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Post by erickson922 on Mar 21, 2007 20:08:23 GMT -6
alright so i am a Sr. in high school and am giving a speech with a group about the DP. my part is to explain how the DP saves lives. i have looked everywhere for charts backing this up and im having trouble. can anyone help me? please give me all the information you can.
Thanks,
GRADY
ps. i really dont want this to turn into a debate between pros and antis. thanks again everyone!
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Post by erickson922 on Mar 21, 2007 20:38:25 GMT -6
someone please help me... i really need a chart by tonight...
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Post by josephdphillips on Mar 21, 2007 21:12:31 GMT -6
alright so i am a Sr. in high school and am giving a speech with a group about the DP. my part is to explain how the DP saves lives. i have looked everywhere for charts backing this up and im having trouble. can anyone help me? please give me all the information you can. Good luck trying to find that information. I don't think it exists, since it would have to be based on speculation, not fact. |
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Post by Lisa on Mar 21, 2007 21:21:13 GMT -6
alright so i am a Sr. in high school and am giving a speech with a group about the DP. my part is to explain how the DP saves lives. i have looked everywhere for charts backing this up and im having trouble. can anyone help me? please give me all the information you can. Thanks, GRADY ps. i really dont want this to turn into a debate between pros and antis. thanks again everyone! DR is a cellblock in which inmates are housed separately and alone. There are many cases in which an inmate serving Life or LWOP have been placed in the general population and murdered another inmate or prison employee. I can't site any cases but they're out there. You can google to find them, I'm sure. Also, it's much harder to escape from DR. I forget how many (some who had been convicted of murder)escaped from a Texas prison 7 or 8 years ago and murdered a policeman in Irving, TX, I believe. Had they been on DR, I would suggest their escape would have been almost impossible, certainly not as easy as it was in a less secure prison unit. Hope this helps........Lisa |
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Post by Lisa on Mar 21, 2007 21:26:43 GMT -6
Thought of someone else. Kenneth McDuff had a death sentence commuted to life, later was paroled, and went on to murder more women. He was again given the death sentence and was finally executed. You can read about his case on this website. Go to Death Penalty Links...then Texas...and under Executed Offenders scroll down until you come to his name.
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Post by jjkdbarnes on Aug 10, 2007 20:33:35 GMT -6
As a Correctional Officer I can tell you that being on Death Row doesn't always keep a person from killing again. In the 20 + years I have been in Corrections I have seen several murders by death row inmates.
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Post by DeadElvis on Aug 10, 2007 20:44:17 GMT -6
Welcome to the board, guy. I hope you continue posting. Your perspective would be refreshing here. There are some other COs that post here as well.
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Post by Californian on Aug 10, 2007 23:52:31 GMT -6
All you have to do is ask if there was ever a murder by a paroled murderer, or an incarcerated one.
Of course there has been. Now, does it logically follow that if that person had been executed, a murder would have been prevented?
The answer is yes. And you don't need any fancy charts or statistics to prove it, either.
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Post by HANGMAN1981 on Feb 16, 2008 16:21:50 GMT -6
All you have to do is ask if there was ever a murder by a paroled murderer, or an incarcerated one. Of course there has been. Now, does it logically follow that if that person had been executed, a murder would have been prevented? The answer is yes. And you don't need any fancy charts or statistics to prove it, either. It's cut n' dry. Dead murderers are the only safe murderers, so that is proof that the DP saves lives. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2008 7:15:48 GMT -6
One way to create the information you seek is to create a cross section of executed murderers from around the country, then check their records to see how many killing they had committed. For instance, Randy Greenwalt was doing life in Arizona for two killings when he and Gary Tyson escaped, and went on a rampage around the state with three of Gary's son's. The final death toll when they were caught was 12 known victims, and several more suspected. Many times, all we know about these guys is what they admit to, and what the computer tells us of their past. I know of one pre-execution "confession" to a prison chaplain that I suspect was about an unsolved kiling, but the chaplain was bound by his oath, and couldn't reveal anything. Whatever it was, it was so horrific, it changed the chaplain's life for the rest of the time I worked with him. To get back to the subject at hand, knowing the number killings committed prior to execution can help you to speculate on the number of lives saved. As for rehabilitation, I saw a number of CR inmates rehabilitated; we bagged them up and put them in the coroner's wagon.
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Post by magnas74 on Mar 8, 2008 18:30:49 GMT -6
Is the death penalty just a way of disposing of our "Human Trash"? We take criminal and place them all together were their resentment and anger fester, then we wonder why they kill again? Has anybody bothered to see if in any of these cases the criminals were ever given counseling or evaluated? Could it be possible if they were properly evaluated they could have been deemed criminally insane and therefore not eligible for parole. The problem is the system doesn't care who they release they just have to make room for the next set of inmates coming, However, if they just executed every inmate after 3 months like we do stray dogs we wouldn't have any of these problems would we? to answer your Question erickson922 if you go here you can find various sttistcs about the death penalty. www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=167Incliding a the results of a study by the FBI that show \s that states without the death penalty acutally have lower murder rates than states with the death penalty. Turns out if you are not lazy and actually treat criminals like people they tend to value life a bit more and not murder upon release. To |
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