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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2009 11:56:03 GMT -6
That was one case where I thought the chair was too easy. They shut the power off early, after 30 seconds, sparing him the 2nd big jolt, because it looked like he was already dead.
He should have been sent back to Washington to hang like Westley Allen Dodd and Charles Campbell. Then he could have had at least a few seconds of consciousness at the end of the rope, to consider how he got there.
You think about it, and an exit that quick and painless, after years on death row, really isn't commensurate with the crime. It's no worse than somebody else got who committed a much less heinous murder.
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Post by Tracy on Jan 27, 2009 13:42:39 GMT -6
Bundy went just like the coward he was, p*ssing his pants trying to make deals to prolong his inevitable execution, didnt work tho. And yea he totally blamed violent porn, im betting he was impotent (in the everyday normal situations).
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Post by Rev. Agave on Jan 27, 2009 13:56:44 GMT -6
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Post by Californian on Jan 27, 2009 14:50:09 GMT -6
Please tell me how much credibility you assign to Bundy's assertion to Dobson. Which one? Haven't watched the interview in over a decade. Assertion he killed people - I believe it fully. That he watched porn? Yes. That alcohol played a part in the first murder - believe that as well. I was asking how much credibility you assign to his purported "addiction" tp pornography and the part that "addiction" played in the perpetration of his crimes.
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Post by Californian on Jan 27, 2009 14:55:34 GMT -6
Bundy went just like the coward he was, p*ssing his pants trying to make deals to prolong his inevitable execution, didnt work tho. And yea he totally blamed violent porn, im betting he was impotent (in the everyday normal situations). Based on interviews with several of his past lovers, one of whom wrote a book, he was capable of normal sexual function. This is quite rare in the case of sexual sadists, which he was. Most have never had a normal sexual experience in their lives. But, they're so rare and we know so little about them that the sample size isn't very large. Also, as they're rapists and murderers, little credibility can be assigned to the information they do give. And, like Bundy, they tend to be pretty bright people, as well.
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Post by missy on Jan 27, 2009 15:48:01 GMT -6
I don't think Bundy was a sexual sadist. He actually wanted to kill them as quickly and painlessly as possible (in most cases but not all).
He was a necrophiliac and wanted them dead so he can do whatever he wanted to them.
One of the things he liked to do is use a speculum.
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Post by beej76 on Jan 27, 2009 16:39:26 GMT -6
Which one? Haven't watched the interview in over a decade. Assertion he killed people - I believe it fully. That he watched porn? Yes. That alcohol played a part in the first murder - believe that as well. I was asking how much credibility you assign to his purported "addiction" tp pornography and the part that "addiction" played in the perpetration of his crimes. I think it was one of many factors involved in his path to being a very disturbed person - but my opinion doesn't matter much on the subject quite frankly.
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Post by Californian on Jan 27, 2009 18:27:33 GMT -6
I don't think Bundy was a sexual sadist. He actually wanted to kill them as quickly and painlessly as possible (in most cases but not all). He was a necrophiliac and wanted them dead so he can do whatever he wanted to them. One of the things he liked to do is use a speculum. From the DSM: "The sadistic acts performed or fantasized by a person with sadism often reflect a desire for sexual or psychological domination of another person. These acts range from behavior that is not physically harmful although it may be humiliating to the other person (such as being urinated upon), to criminal and potentially deadly behavior. Acts of domination may include restraining or imprisoning the partner through the use of handcuffs, cages, chains, or ropes. Other acts and fantasies related to sexual sadism include paddling, spanking, whipping, burning, beating, administering electrical shocks, biting, urinating or defecating on the other person, cutting, rape, murder, and mutilation."
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Post by missy on Jan 27, 2009 18:36:15 GMT -6
I've read every book I could find on Bundy. I have never read that he has preformed any of those acts. If I can refer you to, "The Only Living Witness".. this book claims to be the true story of Bundy. Crime Library has a lengthy discussion on this book: www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/psychology/witness/1.htmlPerhaps I overlooked it, but I am sure I read he did not want his victims to suffer
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Post by beej76 on Jan 27, 2009 18:47:27 GMT -6
I've read every book I could find on Bundy. I have never read that he has preformed any of those acts. If I can refer you to, "The Only Living Witness".. this book claims to be the true story of Bundy. Crime Library has a lengthy discussion on this book: www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/psychology/witness/1.htmlPerhaps I overlooked it, but I am sure I read he did not want his victims to suffer I think you need to read more on him then - Californian has him tagged.
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Post by missy on Jan 27, 2009 18:49:20 GMT -6
Then, I stand corrected..thanx
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Post by Tracy on Jan 28, 2009 20:27:40 GMT -6
I remember watching something on the green river killer and the detectives actually asked bundy his opinion on the guy, bundy told them to "watch" a fresh kill because the killer would likely come back to the body, so yea i think bundy did the same thing:necrophilia, and thats gotta be the sickest thing ever, i cant even comprehend that it actually happens.
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Post by Felix2 on Jan 29, 2009 3:07:17 GMT -6
I remember watching something on the green river killer and the detectives actually asked bundy his opinion on the guy, bundy told them to "watch" a fresh kill because the killer would likely come back to the body, so yea i think bundy did the same thing:necrophilia, and thats gotta be the sickest thing ever, i cant even comprehend that it actually happens. Yeah, very sick, it must feel likie lovemaking with a woman from Newcastle? Ya reckon? ;D
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Post by wrench on Jan 29, 2009 9:58:57 GMT -6
I remember watching something on the green river killer and the detectives actually asked bundy his opinion on the guy, bundy told them to "watch" a fresh kill because the killer would likely come back to the body, so yea i think bundy did the same thing:necrophilia, and thats gotta be the sickest thing ever, i cant even comprehend that it actually happens. yes, i recall bundy said that. and gary ridgeway did return and did nercophilia. one sick bastard. he even wrote a letter to police telling them what to look for.
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