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Post by levi on Feb 3, 2008 9:13:11 GMT -6
Criminal Profiling Topic of the Day: An Interesting Argument for the Death Penalty The Federal Bureau of Justice Statistics estimates that by the year 2030, one-third of the prison population will be geriactric. The geezers behind bars are getting sympathy from some folks out there as they visualize the poor old fellahs hobbling around the jail with younger thugs pushing and shoving them around. Some of these men claim they are not receiving proper medical care and forced to do work that they are no longer able to physically handle. My heart doesn't bleed much for these psychopaths as I am sure there hearts weren't bleeding as their victims' hearts were (as they plunged knives through them). For the rest GO HERE: patbrownprofiling.blogspot.com/2008/02/criminal-profiling-topic-of-day.html
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2008 10:55:59 GMT -6
i dont see why you people are wanting to executed these criminals. True they have broken the law and some form of punishment must be forced on them. But giving them the death penalty makes no sense. Honestly what benefit does it gives us to murder those who ofend. There are so many better benefits that we as a society can give than executing them. O and to levi we have to take care of those in the prisions. Even though they are in jail they are still U.S. citizens and have to be given the same health care treatment as they would if they were out in society.
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Post by ichy on Apr 19, 2008 12:00:37 GMT -6
Even though they are in jail they are still U.S. citizens and have to be given the same health care treatment as they would if they were out in society. No they don't. There's no constitutional right to healthcare.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2008 19:51:30 GMT -6
i dont see why you people are wanting to executed these criminals. True they have broken the law and some form of punishment must be forced on them. But giving them the death penalty makes no sense. Honestly what benefit does it gives us to murder those who ofend. There are so many better benefits that we as a society can give than executing them. O and to levi we have to take care of those in the prisions. Even though they are in jail they are still U.S. citizens and have to be given the same health care treatment as they would if they were out in society. What benefit does it give us to execute those who offend? A dead killer has never come back and killed again. How's that for a helluva benefit? Think of all the innocent lives saved by this one kind act for all humanity.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2008 8:34:37 GMT -6
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Post by Charlene on Jul 22, 2008 17:10:16 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2008 20:04:38 GMT -6
i dont see why you people are wanting to executed these criminals. True they have broken the law and some form of punishment must be forced on them. But giving them the death penalty makes no sense. Honestly what benefit does it gives us to murder those who ofend. There are so many better benefits that we as a society can give than executing them. O and to levi we have to take care of those in the prisions. Even though they are in jail they are still U.S. citizens and have to be given the same health care treatment as they would if they were out in society. you are an idiot!! Okay, I may not have been in the best mood when I wrote that. I know there is no way to talk sense to someone who writes things like this stuff above. I'm happy for you to be able to live in such bliss!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2008 9:44:01 GMT -6
Thought I'd throw up my blog... killingstate.blogspot.com/I'm not too consistent with updates but I try my best! It is largely Australian focused but it also includes some general observations about the death penalty.
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Post by Charlene on Aug 12, 2008 21:02:43 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2008 14:45:40 GMT -6
new to this site, everything that i have read have touch me closely and make me believe in the dp more. i don't have any story to talk about or have anyone in my fanily or friend had been murder. But i know that anyone that can kill someone in an inhuman way need the dp. i need to know more about the dp, and johndgrat i do think that you are right there do need more dp supporters
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2008 7:54:28 GMT -6
i dont see why you people are wanting to executed these criminals. True they have broken the law and some form of punishment must be forced on them. But giving them the death penalty makes no sense. Honestly what benefit does it gives us to murder those who ofend. There are so many better benefits that we as a society can give than executing them. O and to levi we have to take care of those in the prisions. Even though they are in jail they are still U.S. citizens and have to be given the same health care treatment as they would if they were out in society. actually, I am a mvs and I have NO healthcare! I do not support the DP out of revenge. I support the DP so that these people who inhumanely murdered the people that I loved will not ever be able to put other families through what mine is going through now. I fear that if they get LWOP, then they will escape and do it again.
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Post by Californian on Sept 15, 2008 8:23:42 GMT -6
i dont see why you people are wanting to executed these criminals. True they have broken the law and some form of punishment must be forced on them. But giving them the death penalty makes no sense. Honestly what benefit does it gives us to murder those who ofend. There are so many better benefits that we as a society can give than executing them. O and to levi we have to take care of those in the prisions. Even though they are in jail they are still U.S. citizens and have to be given the same health care treatment as they would if they were out in society. Your attitude is precisely why if the DP goes away LWOP will be your next target. Just look at the sympathy expressed by your posse for Susan Atkins, a vicious multiple murderer dying of cancer in California. Despite her skating out of the DP, some (if not most) of you propose that she be released from prison instead of die there, as she should have four decades ago. Compassion is a good thing. Disregarding the safety of the large majority of our citizens is not. As to their health problems, the DP would have cured them all.
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Post by Tracy on Sept 28, 2008 18:09:05 GMT -6
sh*t i screwed up the link, im sure u get the picture but here its easier just to click here, i know many of you would appreciate this site ALOT.....www.lostinlimaohio.blogspot.com
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2009 11:01:46 GMT -6
A book that I am reading deals with the death penalty and the foundational reasons for why the death penalty can be justified morally and legally. The title is “Death Penalty on Trial: Taking a Life for a Life Taken”, by Dr. Ron Gleason. If you have opportunity to read this book I would be interested in your opinion. I guess a book is sort of like a long blog message. You can find it here: www.SendMeThatBook.com.
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Post by leopard32 on Jun 8, 2009 5:37:01 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2009 2:36:30 GMT -6
Hi,
The Council of Europe is organizing an anti-death penalty day on 10 October. It wants people to send questions on the issue. They will be answered by the organization's experts and anti-death penalty lawyer Clive Stafford-Smith.
Death penalty supporters can send in their questions too to show why there is support, particularly in the US.
Send questions to : campaigns@coe.int
See Twitter: #AntiDeathPenalty
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2010 13:08:04 GMT -6
Giving these scum bags a platform to air there self centred, it was not my fault, my mum did not tuck me up in bed on a night so i had to go out and kill and rape is just plain sick
I have read a number of them and not once have i read any of them take responsibility for the act that landed them in the situation they find themselves in
The people who ghost write for these scumbags are just plain nutty, in fact if it was not so serious it might be funny, but i guess everyone wants there 15 minutes of fame
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Post by arizonavet on Dec 22, 2010 14:45:45 GMT -6
...I would like to take a stab at the LWOP argument. It seems to me that it isn't enough to say that the people of California could have simply chosen to keep a killer like Tookie locked up forever. Getting rid of the death penalty means that we have to also consider the foreseeable consequences of guaranteeing criminals that they can kill as many innocent people as they want, for whatever reason at all, without even facing the theoretical possibility of placing their own lives at risk... www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/005937.phpCharlene...I don't hear from you enough...honestly, we seem to have a simular reason for being pro-dp...protection of the innocent. You're personally invited to post your reasons for being pro-dp on my "Fess up" thread
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Post by HANGMAN1981 on Jan 7, 2011 0:32:31 GMT -6
Now, before anyone gets the idea I’m a bleeding-heart liberal, I wish to state that the absolute BEST deterrent to crime is where the would-be perp gets carried out feet-first in a body-bag after his/her unsuccessful attempt against the would-be victim. That’s why I am 100% IN FAVOR of the right to keep & bear arms—i.e. for people to be able to carry concealed weapons, ESPECIALLY firearms! However, all too many times, the enforcers of the death penalty have royally Foxtrot-Uniform-Charlie-Kilo-Echo-Deltaed it up. Here’s an article that spells out in detail just HOW they did in one case in Arizona: www.phoenixnewtimes.com/Issues/2005-04-21/news/feature_print.htmlAnd here’s a goodie: Joyce Gilchrist AKA “Black Magic”, did, over the years, commit perjury in many criminal-court trials. Here’s a few hyperlinks to check out! www.law-forensic.com/gilchrist_3.htm and www.law-forensic.com/cfr_gilchrist_6.htm and then there’s www.law-forensic.com/cfr_gilchrist_1.htm as well. She is not the ONLY “expert” to commit perjury, either. In fact, it’s CONFIRMED that this kind of Sierra Hotel India Tango has happened elsewhere—in the great State of New York, for example: here’s an example of how New York State Troopers FAKED fingerprint evidence in murder cases! www.law-forensic.com/cfr_fab_fp_3.htmSo now we come to the question: “What would have happened if the State HAD killed this man for a crime he DID NOT commit?” “Oh, what a tragedy—we’re all SO Sorry!” would be the Bravo-Sierra response. Well, I know how to make these bastards who have committed judicial murder (which, in my opinion, the killing of an innocent person by agents of the State in the name of the Law actually is) REALLY sorry! Once it has been proven BEYOND ANY DOUBT AT ALL that these agents of the State have killed someone who DID NOT DO what they killed him/her for, THEY die! And no, NOT by the gallows, gas chamber, “The Chair” or “the needle”; no, what they get is a last cigarette (if they smoke), a blindfold, and then get stood up against any convenient wall and are then SHOT by firing squad of their peers! That includes the arresting officers, various expert witnesses testifying for the State, the prosecutor and the judge, the jury, and the executioner(s). All of them have the blood of an innocent person on their hands, and are thus judicial murderers—they used the judicial process to murder an innocent person in The Name Of The Law, so they, I believe, should forfeit their lives! Said peers to be chosen by random selection, and if any of these peers suddenly develop conscientious-objector status and REFUSE the order, they GET SHOT WHERE THEY STAND! Now THAT will make the judicial-murdering bastards REALLY sorry! I am not opposed to the death penalty IN PRINCIPLE, but I really DO wonder if some people get killed for something they DIDN’T do after all. After all, it nearly happened at least once in the State of Arizona—and that is solidly documented legal fact! Also, it has also very likely happened in Oklahoma, thanks to “Black Magic” Joyce Gilchrist. Keep THAT in mind. People! As I said, the ABSOLUTE BEST WAY to deter crime is to make CERTAIN the criminal dies in the failed attempt—i.e. kill the scumbag before he/she can kill YOU! Don't convict innocent people.
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Post by Potassium_Pixie on Feb 15, 2012 10:16:15 GMT -6
Sometimes its hard not to convict innocent people. Although we do get it right most of the time, it terrifies me to think that innocents are executed because we get the wrong perpetrator. Though not bad enough that I'm an opponent of CP.
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Post by whitediamonds on Feb 15, 2012 10:44:53 GMT -6
Sometimes its hard not to convict innocent people. Although we do get it right most of the time, it terrifies me to think that innocents are executed because we get the wrong perpetrator. Though not bad enough that I'm an opponent of CP. I agree, then compare to the long ( thousands) of the victims murdered.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 17:29:43 GMT -6
Hi all, I'm new to this blog. I am a registered Independent voter, and a huge proponent of the DP in cases of 1st-degree murder, and LWOP for 2nd- and 3rd-degree murder, depending on the circumstances of each case. The main reason I am so pro DP is because prison isn't harsh enough...evidenced by the multitude of pleasurable activities convicted 1st-degree murder inmates are given--TV, books, weight-lifting (so when they get out they're even more of a threat!), freedom of association (joining gangs), visits by family & friends, mail, conjugal visits, the right to marry, publicity and notoriety from TV interviews (Manson and MSNBC's "Lockup", and time off for "good behavior," to name a few. Prison isn't supposed to be "comfortable" or even vaguely tolerable...food, water, and shelter only. Prison was originally intended to be a place so miserable, so terrible to be in, but was one small step from away from dying...the last place on earth in which one would want to be.
There are far too many privileges and conveniences that inmates enjoy. Some inmates even prefer prison because they aren't homeless, don't have to get a job, they get 3 meals a day, hang out with friends, and enjoy a great workout program. Those conveniences and types of prisons should only be for non-violent felons, not murderers, and the asinine notion of "time off sentences for good-behavior" should be abolished immediately...if they can't behave in prison they don't deserve to get out, and should have 10 years added for each incident of bad behavior, i.e. initiating fights or participating in attacks on other inmates or prison staff. My theory behind that is, if they can't behave in prison, there's no reason to believe they'll behave outside of prison. Duh.
We also need, in this country, to have an expedited death penalty for those who are 100% guilty and whose guilt is without question and the evidence is incontrovertible...those like Jared Loughner (Gabby Giffords shooter), James Holmes (Aurora, CO movie theater murderer), and Adam Lanza (Newtown, CT), if he hadn't killed himself. If we could have a judge sentence them to death and execute them within 30 or 60 days, there might actually produce a "deterrent effect". I would like there to be a deterrent effect, but my main goal is to see brutal murderers executed so we don't have to spend good tax dollars warehousing the most inhumane among us. Inhumane people do not deserve the benefit of, nor do they appreciate, the benefit of humane treatment.
In this massive overhaul of our justice system, we also need to have a system that has severe accountability, in the form of prison time, for judges, prosecutors, police, and victims/witnesses who knowingly conspire to charge, prosecute, and convict an innocent person.
I'm also bothered by the fact that, nowhere in the debate over gun-control, has the death penalty been part of the discussion. There should be peaceful protests in the streets and on the mall in D.C. sending a clarion call for justice to the White House and Congress that enough really is enough. In this current climate of politically charged debate, the misguided, anti-DP folks would look ridiculous advocating for mercy for the most evil among us. The time to resuscitate the pro-DP movement is NOW.
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Post by Potassium_Pixie on Mar 5, 2013 1:22:51 GMT -6
Speaking of James Holmes, does anybody know if they are gonna go for the death penalty? The last execution of Gary Lee Davis was 16 years ago, and he gave up his appeals.
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Post by misty on Apr 6, 2015 8:43:24 GMT -6
Death Penalty is the way to go IMHO
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Post by bernard on Apr 12, 2015 12:51:22 GMT -6
Death Penalty is the way to go IMHO Is that how you'd like to go?
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Post by whitediamonds on Apr 12, 2015 13:18:02 GMT -6
This is an old thread.
Personally, I would rather be executed by LI or the firing squad than the way the actual victims are murdered.
Of course" I could never commit the crime/crimes it takes to reach the DP to begin with.
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Post by bernard on Apr 12, 2015 23:05:05 GMT -6
This is an old thread. Personally, I would rather be executed by LI or the firing squad than the way the actual victims are murdered. Of course" I could never commit the crime/crimes it takes to reach the DP to begin with. That doesn't matter. Even if you are innocent, you could still end up juiced.
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Post by whitediamonds on Apr 13, 2015 9:29:00 GMT -6
This is an old thread. Personally, I would rather be executed by LI or the firing squad than the way the actual victims are murdered. Of course" I could never commit the crime/crimes it takes to reach the DP to begin with. That doesn't matter. Even if you are innocent, you could still end up juiced. Still may end up an easier way out compared to some natural deaths....The innocent alledged to " have been executed", go back 20 to thirty & more yrs ago.
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