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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2006 20:20:32 GMT -6
i'm a highschool student that needs a quote from an expert for my speech class is there anyone who would be willing to tell me their thoughts about the death penalty and have me quote them in my speech
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Post by imzadi on Dec 5, 2006 7:39:51 GMT -6
i'm a highschool student that needs a quote from an expert for my speech class is there anyone who would be willing to tell me their thoughts about the death penalty and have me quote them in my speech Try Quoting from Helen Prejean - You don't need to ask so long as you acknowledge that it was them (and not you) who said it other wise it's plagiarism
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Post by beej76 on Dec 5, 2006 8:20:28 GMT -6
i'm a highschool student that needs a quote from an expert for my speech class is there anyone who would be willing to tell me their thoughts about the death penalty and have me quote them in my speech Do you have a point you are trying to back up...a message you are trying to send...there's quite a few quotes out there. Just check the last 1000 messages from JoeDPhillips - I'm sure you'll find a few your class will like.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2006 9:25:47 GMT -6
The strengh of a nation can only be measured by the quality of life it offers it people. Its commitment to justice and it's pursuit to safe guard society by the elimination of evil.
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Post by beej76 on Dec 5, 2006 9:55:22 GMT -6
“[My] lack of fear of this barbaric methodology of death, I rely upon my faith. It has nothing to do with machismo, with manhood, or with some pseudo former gang street code. This is pure faith, and predicated on my redemption. So, therefore, I just stand strong and continue to tell you, your audience and the world that I am innocent and, yes, I have been a wretched person, but I have redeemed myself. And I say to you and all those who can listen and will listen that redemption is tailor-made for the wretched, and that's what I used to be….That's what I would like the world to remember me. That's how I would like my legacy to be remembered as: a redemptive transition, something that I believe is not exclusive just for the so-called sanctimonious, the elitists. And it doesn't -- is not predicated on color or race or social stratum or one's religious background. It's accessible for everybody. That's the beauty about it. And whether others choose to believe that I have redeemed myself or not, I worry not, because I know and God knows, and you can believe that all of the youths that I continue to help, they know, too. So with that, I am grateful….I say to you and everyone else, God bless. So take care.†Tookie Williams
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Post by josephdphillips on Dec 5, 2006 10:28:21 GMT -6
Murderers are biowaste.
Try that.
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Post by Wickedlyamoral on Dec 5, 2006 14:02:53 GMT -6
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Post by Lotus Flower on Dec 5, 2006 14:05:02 GMT -6
Are you going for a pro or anti position? Geez, I would be careful quoting a murderer. *bops beej on the head* Of COURSE he's going to be pissed about the death penalty.
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Post by ltdc on Dec 5, 2006 14:37:08 GMT -6
i'm a highschool student that needs a quote from an expert for my speech class is there anyone who would be willing to tell me their thoughts about the death penalty and have me quote them in my speech check the signature lines at the bottom of most posts here. you'll find plenty of quotes
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Post by Rev. Agave on Dec 5, 2006 14:40:17 GMT -6
Here is a good list of quotes borrowed from a post in the Main Board Achieves:
"People don't know me. They think they do, but they don't" --Andrew Cunanan
"I remember, as I gazed down at the still form of my first victim,experiencing a strange and peaceful thrill." --John Reginald Christie
"I had an unspeakable delight in strangling women, experiencing during the act erections and real sexual pleasure. The feeling of pleasure while strangling them was much greater than that which I experienced while masturbating..It never occurred to me to touch or look at the genitals. It satisfied me to seize the women by the neck and suck their blood" --Vincenz Verzeni
"He started messing with the Christmas tree, telling me how nice the Christmas tree was. So I shot him. --David Bullock
"My consuming lust was to experience their bodies.I viewed them as objects, as strangers. It is hard for me to believe a human being could have done what I've done. --Jeffrey Dahmer
"The women I killed were filth-bastard prostitutes who were littering the streets. I was just cleaning up the place a bit" --Peter Sutcliffe
"There is no slack in my act" --Charles Manson
"I sat down to think things over a bit. While I was sitting there, a little kid about eleven or twelve years old came bumming around. He was looking for something. He found it too. I took him out to a gravel pit about one quarter miles away. I left him there, but first committed sodomy on him and then killed him. His brains were coming out of his ears when I left him, and he will never be any deader." --Carl Panzram
"I wish I could stop but I could not. I had no other thrill or happiness." --Dennis Nilsen
"I took her bra and panties off and had sex with her. That's one of those things I guess that got to be a part of my life-having sexual intercourse with the dead" --Henry Lee Lucas
"Wow! What a trip!" --Susan Atkins
"Killing became the same thing as having sex" --Henry Lee Lucas
"Sex is one of my downfalls. I get sex any way I can get it. If I have to force somebody to do it, I do..I rape them; I've done that. I've killed animals to have sex with them, and I've had sex while they're alive." --Henry Lee Lucas
"I am deeply hurt by your calling me a woman hater. I am not. But I am a monster. I am the son of sam. I am a little brat." --David Berkowitz
"Believe me, if I started killing there would be none of you left" --Charles Manson
"You feel the last bit of breath leaving their body. You're looking into their eyes. A person in that situation is God!" --Ted Bundy
"In the case of Ohliger, I also sucked blood from the wound on her temple, and from Scheer from the stab in the neck. From the girl Schulte I only licked the blood from her hands. It was the same with the swan in the Hofgarten. I used to stroll at night through the Hofgarten very often, and in the spring of 1930 I noticed a swan sleeping at the edge of the lake. I cut its throat. The blood spurted up and I drank from the stump and ejaculated." --Peter Kurten
"I opened her breast and with a knife cut through the fleshy parts of the body. Then I arranged the body as a butcher does beef, and hacked it with the axe into pieces.. I may say that while opening the body, I was so greedy that I trembled and could have cut out a piece and eaten it" --Andreas Bichel
Q: "What do you think when you see a pretty girl walking down the street?" A: "One side of me says, 'I'd like to talk to her, date her'. The other side of me says, 'I wonder how her head would look on a stick?" --Edmund Kemper
"Killing is just like walking outdoors, if I wanted a victim I would just go out and get one" --Henry Lee Lucas
"I was born with the devil in me. I could not help the fact that I was a murderer, no more than the poet can help the inspiration to sing..I was born with the evil one standing as my sponsor beside the bed where I was ushered into the world, and he has been with me since." --Dr H.H Holmes
"Every man to his own tastes. Mine is for corpses." --Henri Blot
"Me? I wouldn't hurt no broads. I love broads." --Albert DeSalvo
"I really screw up this time" --Jeffrey Dahmer
"What I did was not for sexual pleasure. Rather it brought me some peace of mind." --Andrei Chikatilo
"The more I looked at people, the more I hated them" --Charles Starkweather
"Even when she was a dead she was still *witch*ing at me. I couldn't get her to shut up!" --Edmund Kemper
"We serial killers are your sons, we are your husbands, we are everywhere. And there will be more of your children dead tomorrow." --Ted Bundy
"I may be a bit peculiar" --George Joseph Smith
"I didn't want to hurt them, I only wanted to kill them" --David Berkowitz
"When someone put their hand on the doorknob, that's it, they are giving me their life" --Edmund Kemper
"I have no desire whatever to reform myself. My only desire is to reform people who try to reform me, and I believe the only way to reform people is to kill'em. My motto: Rob'em all, rape'em all, and kill'em all." --Carl Panzram
"YOU MAGGOTS MAKE ME SICK. I WILL BE AVENGED LUCIFER DWELLS WITHIN ALL OF US!" RICHARD "NIGHT STALKER" RAMIREZ.
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Post by beej76 on Dec 5, 2006 14:47:49 GMT -6
"The women I killed were filth-bastard prostitutes who were littering the streets. I was just cleaning up the place a bit" --Peter Sutcliffe
He'd be a heck of a pro! Not sure what to do with undesirables? Kill 'em!
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Post by Lotus Flower on Dec 5, 2006 18:36:53 GMT -6
"The women I killed were filth-bastard prostitutes who were littering the streets. I was just cleaning up the place a bit" --Peter Sutcliffe He'd be a heck of a pro! Not sure what to do with undesirables? Kill 'em! I wuv ya but you got a - for that. Who sounds bitter and spiteful now?
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Post by beej76 on Dec 7, 2006 13:51:14 GMT -6
"The women I killed were filth-bastard prostitutes who were littering the streets. I was just cleaning up the place a bit" --Peter Sutcliffe He'd be a heck of a pro! Not sure what to do with undesirables? Kill 'em! I wuv ya but you got a - for that. Who sounds bitter and spiteful now? Come on - I could pull, no less than 50 quotes that are pretty much like Peter Sutcliffes! One right in this thread by JoeD - tell me these are much different: "The women I killed were filth-bastard prostitutes who were littering the streets. I was just cleaning up the place a bit..." "Murderers are biowaste..."
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Post by josephdphillips on Dec 7, 2006 14:31:32 GMT -6
"The women I killed were filth-bastard prostitutes who were littering the streets. I was just cleaning up the place a bit..." "Murderers are biowaste..." Lame, Brennan. You're comparing the lives of murderers, who have agreed with the state to die for their crimes, to those of prostitutes, who have not.
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Post by beej76 on Dec 7, 2006 14:35:22 GMT -6
"The women I killed were filth-bastard prostitutes who were littering the streets. I was just cleaning up the place a bit..." "Murderers are biowaste..." Lame, Brennan. You're comparing the lives of murderers, who have agreed with the state to die for their crimes, to those of prostitutes, who have not. No. I'm comparing the lives of two groups of people who committ behavior that is seen by the populace to be contrary to standard behavior in the country. The real difference between the two is the state is deciding that a murderer should die - while the person himself is deciding the prostitute should die. The reasoning is very similar though - for both parties, the end result is death if the person is considered vile enough by the those who can kill (the state kills the yucky killers, the murderer kills the yucky prostitutes).
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Post by josephdphillips on Dec 7, 2006 14:43:19 GMT -6
No. I'm comparing the lives of two groups of people who committ behavior that is seen by the populace to be contrary to standard behavior in the country. The real difference between the two is the state is deciding that a murderer should die - while the person himself is deciding the prostitute should die. The reasoning is very similar though - for both parties, the end result is death if the person is considered vile enough by the those who can kill (the state kills the yucky killers, the murderer kills the yucky prostitutes). OK, but you're not a pacifist. You support the killing of human beings under certain circumstances. I submit most people would find deliberate, malicious murder such a circumstance. Do you disagree?
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Post by Californian on Dec 7, 2006 15:30:37 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2006 15:51:42 GMT -6
"The dead cannot cry out for justice, it's the duty of the living to do so for them." "How can murder be taken seriously, if the penalty isn't equally as serious?" Those are the two that I live by......
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2006 16:09:11 GMT -6
"Indeed, the decision that capital punishment may be the appropriate sanction in extreme cases is an expression of the community's belief that certain crimes are themselves so grievous an affront to humanity that the only adequate response may be the penalty of death."
~ Supreme Court of the United States of America
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Post by beej76 on Dec 7, 2006 16:45:50 GMT -6
No. I'm comparing the lives of two groups of people who committ behavior that is seen by the populace to be contrary to standard behavior in the country. The real difference between the two is the state is deciding that a murderer should die - while the person himself is deciding the prostitute should die. The reasoning is very similar though - for both parties, the end result is death if the person is considered vile enough by the those who can kill (the state kills the yucky killers, the murderer kills the yucky prostitutes). OK, but you're not a pacifist. You support the killing of human beings under certain circumstances. I submit most people would find deliberate, malicious murder such a circumstance. Do you disagree? It's a circumstance that many reasonable people would say deserves death. Many reasonable people say it doesn't deserve death as well. In this case, I believe the murderer is unreasonable, but in his mind, he thinks prostitution is something that deserves death. Lots of people think there's a lot of different actions out there that should equal death. The fact of the matter is, we don't kill murderers. We will murderers that we really dislike for some reason. Much like this guy and the prostitute.
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Post by josephdphillips on Dec 7, 2006 17:08:46 GMT -6
The fact of the matter is, we don't kill murderers. We will murderers that we really dislike for some reason. Much like this guy and the prostitute. That's no fault of the pros here, Brennan. You forget most of us want the death penalty for all murderers.
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Post by shawni on Dec 7, 2006 18:07:00 GMT -6
i'm a highschool student that needs a quote from an expert for my speech class is there anyone who would be willing to tell me their thoughts about the death penalty and have me quote them in my speech Sure I have one for you. THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES FOR EVERY ACTION!!! The DP is not the negative factor in the equation, it is the result of all the factors. Meaning that we all have a choice. If you make the choice to kill then you make the choice to face the consequences for that choice no matter the price.
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Post by shawni on Dec 7, 2006 18:11:37 GMT -6
"The women I killed were filth-bastard prostitutes who were littering the streets. I was just cleaning up the place a bit" --Peter Sutcliffe He'd be a heck of a pro! Not sure what to do with undesirables? Kill 'em! Now beej, I am very disapointed in you for this post.
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Post by shawni on Dec 7, 2006 18:13:08 GMT -6
I wuv ya but you got a - for that. Who sounds bitter and spiteful now? Come on - I could pull, no less than 50 quotes that are pretty much like Peter Sutcliffes! One right in this thread by JoeD - tell me these are much different: "The women I killed were filth-bastard prostitutes who were littering the streets. I was just cleaning up the place a bit..." "Murderers are biowaste..." A prostitute is one thing beej but a killer is a nother and I'm pretty sure you know that.
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Post by beej76 on Dec 8, 2006 8:10:10 GMT -6
Come on - I could pull, no less than 50 quotes that are pretty much like Peter Sutcliffes! One right in this thread by JoeD - tell me these are much different: "The women I killed were filth-bastard prostitutes who were littering the streets. I was just cleaning up the place a bit..." "Murderers are biowaste..." A prostitute is one thing beej but a killer is a nother and I'm pretty sure you know that. I do know, but the reasoning being used by the two people/groups is very similar on why death is justified.
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Post by shawni on Dec 8, 2006 13:49:03 GMT -6
A prostitute is one thing beej but a killer is a nother and I'm pretty sure you know that. I do know, but the reasoning being used by the two people/groups is very similar on why death is justified. No not really. The killer murders for personal reasons. He goes looking for one to hurt and kill in a most evil way. The DP is not personal in that kind of way and it does not go looking for some one to put to death. So the only thing that can really be said to be some what the same is the out come of death. Though the killers death is so much less painful.
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Post by beej76 on Dec 8, 2006 13:53:10 GMT -6
I do know, but the reasoning being used by the two people/groups is very similar on why death is justified. No not really. The killer murders for personal reasons. He goes looking for one to hurt and kill in a most evil way. The DP is not personal in that kind of way and it does not go looking for some one to put to death. So the only thing that can really be said to be some what the same is the out come of death. Though the killers death is so much less painful. But the way the DP is currently applied, there's a bit of "personal reasons" involved - in that, the murderer has to be revolting enough to the jury/judge to get the DP. Not the same thing - I'm just saying the statements are a bit similar.
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Post by shawni on Dec 8, 2006 14:39:24 GMT -6
No not really. The killer murders for personal reasons. He goes looking for one to hurt and kill in a most evil way. The DP is not personal in that kind of way and it does not go looking for some one to put to death. So the only thing that can really be said to be some what the same is the out come of death. Though the killers death is so much less painful. But the way the DP is currently applied, there's a bit of "personal reasons" involved - in that, the murderer has to be revolting enough to the jury/judge to get the DP. Not the same thing - I'm just saying the statements are a bit similar. Revolting? What do you think murder is. It needs no help to be revolting. Not similar at all. She is out working (be it one her back ...lol) but she is not out there to hurt anyone but her self. Though I don't agree with this kind of work it is her choice not mine. But a killer IS out to hurt someone. Its not personal, its the law and justice, it was set up before the killer did the crime. They knew the price of said crime before they ever did it. But knowing the price did not stop them from such evil. You have to have something in you in order to do such a thing, and those with this evil are a danger to one and all. There is nothing personal about it from the law side of it. The law has no emotions. Those that judge it do, but you can never take that out of the mix. Now if you want personal, give the killer to the victims family then you will see true and out right personal justice in most cases any way.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2007 14:19:57 GMT -6
A prostitute is one thing beej but a killer is a nother and I'm pretty sure you know that. I do know, but the reasoning being used by the two people/groups is very similar on why death is justified. No it's not. Just because you want to say it is, does not make it so. Bundy killed brunetts for his sick reasons. Dahmer and Gacey killed young men for there's. Your reasoning would seem to say that if you sell bad fruit at the market, would make you a justified murder victim. Get a better arguement, or just become a prostitute.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2007 14:25:55 GMT -6
Some times I think the only reason some people are against the death penalty is because they are not sure if the are going to murder someone in there future.
Here we have an ANTI that wants to put killing prostitutes in the same class as executing someone for murdering prostitues.
I think you protest to much.
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