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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2003 23:12:44 GMT -6
Claude dallas grew up having no respect for fish and game laws. He seemed to live like a loner but had certian people he was dependent on. Was a trapper by trade and pretty much camped out stayed at friends homes. in1981 two fish and game officers came oto enforce game laws on him and he shot them both cold turkey and shot them in the head like a trapper does. He was a fugitive for a long time. He only got a 30 year sentence for two counts of voluntary manslaughter when he should of gotten death. He acted like a picked on kid where the fish amd game were mean to him. Must of had good defense as well. The fbi and atf went overboard in waco and ruby ridge. I heard the game officers were arrogant two. Still thats no excuse for murder. He got a one year reduction for good behavior as well. He had a lot of antigovernment sympathisers as well. One even helped him escape from prison. he was a fugitive for a long time again. He shot at police and fbi. He again went to prison for the remainder of his term i dont know where. He didnt get a harsher sentence first degree murder. Justice was not done to the fish and game police or families of the officers with his light sentence. He regarded humans just as another trapper prey. Sick and a light sentecnce. Why would people support him.
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Post by whatnow on Sept 24, 2003 11:41:39 GMT -6
It is not the murderer (corrected) that is supported, but rather the cause.
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Post by mizthingchezfred on Sept 27, 2003 20:53:30 GMT -6
It is the murderer that is supported plain and simple. The Victim is forgotten about by all except who loved them the most. There is no such thing as the anti DP cause, just a few people who don't believe in justice being served. It is not the victim that is supported, but rather the cause.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2003 22:03:17 GMT -6
It is the murderer that is supported plain and simple. The Victim is forgotten about by all except who loved them the most. There is no such thing as the anti DP cause, just a few people who don't believe in justice being served. Wrong. Right. Wrong. But, do keep making statements that have no foundation in fact. Peace. Lynne
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Post by D.E.E. on Sept 28, 2003 19:17:50 GMT -6
It is not the victim that is supported, but rather the cause. First he was not a Victim, he was a murderer, now that should not be hard to understand. He is supported, The victims were not supported they were murdered. 30 years was way to light he should have been executed or given LWOP at the very least.
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Post by whatnow on Sept 29, 2003 8:15:44 GMT -6
Thank you for the correction DEE. I in fact did write victim rather than murderer. Just goes to show that anti-DP supporters do put the victim before the murderer Anyhow, I agree with you in most instances. After working in the local morgue for many years I saw lots of senseless deaths. I cannot help but feel pain and sorrow for someone who losses a loved one at the hands of another. My only plight is that I am not convinced that 100% of the people on DR are guilty. I do believe in justice, but I also believe that the legal system is very corrupt having worked in it.
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Post by D.E.E. on Sept 29, 2003 18:20:22 GMT -6
Anyhow, I agree with you in most instances. After working in the local morgue for many years I saw lots of senseless deaths. I cannot help but feel pain and sorrow for someone who losses a loved one at the hands of another. My only plight is that I am not convinced that 100% of the people on DR are guilty. I do believe in justice, but I also believe that the legal system is very corrupt having worked in it. I do not believe the legal system is corrupt and I also work in it. I do believe that it has faults and makes mistakes. In this I agree with some Antis, I do not place the numbers any where close to what they do but I still believe an occasional mistake is made. I am a very strong proponent of the appeals syatem, I believe they catch most of the mistakes and the media helps catch the rest. I will admit that it is possiable that an innocent has been or will be executed. I am for a better system and have no problem with a movement to make a better one. However I still believe that there needs to be the option of the DP for some.
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Post by Mesachi on Apr 22, 2004 13:51:42 GMT -6
I am quite in favour of the death penalty in cases of incontrovertible evidence and where the crime was heinous, merciless, what they used to call "cold blooded." Hardly a day goes by that some impotent vicious twit whose wife has wisely left him does not stalk her down and do her in. For this a quick easy death is much too little. But Claude Dallas? He was involved in an escalatingly violent altercation with game wardens who, by the account of the only surviving witness, had also got quite needlessly aggressive. They did not deserve to die for that but the outcome was really a matter of two men who wanted to kill each other and one a lot better at it! This is not death row stuff. Claude got a sentence he deserved, no more or less. The facts that mv presnets oin the circumstances are not consisteent with full length book accounts such as "Outlaw" by Jeff Young or "Give a Boy a Gun" by Jack Olsen. As for the comment that "he grew up having no respect for fish and game laws", well that's hardly a damning indictment. There are a lot of fish and game laws utterly undeserving of respect. Mad trappers have as good a record in conservation logic as suburb-dwelling game wardens. Claude dallas grew up having no respect for fish and game laws. He seemed to live like a loner but had certian people he was dependent on. Was a trapper by trade and pretty much camped out stayed at friends homes. in1981 two fish and game officers came oto enforce game laws on him and he shot them both cold turkey and shot them in the head like a trapper does. He was a fugitive for a long time. He only got a 30 year sentence for two counts of voluntary manslaughter when he should of gotten death. He acted like a picked on kid where the fish amd game were mean to him. Must of had good defense as well. The fbi and atf went overboard in waco and ruby ridge. I heard the game officers were arrogant two. Still thats no excuse for murder. He got a one year reduction for good behavior as well. He had a lot of antigovernment sympathisers as well. One even helped him escape from prison. he was a fugitive for a long time again. He shot at police and fbi. He again went to prison for the remainder of his term i dont know where. He didnt get a harsher sentence first degree murder. Justice was not done to the fish and game police or families of the officers with his light sentence. He regarded humans just as another trapper prey. Sick and a light sentecnce. Why would people support him.
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