters this what hurts the worst.
But Stevies mommy has lots of money and she can afford the best lawyer that you can find. These people want a painless death for this scum. Well thats real nice but what about him shooting three women in the head? I think a pistol to his own head should be the way the that he is exicuted. Stevie if you read this why do you keep on fighting this? You are going to have to meet the devil sooner our later and burn for your crimes so why don't you be a man and end this. Think of all the money mommie could save on tastie cakes to help pay for the fancy lawyer that she has retained for you. Whereas the victims families must rely on a state appointed one.
For those that do not understand this and want to save this scums life. How woudl you feel if someone killed someone you loved. Try walking in our shoes for the last 17 years! I hope you never have to experiance that.
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Post by Balto on Jun 15, 2004 7:57:32 GMT -6
Once more the families of the fallen our not given the justice that they deserve!!!!!!!!!!!! Stevie got his stay of exicution because he is to much of a coward to pay for his crimes. I quess down at supermax they will be having a kosher tastie cake victory dinner tonight. NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE VICTIMS FAMILIES!!!!!!!!
Where is the Justice for us in all of this? How many more times will we have to suffer through this? Will this piece of Randallstown SCUM ever pay for this!! I wonder how much of my tax money goes to support this fat wimp every year?? I guess the next time I visit Pats grave I will have to let her know how the state has let her down AGAIN!!!!!!!!!! I cannot wait for the next round or should I say next rounds in this case. I would like to add that we support the Romano's 110%. We are in this together and will see it through until Justice is finally served on fat steven. Enjoy your tastie cakes while you can Stevie. Your day of atonement is coming!!!!!!!!
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Post by Matt on Jun 15, 2004 15:36:37 GMT -6
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Post by dottie1111 on Jun 15, 2004 23:05:27 GMT -6
no!no!no!no!no! What was judge Peter J Messitte thinking when he granted yet another stay of execution for Steven Oken on the basis that he wasn't provided details on the tri-injection procedure earlier. Oken's defense attourneys claim is that the initial barbiturate injection might not prevent him from feeling any pain. There is no medical evidence to support that theroy. On the contrary, it is the most humane form of execution ever devised. Historically, man has employed a variety of execution procedures including electricution, hanging, beheading, firing squad, and even crucifixion. Perhaps crucifixion would be more to Mr Oken's liking. (irony) What does he think execution is supposed to be like : a walk in the park?!!!!! Dying in you sleep is most certainly a whole lot less painful than being shot in the head. I like to think that we, as a society, have evolved into a more compassionate people, but where did the misguided theroy of guaranteed, totally painless,execution come from? Too bad the murders Mr Oken comitted didn't happen in Delaware : we still have public hanging as a legal form of execution.
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Post by Karin Elsea on Jun 17, 2004 7:51:00 GMT -6
Steve Oken's executio is scheduled to take place within a few days and I for one am dismayed and can only say to 'do not kill in my name;. I did not vote in favor of Governor Erhlich and will never vote for a pro-death penalty candidate in Maryland. The death penalty is not a deterrent, it is racist (and I do realize that Oken is white) and targets the poor.
Not finding myself often on this list - for obvious reasons - I am curious to know if each forum has a moderator in charge of regulating the language use. It seems to me that even differences if opinion could be debated in a polite manner. I find Balto's references to Steve Oken's mother to be crude and tasteless. Karin Karin
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Post by TexasLady on Jun 17, 2004 8:50:06 GMT -6
Steve Oken's executio is scheduled to take place within a few days and I for one am dismayed and can only say to 'do not kill in my name;. I did not vote in favor of Governor Erhlich and will never vote for a pro-death penalty candidate in Maryland. The death penalty is not a deterrent, it is racist (and I do realize that Oken is white) and targets the poor. Okay, we won't put your name on the execution order. Your opinion is fine but it is, just that, opinion. Oken is white, he's got money (or his mother does) and, as for the deterrent, that's not the main reason to support the DP so it's a non-issue. There are moderators, yes. If you look you'll see who the moderators are. It's Royd, Doc and Charlene at this time. For the most part, we moderate ourselves. If a post is considered abusive, it can be reported to the admins and they can decide whether or not to remove it. I doubt that a reference to Oken's mother's money would qualify, though.
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Post by Matt on Jun 17, 2004 10:04:03 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2004 17:14:08 GMT -6
To the relatives of Oken's victims......if it's any consolation, all the delays caused by moritoriums, appeals, and abusive legal gymnastics have focused national attention on this case. Your steadfast and public demand for justice resonates with most of the population.
This is a nightmare case for the antis. They have to go through the motions of defending Oken, even when their arguements and stalling tactics are a clear abuse of process. You've hung in there for a very long time and, just maybe, you might spare others from the same ordeal.
Your loss can never go away, but it looks like the injustice may be resolved.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2004 18:13:40 GMT -6
news.mainetoday.com/apwire/D8394FE80-168.shtmlBALTIMORE — Triple murderer Steven Oken was executed by lethal injection at 9:18 p.m. Thursday, a Maryland prison spokeswoman said. Oken, 42, was sentenced to death for the 1987 rape and murder of Dawn Marie Garvin, a 20-year-old newlywed. He also was convicted of killing Patricia Hirt, his wife´s sister, and Lori Ward, a motel clerk in Maine, during a 15-day spree. "Steven Howard Oken was executed tonight at 9:18 p.m.," said Rosa Cruz, a state prison spokeswoman.
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Post by Annie on Jun 17, 2004 18:29:54 GMT -6
Justice has been served. May he rot in hell.
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Post by dottie1111 on Jun 17, 2004 19:42:13 GMT -6
listen...............what was that sound ? ............. oh yeah, it was the sound of the gates of hell slamming shut behind the eternally condemned soul of Steve Oken.
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Post by Felix on Jun 21, 2004 7:34:52 GMT -6
Dottie, I dont think it is your shout to decide where Steve Oken spends eternity. As a family, you have got his execution, if this brings the closure you claim it will, why not leave it at that. Perhaps the sound you heard was the last vestige of your own compassion and capacity for forgiveness leaving the room? I realise from your earlier posts that you are related to the victims, but I am familiar with Fred Romano and all he ever spouts anymore is hate, hate and more hate. Even pro's find him embarassing to their cause. When will you people be satisfied? I am no Oken lover or supporter, but killing the likes of him reduces you to his level in some respects.
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Post by Balto on Jun 21, 2004 16:35:43 GMT -6
Felex
if you have never experianced the loss of someone you loved due to a situation like this then you cannot even begin to understand what it is like. Ever holiday every family gathering, is overshadowed by the memories of what once was the person you cared about. No matter how hard you try you just cannot come to grips with it. It eats you up on the inside. You wonder where that person who was killed would be if they had been spared.
Then you wait years for justice to be served and yes I am somewhat biased when it comes to this. Every appeal brings the horrors back to the forefront and you just cannot get it out of your head. You see how the killer has more rights then his victims. You get mad as hell and there is nothing you can do about. This process will break up marriages and cause you drink to try to escape from it.
As a survivor you are either screwed by the courts, the anti's or the News Media who is only interested in showing those terrible images of your loved one on the evening news to bring up there ratings. Who can forget Pat Hirt's sheet covered body lying in that ditch in White March being shown repeatedly on the local news leading up to Okens exicution. It makes you want to take the law into your own hands. To kill the one that has caused you and your family so much pain and grief. It is a surreal experiance that you can only comprehend by going through.
I tell you this to give some insight into this horror. As for Dottie I am sure she would agree with my discription of these 17 years of hell that have been forced upon us. You can make all of the judgements about our actions that you want. You can say that we are horrible people for wanting this but you would be wrong.
We never asked for this and never would wish this experiance on anyone. I only wish that there was a way to change the past and bring back those that where taken from us. But that is not to be. In the end A court found Steve Oken guilty and he has paid for his crimes after 17 years of hell for the victims families though.
These past weeks have been Hell on us. The Process has sparked and anger in me that I cannot even explain. If you knew me you would how this has effected me. Some of you think that I am foul mouthed hateful SOB but that is inacurate. I have dedicated my life to helping others. I am A Fire Fighter who has pulled kids out of burning buildings, Help bring back the old from the brink of death, and Comforted the relatives of those who could not be saved. I tell you this so you can get a feel for what this can do to a human and that is why Dottie wrote what she did about Oken entering Hell.
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Post by dottie1111 on Jun 21, 2004 23:57:04 GMT -6
felex
I think you have a misguided opnion of me, for if you knew me you would know I am a very kind and gentle soul. But, it was not I who set the criteria of eternial life in hell. ( I could sugguest a reference book !) And yes, I am sorry to say , this horrific tragedy has greatly altered my disposition. I was always the one in the family ( the consummate counter culture hippie ) who wore the proverbial "rose colored glasses " and thought the world was destined to be filled with love and brotherhood. Unfortunately, becaue of Steven Oken my beautiful glasses have been shattered beyond repair. So ; perhaps, that is yet another tragedy in this scenario. Murder serves as a nucleus of a giant spider that spreads its tentacles out in many directions, affecting a myriad of people connected to the victim. Dawns brutal murder had a unique , individual, omnipresent, affect on each of us. Those who were closer to the nucleus experienced a more profound impact. Fred was one in close proximinity of the nucleus and ; therefore' suffered a a greater impact than those of us further out on the spectrum. I do not think you should have such a harsh opnion of him until you have walked a mile in his shoes and personally suffered as he (and his parents ) have.
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Post by Sydney Australia on Jun 23, 2004 5:19:07 GMT -6
Im mystified as to why anyone cares whether Steve Okens mother is wealthy or how she become wealthy.She had done what 99.99 percent of mothers would do and that is to go to any lenghts to save her son from being executed as far as using her money to save his life.It in the end it didnt help he is dead rightly or wrongly depending on whether one is pro or anti but thats immaterial to this post.Bringing a son into this world who in the end turns into a murderer is something she had no control over.The benifit of forsight is wonderful at birth unfortunately none of us were given it if we had the world certainly wouldnt be in the turmoil it is today.I just think the comments about her on this topic and in another on this site is very uncalled for and its scrapping the barrell to say disparaging remarks about steve okens family.There really is no justification to finger blame on her.
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Post by Balto on Jun 24, 2004 5:15:25 GMT -6
Syndey
Stevies mommy used her Money and her political connections to prolong and humiliate the victims surviviors over the last 17 years that it took for us to get Justice served. She hired a dream team of 3 expensive lawyers that if they had the oportunity would have kept this going on indefinately. Never did his parents apologize for what there son did.
Maybe you do not know that one of his victims was his sister in law Pat Hirt and since I am a member of her family. that being the case has allowed me to have some insight into the Okens. They put the blame for this on Pats sister who was Stevies wife at the time. Needless to say her life was almost destroyed by this and having to live with the guilt of bringing this monster into our family. The Okens ridiculed her for not being the proper type of wife for Stevie (not Being Jewish) and laid the blame for all of this on her. How can you balme some one who was lied to cheated on, and decieved by this monster is beyond me.
I could go on about this for paragraghs but the bottom line is that there attitude during this time and trying to blame someone for the actions of there not so perfect son was wrong. I do not know about your country but in the states if you can afford the best lawyers you have a chance to get off when you are guilty our to prolong the process for decades. This is why the victims survivors are somewhat negative towards Stevies family.
If you have not experianced this then you are unable to comprehend the full depth of the horror of all this. I am especially glad that the only thing Stevie is good after almost 2 decades of putting us through hell and back for these days is worm food. I pity the worms.
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